Dear Skunks, I am looking for 2 good UPS'es that will sustain 2 Dell poweredge 2900 servers, a high end switch and router for about 6 hours. Anyone know of any good models and who the resellers are? I appreciate your feedback. Rgds, Cikz.
Get in touch at the below address as power consumption of the below has to be determined and time also. We are Authorised APC/MGE/MECER Dealers. You could send your nos offline. Alvin Corporate Account Manager Greenline Technology Limited IT Hardware and Software Solutions 2nd Floor, Odyssey Plaza, Mukoma Road. Email :info@greenline.co.ke +254 20 651755 / 552086 +254 20 2425225 / 2429743 +254 20 559841 +254 722-219938/733-610758 Mon-Fri (8-5pm) Print only when necessary On 11/13/09, Cikz <jociku@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Skunks,
I am looking for 2 good UPS'es that will sustain 2 Dell poweredge 2900 servers, a high end switch and router for about 6 hours. Anyone know of any good models and who the resellers are?
I appreciate your feedback.
Rgds,
Cikz.
Try "Westcon" - based on the Kangemi stage, hapa Westy..
Alex...you may be right...6 hours isnt a short period !!! On 11/13/09, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Westcon dont stock UPS.......
On 11/13/09, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Try "Westcon" - based on the Kangemi stage, hapa Westy..
How much is a 3-6 hr UPS? The price becomes very unreasonable after 1 hour UPS... I got a one hour APC UPS for 3500/- last year at bestel - it was an offer. 650 KVA - 20 minutes for old desktop, 30 min for modern desktops, 55 min to 1 hour for 21" TV or 1hr20min Laptop. What if one lines them up in series or parallel with one hour UPS of the highest power rating that can serve your equipment? Can they serve the intended 6 hours ???
Stephen, Which APC ups costs 3,500/=? or are you talking about 2nd hand machines? Alvin On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:13 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
How much is a 3-6 hr UPS?
The price becomes very unreasonable after 1 hour UPS...
I got a one hour APC UPS for 3500/- last year at bestel - it was an offer. 650 KVA - 20 minutes for old desktop, 30 min for modern desktops, 55 min to 1 hour for 21" TV or 1hr20min Laptop.
What if one lines them up in series or parallel with one hour UPS of the highest power rating that can serve your equipment? Can they serve the intended 6 hours ???
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Did you say 650 KVA? That must be a one beast of a UPS.
hehehe...Philip it must be 650va .......... On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you say 650 KVA? That must be a one beast of a UPS.
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The best ones are APC,currenltly 650VA goes for around 6-7k but the batteries i realised are normally not the APC ones(am not sure if they change them for low quality ones).But a frnd of mine is using a car battery.He connects the terminals to the UPS battery n that way bothh batteries are cahrged. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you say 650 KVA? That must be a one beast of a UPS.
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Lawrence, Buy from Authorised dealers....those tricks are from fake dealers.... APC Back-UPS RS 650VA, 230V, 6,500/= Exstock - 2 YEAR WARRANTY My address is below for all APC UPS SIzes. Authorisation status is available on demand........ ALVIN SALES DEPARTMENT Greenline Technology Limited IT Hardware and Software Solutions 2nd Floor, Odyssey Plaza, Mukoma Road. Email :info@greenline.co.ke +254 20 651755 / 552086 +254 20 2425225 / 2429743 +254 20 559841 +254 722-219938/733-610758 Mon-Fri (8-5pm) Print only when necessary SEE LIST BELOW APC Back-UPS APC Back-UPS RS 650VA, 230V, without auto-shutdown software APC Smart-UPS SC NEW! APC Smart-UPS SC 1000VA 230V - 2U Rackmount/Tower NEW! APC Smart-UPS SC 1500VA 230V - 2U Rackmount/Tower APC Smart-UPS APC Smart-UPS 750VA USB & Serial 230V APC Smart-UPS RT APC Smart-UPS RT 1000VA 230V APC Smart-UPS RT 2000VA 230V APC Smart-UPS RT 5000VA 230V + APC Smart-UPS RT 19" Rail Kit for Smart-UPS RT 3/5/7.5/10kVA APC Smart-UPS Rackmount APC Smart-UPS 1000VA USB & Serial RM 1U 230V APC Smart-UPS 5000VA 230V Rackmount/Tower On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote:
The best ones are APC,currenltly 650VA goes for around 6-7k but the batteries i realised are normally not the APC ones(am not sure if they change them for low quality ones).But a frnd of mine is using a car battery.He connects the terminals to the UPS battery n that way bothh batteries are cahrged.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you say 650 KVA? That must be a one beast of a UPS.
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Errr, sorry.. That was 650 VA - and it was like a one time offer from Bestel,, I bot last year at Ksh. 3500 - someone must have made an error [the guys at the counter :) ] , because I went back this year and suggested prices were as quoted by Alvin. However, can someone link up several 1 hour UPS in series or parallel for them to last longer hours ? Anyone tried ? The car battery connection in parallel with a UPS battery from Lawrence, is one example I am hearing...
I have never tried it but I dont think you will get the same power out of the batteries.... On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Errr, sorry..
That was 650 VA - and it was like a one time offer from Bestel,, I bot last year at Ksh. 3500 - someone must have made an error [the guys at the counter :) ] , because I went back this year and suggested prices were as quoted by Alvin.
