Here is what I don't get, its cheaper to text a safcom line from a zain line than it is to do so from a Safcom line, further, it costs the same (for prepaid users) to call safcom, why are people still on Safaricom? I just don't get it... On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Ken Simiyu <kensimiyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember as well, they dont want to encourage u to keep using the feature on a regular basis. That is why they make it expensive to you by taking the 10%, restricting the deal to once a week and barring cross-network use. Much as it sounds like a steal, when u r in an emergency situation, it will be a godsend. And as someone mentioned on the thread, it is not forced on u. So, when taking the cruise, u have to take with it the threat of high sea piracy and icebergs.
On 4/18/09, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys i dont see a problem with what Safaricom is doing since ther are not a charity, you are not being forced to take the loan, what i can see are Consumer perspectives.I am sure lot of research was done to arrive at the kind of economic model they are using, in any case i find the solution to be innovative and usefull based on my nature of work. Allow me to borrow from Gakuru avoid credit if you can coz it pinches at payback time
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
I agree with Thuo, Safaricom is not in the business of loaning money, but they can reduce their 'risk' to nil (or close to nil) if they keep the loaned calls strictly within their network. Why? well, because it is like taking money from one account at safaricom to another account at safaricom. In case 1 million people default, safaricom will simply have a hole on paper but not in real life. However, if the borrowers called Zain lines and then defaulted, the hole in safaricom's books would be real because they would actually receive an invoice from Zain,.. they would pay for this with real money..thus be exposed.
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 18:28 +0300, Gakuru Alex wrote:
What I meant was that the Japanese culture discourages living on credit. Yes, we could turn CCK into our punching bag fro everything gone sour in ICT, but, we have a duty NOT to accept any 'unnecessary' no matter how tempting loans. It traps populations into debt cycles
Soft read: -- "Dr Williams warned the House of Lords that the poorest people were trapped in a cycle of borrowing.
During a Lords debate tabled by Dr Williams, he also called for tighter controls on credit firms.
He said the children of low-income families were caught in a "particularly toxic version of the poverty trap" <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7366306.stm> --
Hard read:
"THE ROLE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE IN DEVELOPING BANKRUPTCY AND INSOLVENCY SYSTEMS: THE PERILS OF LEGAL TRANSPLANTATION" ( read 'Global Financial Crisis')
<
http://www.bc.edu/schools/law/lawreviews/meta-elements/journals/bciclr/28_1/...
Cheers,
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:44 PM, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com>
wrote:
$afcom seems to be employing some gambling rules these days or those casino things. They excite you then you fall for the deal then they inform you 'you've been charged....' Their promotions these days are not purely to cement user loyalty like before. like Lipua mamilioni, you become exited and dam& 3.50 bob gone. Its not much but.... I first felt cheated so cheated but i now understand their game. next it might be ;please call me' and the rest Ibibe Systems We believe so we can
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Paul Mathu <mails.mathu@gmail.com> wrote:
Its beats the logic controlling who i call, In case of a bank
loan, who
cares whether go on a holiday or wateva! i just have to ensure i repay.. same here, it does not matter who i call!
On 4/17/09, imelda Mueni <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote: > > dont we kenya,s complain so much > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Alex Nderitu < nderitualex@gmail.com
> wrote: >> >> They call it playing safe. We are peculiar remember. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ken Teyie <kenteyie@gmail.com> >> Reply-to: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >> >> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safcom credit credit >> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:36:47 +0300 >> >> ha ha ha why would you throw away a line you've used for over "12 >> months" just because you owe Safaricom a 50bob! >> That is just a gimmick to make guys spend more money on the >> network. >> It is easy money for Safaricom. CCK should come in! >> >> On 4/17/09, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com> wrote: >> > When you call someone on another network, it means they will pay the >> > interconnection charges for you and who knows you may decide to throw >> > away the line. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> >> > Reply-to: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >> > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > Subject: [Skunkworks] Safcom credit credit >> > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:27:04 +0300 >> > >> > Safcom charges a whole 5 bob when u 'request' for that 50 bob >> > emergency credit. Well, at that point safcom is doing me a favour so i >> > think they have the right (but a whole 10%?!). >> > >> > Anyway, my beef is, why do they have to control who I call? Its >> > my >> > damn money now! In any case, being an emergency, i should be able to >> > call anyone! >> > >> > CCK guys, do i have an argument here? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > Other lists >> > ------------- >> > Skunkworks announce: >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > >> > >> > -- >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> > believed to be clean. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > Other lists >> > ------------- >> > Skunkworks announce: >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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