Dear Members, Kindly post your comments under the discussion area, so far only McTim and Onsakia have commented, does it mean we haven't read? Feel free to also comment on what has been discussed, as mentioned in an earlier email it might not be ideal too comment on the document as requested by McTim, we can leave that to Grace to incorporate the changes let us point out the sections and the changes we desire. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
Dear All, Please note that there are some "small" things that need your input. For example, a) How much should annual subscription be for members? b) Where should the registered office be? There was a suggestion earlier to have it at KENIC offices but members need to give more views on this and probably nominate someone such as Barrack to go ahead and make the request to KENIC. This is what I can think of for now. Please give your comments. Regards, Grace 2011/12/7 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Dear Members,
Kindly post your comments under the discussion area, so far only McTim and Onsakia have commented, does it mean we haven't read? Feel free to also comment on what has been discussed, as mentioned in an earlier email it might not be ideal too comment on the document as requested by McTim, we can leave that to Grace to incorporate the changes let us point out the sections and the changes we desire.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
Thats right Grace, i had explained in our last meeting the supporting role that KeNIC had played so far but we need to make a formal request as members for the organisation to consider, in my mind i was thinking about management of resources and a base for coordinating ISOCs outreach and Capacity building activities. Again as Grace said, let us comment, having the right structures from the onset is really critical. Best Regards On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All, Please note that there are some "small" things that need your input. For example, a) How much should annual subscription be for members? b) Where should the registered office be? There was a suggestion earlier to have it at KENIC offices but members need to give more views on this and probably nominate someone such as Barrack to go ahead and make the request to KENIC.
This is what I can think of for now. Please give your comments.
Regards, Grace
2011/12/7 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Dear Members,
Kindly post your comments under the discussion area, so far only McTim and Onsakia have commented, does it mean we haven't read? Feel free to also comment on what has been discussed, as mentioned in an earlier email it might not be ideal too comment on the document as requested by McTim, we can leave that to Grace to incorporate the changes let us point out the sections and the changes we desire.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
Dear all,I feel we can put annual subscription to be USD 10 and office space at kenic is ok with me . --------------------------------------------------------------------- Imagination is more important than knowledge--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- On Tue, 12/6/11, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] By Laws To: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 11:45 PM Dear All, Please note that there are some "small" things that need your input. For example, a) How much should annual subscription be for members? b) Where should the registered office be? There was a suggestion earlier to have it at KENIC offices but members need to give more views on this and probably nominate someone such as Barrack to go ahead and make the request to KENIC. This is what I can think of for now. Please give your comments. Regards, Grace 2011/12/7 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Dear Members, Kindly post your comments under the discussion area, so far only McTim and Onsakia have commented, does it mean we haven't read? Feel free to also comment on what has been discussed, as mentioned in an earlier email it might not be ideal too comment on the document as requested by McTim, we can leave that to Grace to incorporate the changes let us point out the sections and the changes we desire. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu) -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Good idea Daniel. Best Regards On 12/9/11, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear all,I feel we can put annual subscription to be USD 10 and office space at kenic is ok with me .
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Imagination is more important than knowledge---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- On Tue, 12/6/11, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] By Laws To: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 11:45 PM
Dear All, Please note that there are some "small" things that need your input. For example, a) How much should annual subscription be for members? b) Where should the registered office be? There was a suggestion earlier to have it at KENIC offices but members need to give more views on this and probably nominate someone such as Barrack to go ahead and make the request to KENIC.
This is what I can think of for now. Please give your comments.
Regards, Grace
2011/12/7 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Dear Members,
Kindly post your comments under the discussion area, so far only McTim
and Onsakia have commented, does it mean we haven't read? Feel free to
also comment on what has been discussed, as mentioned in an earlier
email it might not be ideal too comment on the document as requested
by McTim, we can leave that to Grace to incorporate the changes let us
point out the sections and the changes we desire.
Best Regards
--
Barrack O. Otieno
+254721325277
+254-20-2498789
Skype: barrack.otieno
_______________________________________________
isoc mailing list
isoc@lists.my.co.ke
http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
-----Inline Attachment Follows-----
_______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno
10 USD is about Ksh. 800-1000. Per year, I think thats ok, hoping that even students who may join us will be able to pay up. But we have to specify in Kshs for clarity. I also agree with asking KENIC to be the registered office of ISOC-KE and nominate Barrack to officially make the request. Grace. 2011/12/9 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Good idea Daniel.
