Hypothetical scenario : SOS app for a situation like Hurricane Kathrina?
Since we are very good at SOS apps so just being hypothetical here, can such SOS app be done and what prize money can KE offer to the USA devs? Here is a problem : For example most USA devs are interested in youtube successes, newer words and buyouts. GIS apps, AOL buys out Trech Crunch, Location based blah-blah etc etc, i-Apps, Andriod apps, you name it. Even Yahoo has bought out the ever famous Zimbra. And in the meantime, in KE we are looking for VCs so as to do what? Ahhh,,, that grand idea of " funding me " to develop some grand app? But the VCs are also going to benefit in variuos ways either by investments or the rest. Why "fund me else I cannot develop" similar to some politicans making a plea for financial aid. How we in some sectors of ICT have begun to master the Saidia-Ohh-Saidia too well ? I'd like to know the development costs in KE for any projects that costs running even into Kshs 100,000/-? And on what basis? Nothing personal, just some thots along Dev lines. :-) Rgds.
@aki i dont understand your question. is it ... there are no developers of apps in kenya ? there are no developes willing to do open source apps in kenya ? there are no developers for SOS apps in kenya ? ? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:09 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Since we are very good at SOS apps so just being hypothetical here, can such SOS app be done and what prize money can KE offer to the USA devs?
Here is a problem : For example most USA devs are interested in youtube successes, newer words and buyouts. GIS apps, AOL buys out Trech Crunch, Location based blah-blah etc etc, i-Apps, Andriod apps, you name it. Even Yahoo has bought out the ever famous Zimbra.
And in the meantime, in KE we are looking for VCs so as to do what? Ahhh,,, that grand idea of " funding me " to develop some grand app? But the VCs are also going to benefit in variuos ways either by investments or the rest.
Why "fund me else I cannot develop" similar to some politicans making a plea for financial aid. How we in some sectors of ICT have begun to master the Saidia-Ohh-Saidia too well ?
I'd like to know the development costs in KE for any projects that costs running even into Kshs 100,000/-? And on what basis?
Nothing personal, just some thots along Dev lines. :-)
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@Collins, Its multiple questions. - First paragraph is about whether we can offer some monetary value to those in USA devs to build apps that serve the purpose of eg what happened in Katrina? What amount can KE offer such devs? - Second paragraph offers a comparison. - The rest is a general comments. HTHs. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:16 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki i dont understand your question. is it ... there are no developers of apps in kenya ? there are no developes willing to do open source apps in kenya ? there are no developers for SOS apps in kenya ? ?
my2cnts. I know there are not many programmers in Kenya, in fact if we were to do a programmers per capita survey, (from a purist perspective hello world programmers dont count) we would be way below the global average. IT needs however are as high as they are out there. which means there is fewer programmers with spare time to develop than there are out there. secondly, i think other business environment that would support an open source model in this part of the world is less developed, which is why any advertising based publication is bound to flop in the short run. last but not least, i know of a dozen apps, there just arent that many users and as you know, in open source its all about community. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:30 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Collins,
Its multiple questions.
- First paragraph is about whether we can offer some monetary value to those in USA devs to build apps that serve the purpose of eg what happened in Katrina? What amount can KE offer such devs?
- Second paragraph offers a comparison.
- The rest is a general comments.
HTHs.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:16 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki i dont understand your question. is it ... there are no developers of apps in kenya ? there are no developes willing to do open source apps in kenya ? there are no developers for SOS apps in kenya ? ?
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@Colins, Here is an example. We have a site called the Startup-Index for whatever reasons. KE Devs do not even have a simple site that you can find in many countries that allows prospective clients to put up queries and such for Dev projects. The same sites offer a chance to Devs to bid for such projects. Such a site should be called KE Devs Index and circulated around all business and other circles. How come a VC Startup Index is a bright idea and not a KE Devs Index too? What is wrong with this picture? Esshh, SOS Apps. Mambo ime zidi! Rgds. :-) ( Mkate Nusu - Me thots ) On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:38 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
my2cnts. I know there are not many programmers in Kenya, in fact if we were to do a programmers per capita survey, (from a purist perspective hello world programmers dont count) we would be way below the global average. IT needs however are as high as they are out there. which means there is fewer programmers with spare time to develop than there are out there. secondly, i think other business environment that would support an open source model in this part of the world is less developed, which is why any advertising based publication is bound to flop in the short run. last but not least, i know of a dozen apps, there just arent that many users and as you know, in open source its all about community.
Aki, Recently, a good friend told me that poverty is the biggest export from Africa. Try make sense of that. Look at the number of donor funded projects, NGOs, Churches, etc... Africa is rich with Natural resources and human capital, why are we still the poorest? Why do we export coffee and then import it back after processing? Why do we buy south african and dubai Juices instead of delmonte? Our poverty is our making. I see the dev community headed to the same poverty export lines. David. On 11/2/10, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Since we are very good at SOS apps so just being hypothetical here, can such SOS app be done and what prize money can KE offer to the USA devs?
