In 20 years there has not been a single successful corruption case tried in Kenya, with a conviction. The so called '4th Estate' is itself soaked in corruption, stories and features are done on the basis of bribes and dishing out of favours. Truth be told we have no help in the current set of institutions and unless we look at new means and tools we'll be discussing corruption and depleted resources, with no excuse why we did nothing. Hilary Clinton did make a very interesting remark, young people (the real stakeholders of the future) must use tools like twitter to report, and highlight corruption in real-time. Whereas am not big in tweets, can we harness 'ushahidi-like' tools to deal with graft? Initially it has to be name and shame but in the longterm it'll have to be actionable. I will not claim to have the solution but can we mash-up ideas and see what we can do about it. I am so tired of talk-shows and I have participated in them and tele is full of them. Can we DO something tangible? What say you? Kiania -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
Funny - while watching her speech i was thinking along such lines... Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com * SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. * Get a .ke @ 2900/- a year VAT incl. @ pct.co.ke On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:54 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
In 20 years there has not been a single successful corruption case tried in Kenya, with a conviction. The so called '4th Estate' is itself soaked in corruption, stories and features are done on the basis of bribes and dishing out of favours. Truth be told we have no help in the current set of institutions and unless we look at new means and tools we'll be discussing corruption and depleted resources, with no excuse why we did nothing.
Hilary Clinton did make a very interesting remark, young people (the real stakeholders of the future) must use tools like twitter to report, and highlight corruption in real-time. Whereas am not big in tweets, can we harness 'ushahidi-like' tools to deal with graft? Initially it has to be name and shame but in the longterm it'll have to be actionable.
I will not claim to have the solution but can we mash-up ideas and see what we can do about it. I am so tired of talk-shows and I have participated in them and tele is full of them. Can we DO something tangible?
What say you?
Kiania
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[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
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-Richest Man in Babylon
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And then there was that time, at the lecture @ UoN, when near the end of the Q&A session, she asked if there was a website where the questions could be posted... For some reason, I felt embarassed that no one had thought of setting up a website where the questions could have been posted beforehand and/or during the talk. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
Funny - while watching her speech i was thinking along such lines... Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:54 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
In 20 years there has not been a single successful corruption case tried in Kenya, with a conviction. The so called '4th Estate' is itself soaked in corruption, stories and features are done on the basis of bribes and dishing out of favours. Truth be told we have no help in the current set of institutions and unless we look at new means and tools we'll be discussing corruption and depleted resources, with no excuse why we did nothing.
Hilary Clinton did make a very interesting remark, young people (the real stakeholders of the future) must use tools like twitter to report, and highlight corruption in real-time. Whereas am not big in tweets, can we harness 'ushahidi-like' tools to deal with graft? Initially it has to be name and shame but in the longterm it'll have to be actionable.
I will not claim to have the solution but can we mash-up ideas and see what we can do about it. I am so tired of talk-shows and I have participated in them and tele is full of them. Can we DO something tangible?
What say you?
Kiania
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
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Strange... I've been thinking of this same issue. Personally labelled it as the three body problem - gov, media, people. We are all stuck in a loop ; much like a bad record. The politicians/govt do something outrageous, the media publishes it, the people greedily glob it all. Essentially, the three bodies need each other cyclically, The media need - the people to buy - the govt to produce outrageous policies - the people to act outrageously The politicians need - the media for self aggrandisement. - the people for recognition The people suck it all in placidly. We need to break this cycle using any possible means since it will not end well. I don't know how we will do it since the rot is everywhere! On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
And then there was that time, at the lecture @ UoN, when near the end of the Q&A session, she asked if there was a website where the questions could be posted...
For some reason, I felt embarassed that no one had thought of setting up a website where the questions could have been posted beforehand and/or during the talk.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>wrote:
Funny - while watching her speech i was thinking along such lines... Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:54 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
In 20 years there has not been a single successful corruption case tried in Kenya, with a conviction. The so called '4th Estate' is itself soaked in corruption, stories and features are done on the basis of bribes and dishing out of favours. Truth be told we have no help in the current set of institutions and unless we look at new means and tools we'll be discussing corruption and depleted resources, with no excuse why we did nothing.
Hilary Clinton did make a very interesting remark, young people (the real stakeholders of the future) must use tools like twitter to report, and highlight corruption in real-time. Whereas am not big in tweets, can we harness 'ushahidi-like' tools to deal with graft? Initially it has to be name and shame but in the longterm it'll have to be actionable.
I will not claim to have the solution but can we mash-up ideas and see what we can do about it. I am so tired of talk-shows and I have participated in them and tele is full of them. Can we DO something tangible?
What say you?
Kiania
--
[Asentric Consulting Ltd]
If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth ....
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A very good observation Lmwangi - in the cycle you might want to include NGO's, who without a crises will have a very tight budget.
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David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
Josiah Mugambi -
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Peter Karunyu