Best Regards
On 12/9/11, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear all,I feel we can put annual subscription to be USD 10 and office space at kenic is ok with me .
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Imagination is more important than
knowledge---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- On Tue, 12/6/11, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] By Laws To: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 11:45 PM
Dear All, Please note that there are some "small" things that need your input. For example, a) How much should annual subscription be for members? b) Where should the registered office be? There was a suggestion earlier
to
have it at KENIC offices but members need to give more views on this and probably nominate someone such as Barrack to go ahead and make the request to KENIC.
This is what I can think of for now. Please give your comments.
Regards, Grace
2011/12/7 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Dear Members,
Kindly post your comments under the discussion area, so far only McTim
and Onsakia have commented, does it mean we haven't read? Feel free to
also comment on what has been discussed, as mentioned in an earlier
email it might not be ideal too comment on the document as requested
by McTim, we can leave that to Grace to incorporate the changes let us
point out the sections and the changes we desire.
Best Regards
--
Barrack O. Otieno
+254721325277
+254-20-2498789
Skype: barrack.otieno
_______________________________________________
isoc mailing list
isoc@lists.my.co.ke
http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
-----Inline Attachment Follows-----
_______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Sent from my mobile device
Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
-- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)
Dear Barrack and all, Here are my comments (mainly on grammar and wording) regarding the draft By-laws document. Objects: 1. Section 3 clause 2: I think each clause should begin with a capital letter. 2. Also on Section 3 clause 2c should read: "To promote development of THE Internet in Kenya through, among others, trainings and public education; " INSTEAD of "To promote development of Internet in Kenya through, among others, trainings and public education;" 3. Section 3 clause 2e: Would it be more appropriate if the clause read: "To work together with other Kenyan and International bodies with similar objects." [omit the from the sentence]. Membership: Concerning membership fees you can deliberate on the amount. Hope it would not be excessive as some members are students, interns and job-seekers for whom the membership may be dear. Rights: You can insert the following right/prerogative (you can reword it): - To participate and engage in any activities or projects laid out by the Society's committees. Duties: The following obligation can be included: - To promote ISOC's vision of the Internet is for everyone Cessation of Membership In clause 7c: The wording 'any cause' is too far reaching and some causes may be frivolous. Please spell out some of the causes for which a member can be expelled from the Society. Reinstatement of Membership Clause 8(1): Indicate which Article a member may apply for reinstatement in writing to the Membership Committee. The clause is 'hanging' it reads: " A person whose membership had ceased as provided for in Article 9 may apply in writing to the Membership Committee provided for in Article for [sic]" Board of Trustees Under Clause 3 Capitalise the beginning of each clause. Clause 5: The Board shall elect a "Director". I don't see why Director should be quoted. Omit the quotes. Clause 6: This may seem trivial the spelling of 'Offense'- Should we use the British Spelling i.e. Offence Secretary Clause 13 (g): Duties of the Secretary. The Secretary shall: - Submit of any proposed amendment … Can it read: Submit any proposed amendment (Omit of from the clause). - Also noted under the duties of the Treasurer: "Carry out any other duties incidental to this office." - Would it be appropriate to enumerate some of these incidental duties? Membership Committee Clause 16 is also a 'hanging' clause as last part of the clause does not specify which particular Article reinstatement of members can take place. " The Committee shall advice on questions of quorum and membership as well as reinstatement of members as provided for in Article [sic] " Funds The fiscal date and year indicated is pretty vague it reads: July 1st June 30th of each year. Could be reworded " The fiscal year of the Society shall be from July 1st of the current year to June 30th of the following year". Dissolution Should the society be dissolved its assets shall be transferred to the global ISOC. This is a pretty hefty clause. Does the global ISOC require the the transference of assets when a chapter dissolves? If so, which assets would be targeted in the event of a dissolution?
participants (4)
-
Barrack Otieno -
Daniel Otieno Omondi -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Paul M