Safaricom featuring Money Matters
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic). I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable. Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces. Kiania On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
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Amen! On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
wrote:
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What annoys me much about journalists is that they present things they think the audience want to listen to or watch - they assume something is worth repeating a thousand times if they themselves are obsessed with it. A different angle to this but somehow this 'culture' is also creeping in on service providers in this case Internet & mobile. Is it asking too much if a market survey is done to 'check' what is currently trending before airing what 'we' think is currently trending? or I might be wrong with this and if I am, then I'll continue watching my episodes of Californication rather than regular TV. ./Ok3ch On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Martin G. Kamau <gachunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Amen!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that is a true mix up, heck, they would have edited that to become Paypal too _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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He who pays the piper....... My 2Cts..... On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
What annoys me much about journalists is that they present things they think the audience want to listen to or watch - they assume something is worth repeating a thousand times if they themselves are obsessed with it. A different angle to this but somehow this 'culture' is also creeping in on service providers in this case Internet & mobile. Is it asking too much if a market survey is done to 'check' what is currently trending before airing what 'we' think is currently trending? or I might be wrong with this and if I am, then I'll continue watching my episodes of Californication rather than regular TV.
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Martin G. Kamau <gachunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Amen!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com>
wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com
wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Yeah, Do these journalists get paid heavy commissions to cover the obvious people or what. Cover companies like Elimu. It is an IT company Larry if you did not know. Skunkers please suggest companies that are making a difference to journalists so they can have work to do this year. OK? Good Friday.
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that is a �true mix up, heck, they would have edited that to become Paypal too _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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From experience I know people are incentivized to make prominent particular stories and I remember one time we were offered 10k to highlight the speech of a particular bank chairman and when we got back to the newsroom the Editor in Chief took over and "cut" the news story himself, according to spec.
The clamour for eyeballs and favourable at that is lucrative and this is enhanced by freebies from exclusive invitation to company launches, merchandise, to treats, special discounts etc. Do an informal survey over the weekend find out how many time particular words such as Safaricom are mentioned in news items across all media. I hope that Larry et al are above this, being in the seating rooms of so many comes with it's browning points. Kiania D. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:46 AM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
Yeah,
Do these journalists get paid heavy commissions to cover the obvious people or what.
Cover companies like Elimu. It is an IT company Larry if you did not know.
Skunkers please suggest companies that are making a difference to journalists so they can have work to do this year. OK?
Good Friday.
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that is a true mix up, heck, they would have edited that to become Paypal too _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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check this out ... it was on citizen news last nite totally unbelievable. Screenshot provided ReelForge Media Monitoring by (http://www.reelforge.com/reelforge/index.php) On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
From experience I know people are incentivized to make prominent particular stories and I remember one time we were offered 10k to highlight the speech of a particular bank chairman and when we got back to the newsroom the Editor in Chief took over and "cut" the news story himself, according to spec.
The clamour for eyeballs and favourable at that is lucrative and this is enhanced by freebies from exclusive invitation to company launches, merchandise, to treats, special discounts etc. Do an informal survey over the weekend find out how many time particular words such as Safaricom are mentioned in news items across all media.
I hope that Larry et al are above this, being in the seating rooms of so many comes with it's browning points.
Kiania D.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:46 AM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
Yeah,
Do these journalists get paid heavy commissions to cover the obvious people or what.
Cover companies like Elimu. It is an IT company Larry if you did not know.
Skunkers please suggest companies that are making a difference to journalists so they can have work to do this year. OK?
Good Friday.
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Also saw it last night and I was wondering what kind of access controls these chaps have...an absolute lack of professionalism!
Guys, "These journalists get paid heavy commissions to cover the obvious people or what.' I had to laugh at that and I don't think am gonna justify it with a response. Having said that, I don't think our whole Money Matters show yesterday was featuring Safaricom. Our interview with Michael Joseph was shot last Friday and we intended to have a different story on the Technology segment but decided to do the Huawei one because it is the cheapest Android phone to hit the market and would be of more interest to our viewers. Having looked at the responses on our SMS, email and on social media, it was in fact a big hit. Both the MJ interview and the Huawei piece got overwhelming responses, with our piece on jewellery entrepreneurs coming in third. One of my media classes taught that media is a reflection of society. We give Safaricom loads of coverage because it is an interesting story but also because the people demand it. A lot of the content I have on my shows and stories are viewer driven, based on feedback and suggestions I get from social media outlets and conversations I have with our viewers. A colleague of mine just told me something about the MJ interview which I should share with you. As a society, we should question ourself why we have allowed ourselves to glorify the Michael Josephs of this world instead of creating our own homegrown ones. Also, Michael Joseph makes great TV because he gives good sound bites and calls it as it is, which is rare in corporate Kenya. I am one of the few journalists who shines a spotlight on more unknown and often forgotten subjects and people and claiming that I am obsessed with any particular company is completely without merit. Any casual glance at my Twitter timeline or my Facebook posts reveals a very wide selection of stories and interviews beyond any supposed traditional favourites. Having said that, I welcome any suggestions for stories, or interviews and at the end of the show we provide our contacts and call for our viewers to get in touch. Whenever possible, we take their views into account and deliver on what they want. I must distance myself from any allegations of impropriety on my part. I am a straightforward person who does not accept any gifts - material or otherwise - in exchange for coverage. And finally, thanks for watching, and keep watching. LARRY On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:46 AM, <sospeter@elimu.co.ke> wrote:
Yeah,
Do these journalists get paid heavy commissions to cover the obvious people or what.
Cover companies like Elimu. It is an IT company Larry if you did not know.
Skunkers please suggest companies that are making a difference to journalists so they can have work to do this year. OK?
Good Friday.
I have just watched Money Matters hosted by Larry and it's amazing how a whole program was featuring Safaricom. For starters I have never understood the media's obsession with Michael Joseph and the unending romance follows him post "retirement" (sic).
I have worked in a media's business desk and I know that there are plenty of business stories but the journalists/reporters don't want to go after difficult stories which is very inexplicable.
Cmon dude we can do better than this. We need much less Safaricom stories in our faces.
Kiania
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
Good people, As a tech journalist myself at NMG, I must say I read the piece with shock. I am not sure if it was a mistake in sub-editing because the piece's writer Mark Okuttah knows his tech quite well. All the same, despite the similarities in the name, it is unacceptable to make a mistake like that. It is just a major faux pas. At least the online version has been cleared of all the confusions but the print version is immortalized for all history; mistakes and all. I must however take great exception to Peter's derogatory statement about tech writers at NMG because they are arguably some of the best in the business, and some are even on this list. Regards
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
When I grow up I want to be a tech writer at NMG!
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that is a true mix up, heck, they would have edited that to become Paypal too _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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