Here is a problem : For example most USA devs are interested in youtube successes, newer words and buyouts. GIS apps, AOL buys out Trech Crunch, Location based blah-blah etc etc, i-Apps, Andriod apps, you name it. Even Yahoo has bought out the ever famous Zimbra.
And in the meantime, in KE we are looking for VCs so as to do what? Ahhh,,, that grand idea of " funding me " to develop some grand app? But the VCs are also going to benefit in variuos ways either by investments or the rest.
Why "fund me else I cannot develop" similar to some politicans making a plea for financial aid. How we in some sectors of ICT have begun to master the Saidia-Ohh-Saidia too well ?
I'd like to know the development costs in KE for any projects that costs running even into Kshs 100,000/-? And on what basis?
Nothing personal, just some thots along Dev lines. :-)
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@David, please spare me the bull....! and small talk on poverty. :-) Most of devs have smart phones, laptops or even access to basic computers etc ( how else did they know how to to create a function in java etc ) and If you consider development on open source, what are the associated costs? Zero, my friend. Devs dont even use commercial IDEs. What is stopping people on partnering with local companies to stop creating Saidia-Ohh-Saidia Apps and move onto commercial applications ? These are some of my observations so far and I cannot understand the reasons. Rgds. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:21 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Recently, a good friend told me that poverty is the biggest export from Africa. Try make sense of that. Look at the number of donor funded projects, NGOs, Churches, etc...
Africa is rich with Natural resources and human capital, why are we still the poorest?
Why do we export coffee and then import it back after processing?
Why do we buy south african and dubai Juices instead of delmonte?
Our poverty is our making.
I see the dev community headed to the same poverty export lines.
David.
@aki, Read my response between the lines, am not giving you small talk or bullshit as you call it. All am trying to say that we all have an attitude and perception problem. David. On 11/2/10, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@David, please spare me the bull....! and small talk on poverty. :-)
Most of devs have smart phones, laptops or even access to basic computers etc ( how else did they know how to to create a function in java etc ) and If you consider development on open source, what are the associated costs? Zero, my friend. Devs dont even use commercial IDEs. What is stopping people on partnering with local companies to stop creating Saidia-Ohh-Saidia Apps and move onto commercial applications ?
These are some of my observations so far and I cannot understand the reasons.
Rgds.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:21 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Recently, a good friend told me that poverty is the biggest export from Africa. Try make sense of that. Look at the number of donor funded projects, NGOs, Churches, etc...
Africa is rich with Natural resources and human capital, why are we still the poorest?
Why do we export coffee and then import it back after processing?
Why do we buy south african and dubai Juices instead of delmonte?
Our poverty is our making.
I see the dev community headed to the same poverty export lines.
David.
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@David, somehow your earlier post seemed to justify the typical response of why there is SOS in the first place. Attitude or perception has nothing to do with it. These are just stories of why things are not getting done. In the meantime, just like I found the word QueenBee fitting for Safocm, I now officially name Apps in KE as SOS apps. Rgds. :-) On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki,
Read my response between the lines, am not giving you small talk or bullshit as you call it. All am trying to say that we all have an attitude and perception problem.
David.
@Aki, Please read again. Infact, I meant to say there is no justification. David. On 11/2/10, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@David, somehow your earlier post seemed to justify the typical response of why there is SOS in the first place. Attitude or perception has nothing to do with it. These are just stories of why things are not getting done. In the meantime, just like I found the word QueenBee fitting for Safocm, I now officially name Apps in KE as SOS apps.
Rgds. :-)
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
@aki,
Read my response between the lines, am not giving you small talk or bullshit as you call it. All am trying to say that we all have an attitude and perception problem.
David.
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My 2 cents, Many devs have "get rich quick mentality" and are not looking at apps for the long haul. This could partly be because of limited business sense where they make a very nice exciting app with no business model to support it for sustainability. The rest of the challenges are commercial, a good product is nothing if no-one knows about it and that's where things get crazy. Marketing budgets to create a critical mass for the app usage are just generally hard to come by .... maybe that's why devs think "pay me to develop or else I'll just die with my good idea" Kind regards, Paul Mwachi -- -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of aki Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:39 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hypothetical scenario : SOS app for a situation like Hurricane Kathrina? @David, please spare me the bull....! and small talk on poverty. :-) Most of devs have smart phones, laptops or even access to basic computers etc ( how else did they know how to to create a function in java etc ) and If you consider development on open source, what are the associated costs? Zero, my friend. Devs dont even use commercial IDEs. What is stopping people on partnering with local companies to stop creating Saidia-Ohh-Saidia Apps and move onto commercial applications ? These are some of my observations so far and I cannot understand the reasons. Rgds. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:21 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Recently, a good friend told me that poverty is the biggest export from Africa. Try make sense of that. Look at the number of donor funded projects, NGOs, Churches, etc...
