Hi Steve, Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in seeing how the costs are worked out. On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting on board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would have been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help if need be.
For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act on it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and work out the details from there. You will make more progress that way. If not it will be another dud.
Steve
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*From: *"James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not just say it but do it in reality.
On 2/9/14, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
Uko na point. On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Willy,
Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares that are so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and setting up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 working in one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My opinion is quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working under one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. Thereby cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of establishment, network and compete healthly.
On 2/9/14, William kibe <njoroge.kibe@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you have in mind?
regards Kibe William On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
In every profession networking is the greatest asset for sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and other IT Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small independent business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in Luthuli on our way to Gikomba.
I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine IT Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and put our minds together and work together and make our enterprises an associates business. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Odhiambo Washington, Mine is just an idea, that am seeking positive minded guys around with help of guys like Steve who have seen such a system work and work effectively. We can have a similar model but we have to justify mean to suite our local market. Try research on a law firm structure, am also doing that and hope we compare notes later today. What we need is just put our positive energy together. James - ISL. On 2/10/14, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in seeing how the costs are worked out.
On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting on board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would have been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help if need be.
For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act on it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and work out the details from there. You will make more progress that way. If not it will be another dud.
Steve
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*From: *"James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> *To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 *Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not just say it but do it in reality.
On 2/9/14, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
Uko na point. On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Willy,
Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares that are so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and setting up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 working in one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My opinion is quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working under one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. Thereby cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of establishment, network and compete healthly.
On 2/9/14, William kibe <njoroge.kibe@gmail.com> wrote:
What do you have in mind?
regards Kibe William On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
In every profession networking is the greatest asset for sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and other IT Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small independent business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in Luthuli on our way to Gikomba.
I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine IT Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and put our minds together and work together and make our enterprises an associates business. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
Basically this guy decided to partitioned the office space he was leasing and no longer needed into several offices. Him being a brand strategist, he found that he worked a lot with designers, developers, photographers, marketers etc. He sublet the individual offices to the same freelancers who would complement what his work thereby bringing in a pool of necessary talent who would work with him and/or each other when the need arose or work on their own as they normally would. Then everyone shares the common areas, office accessories and services of the administrative staff. In our case because there is no one who already has the space, then getting off the ground will definitely need some additional input from all involved in getting a place to start out. Steve ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 10 de Febrero 2014 9:30:46 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | Hi Steve, | Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the | kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the | details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in | seeing how the costs are worked out. | On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote: | | This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting | | on | | board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would | | have | | been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the | | country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set | | up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet | | marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The | | stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary | | services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, | | scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, | | snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its | | easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at | | the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help | | if need be. | | | For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc | | and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act | | on | | it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and | | work out the details from there. You will make more progress that | | way. If not it will be another dud. | | | Steve | | | | From: "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > | | | | | | Sent: Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | | | | | | Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not | | | just | | | | | | say it but do it in reality. | | | | | | On 2/9/14, Memusi < tonatech@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | > Uko na point. | | | | | | > On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | > wrote: | | | | | | > | | | | | | >> Willy, | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares | | | >> that | | | >> are | | | | | | >> so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and | | | >> setting | | | | | | >> up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 | | | >> working | | | >> in | | | | | | >> one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My | | | >> opinion | | | >> is | | | | | | >> quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working | | | >> under | | | | | | >> one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. | | | >> Thereby | | | | | | >> cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of | | | | | | >> establishment, network and compete healthly. | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> On 2/9/14, William kibe < njoroge.kibe@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | >> > What do you have in mind? | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> > regards | | | | | | >> > Kibe William | | | | | | >> > On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com | | | >> > > | | | >> > wrote: | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> >> Skunks, | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> In every profession networking is the greatest asset for | | | | | | >> >> sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and | | | >> >> other | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small | | | >> >> independent | | | | | | >> >> business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in | | | >> >> Luthuli on | | | | | | >> >> our way to Gikomba. | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and | | | >> >> put | | | >> >> our | | | | | | >> >> minds together and work together and make our enterprises | | | >> >> an | | | | | | >> >> associates business. | | | | | | >> >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> | | | | | | > | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | ------------ | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | ------------ | | | Skunkworks Rules | | | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | ------------ | | | Other services @ http://my.co..ke | | -- | Best regards, | Odhiambo WASHINGTON, | Nairobi,KE | +254733744121/+254722743223 | "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." | _______________________________________________ | skunkworks mailing list | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | ------------ | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | ------------ | Skunkworks Rules | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | ------------ | Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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