In a Nutshell this situation is getting out of hand right from the Old days of MySQL 4.X the big Database vendors (Oracle, IBM, M$)were not worried about MySQL after all MySQL occupied the web space and that was pretty much it. There came a time when something happened that nobody expected but anticipated. MySQL 5 introduced stored proceedures, views, triggers etc, InnoDB was unofficial replaced by XtraDB which in my opinion is a much better storage engine. With Oracles level of support towards InnoDB was a sign of things to come. Anyway, that aside, I know this hasn't happened in Africa but in the west we have Big companies using MySQL for their Enterprise operation in favor of Oracle and that is not good news for Oracle and therefore even though Oracle will not totally Kill MySQL for their own good... there are already existing customer some of who dumped Oracle in favor of MySQL. Oracle i giving no guarantee on the direction the growth of MySQL takes and it doesn't guarantee all of the MySQL or any part of it wont become closed source. Oracle's feelings towards Open Source Precede them. If Oracle puts any restrictions on the MySQl source it will also affect MariaDB which uses a lot of code out of the MySQL 5.1 Tree. Its just a few days now so lets see what the European Union says about this. Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi US: +1 202 297 6831 +1 202 470 0525 KE: +254 722 627 691 http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Muchemi" <pmuchemi@gmail.com> To: bmwagiru@gmail.com, "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:54:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Help Saving MySQL monty & co pocketed $1b from Sun for MySQL. why the crocodile tears. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Bernard Mwagiru < bmwagiru@gmail.com > wrote: Even though Oracle insist that Mysql is safe, I just hope the open database alliance will provide the support that MariaDB (Monty AB) really needs. bernard -----Original Message----- From: Steve Obbayi Sent: 14/12/2009 4:34:23 pm Subject: [Skunkworks] Help Saving MySQL http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi US: +1 202 297 6831 KE: +254 722 627 691 http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Regards http://www.software.co.ke ------------------------------------------------------------------ "What makes it remarkable is how well the software works. This software never crashes. It never needs to be re-booted. This software is bug-free. It is perfect, as perfect as human beings have achieved" _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:

In a Nutshell this situation is getting out of hand right from the Old days of MySQL 4.X the big Database vendors (Oracle, IBM, M$)were not worried about MySQL after all MySQL occupied the web space and that was pretty much it. There came a time when something happened that nobody expected but anticipated. MySQL 5 introduced stored proceedures, views, triggers etc, InnoDB was unofficial replaced by XtraDB which in my opinion is a much better storage engine.

With Oracles level of support towards InnoDB was a sign of things to come. Anyway, that aside, I know this hasn't happened in Africa but in the west we have Big companies using MySQL for their Enterprise operation in favor of Oracle and that is not good news for Oracle and therefore even though Oracle will not totally Kill MySQL for their own good... there are already existing customer some of who dumped Oracle in favor of MySQL. Oracle i giving no guarantee on the direction the growth of MySQL takes and it doesn't guarantee all of the MySQL or any part of it wont become closed source. Oracle's feelings towards Open Source Precede them.

If Oracle puts any restrictions on the MySQl source it will also affect MariaDB which uses a lot of code out of the MySQL 5.1 Tree. Its just a few days now so lets see what the European Union says about this.

Steve Obbayi

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Muchemi" <pmuchemi@gmail.com> To: bmwagiru@gmail.com, "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:54:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Help Saving MySQL

monty & co pocketed $1b from Sun for MySQL. why the crocodile tears.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Bernard Mwagiru < bmwagiru@gmail.com > wrote:

Even though Oracle insist that Mysql is safe, I just hope the open database alliance will provide the support that MariaDB (Monty AB) really needs.

bernard

-----Original Message----- From: Steve Obbayi Sent: 14/12/2009 4:34:23 pm Subject: [Skunkworks] Help Saving MySQL

http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-saving-mysql.html

Steve Obbayi

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Its interesting...especially since most of the MySQL leaders (both commercial and project) have left Sun and the people who are left are sitting with their CV and ready to press send......i believe that the biggest threat to MySQL future is not Oracle per se, but that the MySQL talent at Sun will spread like the wind and go to a lot of different companies which will set the MySQL development and support back years.....Anyway here's an upcoming webinar from Sun/Oracle/MySQL..... fromSun Microsystems <sun.microsystems@mail.communications.sun.com>reply-to sun.microsystems@mail.communications.sun.com tobmwagiru@gmail.com dateMon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:28 PMsubjectMySQL Webinar Invitation: How to grow your user base 275% with HAmailed-bymail.communications.sun.comsigned-by mail.communications.sun.com MYSQL Webinar How to grow your user base 275% with High Availability *University of Turku in Finland* is at the forefront of research in areas such as bioscience, interaction of culture and society, mathematical research, research of learning and education, astronomy and space research. Their organization is expanding from 22,000 users to 60,000 users with the combination of Turku School of Economics and University of Turku as one unified organization as of January 1st 2010. With MySQL Enterprise the universities have created a solution that enables them to expand and scale. "With our double set of databases, we can ensure high availability of the identity and access management of all students". Listen to Miika Kauppi, Project Manager at University of Turku, present how he designed the solution, purchased it and now is taking it into production. *WHO*: *Miika Kauppi*, Project Manager at University of Turku. *WHAT*: How to grow your user base 275% with High Availability - web presentation. *WHEN*: *Wednesday January 13th 2010 at 10:00 am CET*: 09:00 am Western European Time 10:00 am Central European Time 11.00 am Eastern European Time The presentation will be approximately 45 minutes long followed by Q&A. *WHERE*: Simply access the web seminar from the comfort of your own office. To register for this web presentation, please go to: * http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/web-seminars/display-430.html<http://communications1.sun.com/r/c/r?2.1.3J1.2Tc.15Y%2aGE.CSvujs..H.Gb8A.2css.bW89MQ%5f%5fCefWFQJ0> * Sincerely, MySQL ------------------------------ Copyright © 2010 | *www.mysql.com*<http://communications1.sun.com/r/c/r?2.1.3J1.2Tc.15Y%2aGE.CSvujs..H.Gb8C.2css.bW89MQ%5f%5fCfGKFQL0>