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http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
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An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
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An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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Of course it is Rad! the point is critical info is sent to overseas servers where it can be easily 'harvested'. may be next time when we accept such gifts we can also turn to say, IRAN to wipe out any sniffers that are in the works that favors Big bro :-) On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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I think that doesn't mean that someone else can't be spying on us using devices built by someone else. On 3 August 2010 11:59, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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Why should the voting info not be public???? On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I think that doesn't mean that someone else can't be spying on us using devices built by someone else.
On 3 August 2010 11:59, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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I think it's not that the voting info won't be public, but the communication between the election monitors/coordinators is *likely *to be tapped by the so-called big brother On 3 August 2010 12:29, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:
Why should the voting info not be public????
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I think that doesn't mean that someone else can't be spying on us using devices built by someone else.
On 3 August 2010 11:59, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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Well, I think we should look at how they actually steal the info. They might do it by sniffing every action we do with the gift devices, a problem whose only solution is not to use the device if we cant afford to share our info, or they can also offer to provide the software itself and claim its secure where we will leave all our trust of security on them. If none of this is valid and we are guaranteed that they cant go sniffing on data on the devices RAM, then the best solution will be to come up with our own cryptographic software solution to provide the functionality using the devices. But well that might not really help because the time the gifts came in gave no time for anyone to come up with any such solutions. So it leads to the same thing, we are not yet sufficient on our own. But I bet we are our own problem and the best thing to do is try to solve our problem and not start blaming others for I have come to discover this is one of the things that really pulls us down. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I think that doesn't mean that someone else can't be spying on us using devices built by someone else.
On 3 August 2010 11:59, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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Trust me on this -- if the US wanted to find out what traffic was moving between ECK HQ and the field, it would. It would not matter if we are using RIM or Safaricom or Yu. The machinery in terms of satellites, computing power, security signals intelligence etc that Obama has at his disposal is formidable indeed. Just do some research on the mandate of the US NSA and the tools and resources it has at its disposal. They don't need to work too hard to access our communication lines. Our police radio network is easily compromised by any ham radio operator. I mean, you see government advertisements in the newspapers with yahoo email addresses for goodness sake! As conspiracy theories go, i wouldn't lose too much sleep over this one. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:
Well, I think we should look at how they actually steal the info. They might do it by sniffing every action we do with the gift devices, a problem whose only solution is not to use the device if we cant afford to share our info, or they can also offer to provide the software itself and claim its secure where we will leave all our trust of security on them. If none of this is valid and we are guaranteed that they cant go sniffing on data on the devices RAM, then the best solution will be to come up with our own cryptographic software solution to provide the functionality using the devices. But well that might not really help because the time the gifts came in gave no time for anyone to come up with any such solutions. So it leads to the same thing, we are not yet sufficient on our own. But I bet we are our own problem and the best thing to do is try to solve our problem and not start blaming others for I have come to discover this is one of the things that really pulls us down.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I think that doesn't mean that someone else can't be spying on us using devices built by someone else.
On 3 August 2010 11:59, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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Could someone tell me exactly what info should be secret in a voting process? if the returning officer has anything to say let him say it in-front of the public. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Trust me on this -- if the US wanted to find out what traffic was moving between ECK HQ and the field, it would.
It would not matter if we are using RIM or Safaricom or Yu. The machinery in terms of satellites, computing power, security signals intelligence etc that Obama has at his disposal is formidable indeed.
Just do some research on the mandate of the US NSA and the tools and resources it has at its disposal. They don't need to work too hard to access our communication lines. Our police radio network is easily compromised by any ham radio operator. I mean, you see government advertisements in the newspapers with yahoo email addresses for goodness sake!
As conspiracy theories go, i wouldn't lose too much sleep over this one.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:
Well, I think we should look at how they actually steal the info. They might do it by sniffing every action we do with the gift devices, a problem whose only solution is not to use the device if we cant afford to share our info, or they can also offer to provide the software itself and claim its secure where we will leave all our trust of security on them. If none of this is valid and we are guaranteed that they cant go sniffing on data on the devices RAM, then the best solution will be to come up with our own cryptographic software solution to provide the functionality using the devices. But well that might not really help because the time the gifts came in gave no time for anyone to come up with any such solutions. So it leads to the same thing, we are not yet sufficient on our own. But I bet we are our own problem and the best thing to do is try to solve our problem and not start blaming others for I have come to discover this is one of the things that really pulls us down.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
I think that doesn't mean that someone else can't be spying on us using devices built by someone else.
On 3 August 2010 11:59, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Boss, it might interest you to know that RIM is a *CANADIAN* company.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/44583.php?s=h
An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
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about Blackberry, refer to another skunks post that explains Blackberry encryption
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bogi Benga <bogibenda@gmail.com> wrote:
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An interesting thought. The US were so kind to assist IIEC with blackberries for the referendum. this is Big brother keeping an eye on everything, anythime. And us being so gullible to accept such donation Is Big brother a crafty genius or Are we just being plain needy and stupid
Are you insinuating that whoever donated the Blackberries wired them in such a way that they monitored all usage for ulterior or otherwise motives? This is such a crazy thought! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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