Africa is rich with Natural resources and human capital, why are we still the poorest?
Why do we export coffee and then import it back after processing?
Why do we buy south african and dubai Juices instead of delmonte?
Our poverty is our making.
I see the dev community headed to the same poverty export lines.
David.
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Good questions. And i agree with you on all of them except the one of South African/Dubai juices and Delmonte. Especially the case with biscuits. If you enjoy eating biscuits (like I do) you will know that all the local biscuits are absolutely atrocious. From House of Manji (under the new management) to Britania to Golden Biscuits etc etc. When i go to buy biscuits without hesitation i buy McVities. Why? Because they are simply better quality. In other words being local is not enough reason for us to buy local. If McVities biscuits had the same quality as House Of Manji then i will buy local. Until they step up -- alas! On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:21 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Recently, a good friend told me that poverty is the biggest export from Africa. Try make sense of that. Look at the number of donor funded projects, NGOs, Churches, etc...
Africa is rich with Natural resources and human capital, why are we still the poorest?
Why do we export coffee and then import it back after processing?
Why do we buy south african and dubai Juices instead of delmonte?
Our poverty is our making.
I see the dev community headed to the same poverty export lines.
David.
On 11/2/10, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Since we are very good at SOS apps so just being hypothetical here, can such SOS app be done and what prize money can KE offer to the USA devs?
Here is a problem : For example most USA devs are interested in youtube successes, newer words and buyouts. GIS apps, AOL buys out Trech Crunch, Location based blah-blah etc etc, i-Apps, Andriod apps, you name it. Even Yahoo has bought out the ever famous Zimbra.
And in the meantime, in KE we are looking for VCs so as to do what? Ahhh,,, that grand idea of " funding me " to develop some grand app? But the VCs are also going to benefit in variuos ways either by investments or the rest.
Why "fund me else I cannot develop" similar to some politicans making a plea for financial aid. How we in some sectors of ICT have begun to master the Saidia-Ohh-Saidia too well ?
I'd like to know the development costs in KE for any projects that costs running even into Kshs 100,000/-? And on what basis?
Nothing personal, just some thots along Dev lines. :-)
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@Rad, I disagree with you. Here is an example: When you were much younger and in the care of of your family, did you then have access to McVites or House of Manji? Was that McVites available in your nearest kiosk? I hardly think so as am sure Marie biscuits from House of Manji were topping the list of favourites in that nearest kiosk. What you need to distinguish is that your income level has changed thus you can go to the nearest super market and get them McVites but when you go back upcountry to that kiosk, wapi McVites then? :-) Similarly and taking your example, the Dev enviroment has remained stagnant and seem to be contend with the ideas similar to politicans of any nation seeking financial aid. SOS, my friend, SOS. The new words are VCs and seeds in the context of donors. To clear the air on SOS, I'll post some artilces to backup my views that this is the excat situation. Rgds. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
McVities biscuits had the same quality as House Of Manji then i will buy local. Until they step up -- alas!
When you have actually eaten these biscuits, come and disagree with memabiut quality. Btw House of Manji biscuits were brilliant until the company folded and were acquired by britania. Income is not the issue. On Wednesday, November 3, 2010, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad,
I disagree with you.
Here is an example: When you were much younger and in the care of of your family, did you then have access to McVites or House of Manji? Was that McVites available in your nearest kiosk? I hardly think so as am sure Marie biscuits from House of Manji were topping the list of favourites in that nearest kiosk.
What you need to distinguish is that your income level has changed thus you can go to the nearest super market and get them McVites but when you go back upcountry to that kiosk, wapi McVites then? :-)
Similarly and taking your example, the Dev enviroment has remained stagnant and seem to be contend with the ideas similar to politicans of any nation seeking financial aid. SOS, my friend, SOS. The new words are VCs and seeds in the context of donors.
To clear the air on SOS, I'll post some artilces to backup my views that this is the excat situation.
Rgds.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
McVities biscuits had the same quality as House Of Manji then i will buy local. Until they step up -- alas!
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@Rad, :-))) I can see you love your biscuits! As a first step towards McVites and away from Saidia-Ohh-Saidia apps, when are we setting setting up the KE Developer Index? Or do we need VC and Seed thinking ( "fund me/Prize me to develop ") which is so misplaced. Who amongst us will set the ball rolling on the KE Developer Index Board? Rgds. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
When you have actually eaten these biscuits, come and disagree with memabiut quality. Btw House of Manji biscuits were brilliant until the company folded and were acquired by britania. Income is not the issue.
Aki, You mean something like : http://www.builditwith.me/ ? On 3 November 2010 02:32, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, :-))) I can see you love your biscuits!
As a first step towards McVites and away from Saidia-Ohh-Saidia apps, when are we setting setting up the KE Developer Index? Or do we need VC and Seed thinking ( "fund me/Prize me to develop ") which is so misplaced.
Who amongst us will set the ball rolling on the KE Developer Index Board?
Rgds.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
When you have actually eaten these biscuits, come and disagree with memabiut quality. Btw House of Manji biscuits were brilliant until the company folded and were acquired by britania. Income is not the issue.
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Hey Kyalo, Thnks for the link. What am thinking of is similar to what other countries do. You have an Index or Board ( eg like PunBB ) . Companies, individuals etc can go online create their project needs. All Kenyan Devs can bid for the work etc. Rgds. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
You mean something like : http://www.builditwith.me/ ?
PunBB
"*PunBB* is a fast and lightweight PHP-powered discussion board. It is released under the GNU General Public .. blah blah". It is what the SK forum runs on. Did you mean that one ?
Companies, individuals etc can go online create their project needs. All Kenyan Devs can bid for the work etc.
Another odesk.com of sorts ? On 3 November 2010 02:42, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Kyalo,
Thnks for the link.
What am thinking of is similar to what other countries do. You have an Index or Board ( eg like PunBB ) .
Rgds.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
You mean something like : http://www.builditwith.me/ ?
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@Kyalo, It does not really matter what the platform but I think you know very well the layout needed for the Index. :-) General question : Is this something that can be under the umbrella of Skunks KE or are most Dev skunks part of the "problem" ( read : "S.O.S apps" ) ? If this is the case, I do not see us making any progress. @Rad, the process towards McVites has begun. What will it take for the Dev community to come together and make this happen? Rgds. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
Another odesk.com of sorts ?
Ok Gents, Ladies. I've added a new signature to my mails, which is a protest to all KE Devs on this list. Until something gets done, this signature will not be removed. Asanteni. --- Saidia-Ohh-Saidia SOS Apps Made in KE aka Mkate Nusu ---
@aki, are you an SOS developer? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:32 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Gents, Ladies. I've added a new signature to my mails, which is a protest to all KE Devs on this list. Until something gets done, this signature will not be removed.
Asanteni.
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I have tried to agree more with Rad and I can't (yaani I couldn't agree more with you Rad!) :) Kind regards, Paul Mwachi Top Tier Software Developers - The Effective Process - Your Organization From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Rad! Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:49 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hypothetical scenario : SOS app for a situation like Hurricane Kathrina? Good questions. And i agree with you on all of them except the one of South African/Dubai juices and Delmonte. Especially the case with biscuits. If you enjoy eating biscuits (like I do) you will know that all the local biscuits are absolutely atrocious. From House of Manji (under the new management) to Britania to Golden Biscuits etc etc. When i go to buy biscuits without hesitation i buy McVities. Why? Because they are simply better quality. In other words being local is not enough reason for us to buy local. If McVities biscuits had the same quality as House Of Manji then i will buy local. Until they step up -- alas! On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:21 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com<mailto:raidarmax@gmail.com>> wrote: Aki, Recently, a good friend told me that poverty is the biggest export from Africa. Try make sense of that. Look at the number of donor funded projects, NGOs, Churches, etc... Africa is rich with Natural resources and human capital, why are we still the poorest? Why do we export coffee and then import it back after processing? Why do we buy south african and dubai Juices instead of delmonte? Our poverty is our making. I see the dev community headed to the same poverty export lines. David. On 11/2/10, aki <aki275@gmail.com<mailto:aki275@gmail.com>> wrote:
Since we are very good at SOS apps so just being hypothetical here, can such SOS app be done and what prize money can KE offer to the USA devs?
Here is a problem : For example most USA devs are interested in youtube successes, newer words and buyouts. GIS apps, AOL buys out Trech Crunch, Location based blah-blah etc etc, i-Apps, Andriod apps, you name it. Even Yahoo has bought out the ever famous Zimbra.
And in the meantime, in KE we are looking for VCs so as to do what? Ahhh,,, that grand idea of " funding me " to develop some grand app? But the VCs are also going to benefit in variuos ways either by investments or the rest.
Why "fund me else I cannot develop" similar to some politicans making a plea for financial aid. How we in some sectors of ICT have begun to master the Saidia-Ohh-Saidia too well ?
I'd like to know the development costs in KE for any projects that costs running even into Kshs 100,000/-? And on what basis?
Nothing personal, just some thots along Dev lines. :-)
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