However, can someone link up several 1 hour UPS in series or parallel for them to last longer hours ? Anyone tried ?
The car battery connection in parallel with a UPS battery from Lawrence, is one example I am hearing...
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You can buy an inverter and a couple of batteries and you can configure your UPS to as many hours as the batteries you can afford. You can get a 750W inverter (a TrippLite or any other model) and get a 200AH Gaston battery and connect them. Then you have 5 hours of power. But this is an expensive option.
One problem you may encounter with the parallel UPS setup is power management. By using a larger smart UPS and battery management, you can manage shutdown alerts to eg network devices, before the batteries completely drain. This option is too critical for servers running eg SCSI type HDDs. You may be putting HDDs at severe risk of crashing and data losses. The other benefit of power management is on incremental backup systems. Imagine if the system was unable to stop the backup process and powered off during the write cycle process. A distaster waiting to happen. Though initially expensive, larger battery banks with smart power managements is worth an investment, depeneding on your application. To me it the worry would not be just about adding more uptime to a UPS, it would be more about how to manage the intended shutdowns to save on data problems. Me thots. :-)
Aki..........nail on the head !!! On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
One problem you may encounter with the parallel UPS setup is power management. By using a larger smart UPS and battery management, you can manage shutdown alerts to eg network devices, before the batteries completely drain. This option is too critical for servers running eg SCSI type HDDs. You may be putting HDDs at severe risk of crashing and data losses. The other benefit of power management is on incremental backup systems. Imagine if the system was unable to stop the backup process and powered off during the write cycle process. A distaster waiting to happen. Though initially expensive, larger battery banks with smart power managements is worth an investment, depeneding on your application. To me it the worry would not be just about adding more uptime to a UPS, it would be more about how to manage the intended shutdowns to save on data problems.
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I use MECER 10KVA its works and is affordable. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Aki..........nail on the head !!!
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
One problem you may encounter with the parallel UPS setup is power management. By using a larger smart UPS and battery management, you can manage shutdown alerts to eg network devices, before the batteries completely drain. This option is too critical for servers running eg SCSI type HDDs. You may be putting HDDs at severe risk of crashing and data losses. The other benefit of power management is on incremental backup systems. Imagine if the system was unable to stop the backup process and powered off during the write cycle process. A distaster waiting to happen. Though initially expensive, larger battery banks with smart power managements is worth an investment, depeneding on your application. To me it the worry would not be just about adding more uptime to a UPS, it would be more about how to manage the intended shutdowns to save on data problems.
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Moses....did you get the below for roughly 140k? am sourcing?? MECER 10000VA On-Line UPS (with AVR,Monitoring Software + Cable & Built-in Surge Protection) -Serial MECER 10000VA On-Line UPS (with AVR,Monitoring Software + Cable & Built-in Surge Protection) -USB On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
I use MECER 10KVA its works and is affordable.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki..........nail on the head !!!
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
One problem you may encounter with the parallel UPS setup is power management. By using a larger smart UPS and battery management, you can manage shutdown alerts to eg network devices, before the batteries completely drain. This option is too critical for servers running eg SCSI type HDDs. You may be putting HDDs at severe risk of crashing and data losses. The other benefit of power management is on incremental backup systems. Imagine if the system was unable to stop the backup process and powered off during the write cycle process. A distaster waiting to happen. Though initially expensive, larger battery banks with smart power managements is worth an investment, depeneding on your application. To me it the worry would not be just about adding more uptime to a UPS, it would be more about how to manage the intended shutdowns to save on data problems.
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@ Moses How much is that UPS, and how many hours ?
I got it at 139k. I even got some I bought 2 years ago for some high end requirement(2KW) that lasts about 30 mins. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Moses
How much is that UPS, and how many hours ?
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30 min only ? I been looking for something that can push a few stuff in the house when stima is lost - like 3 hours to run e.g the TV, a few lights and a few sounds.... I cant seem to get anything at reasonable price cos anything above 1 hr price shoots up at a steep exponential curve.. That was the reason for my inquiry..
Stephen you need an inverter for your hse not ups............whats ur budget?? Sollatek is great !!!!!!! Alvin On 11/18/09, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
30 min only ?
I been looking for something that can push a few stuff in the house when stima is lost - like 3 hours to run e.g the TV, a few lights and a few sounds.... I cant seem to get anything at reasonable price cos anything above 1 hr price shoots up at a steep exponential curve.. That was the reason for my inquiry..
Sollatek ? Where can I visit to inquire ? Thanks for the info though...
I agree with Inverters idea. I did a quote a year + ago for the inverter for a certain company and the ranges were 15,32,40,70 and 100k with one battery each. They never bought them anyway so i cant tell the reliability and i cant remember the model(Manufacturers)but they promised(Sales) that the small one can last for 3 Hrs,Nway sales p'ple can do anything for a sale.... On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Sollatek ? Where can I visit to inquire ?
Thanks for the info though...
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To be safe buy things from guys who are trained in the field and various items... You will never go wrong....... On 11/18/09, Lawrence Kago <lawrencekago@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Inverters idea.
I did a quote a year + ago for the inverter for a certain company and the ranges were 15,32,40,70 and 100k with one battery each.
They never bought them anyway so i cant tell the reliability and i cant remember the model(Manufacturers)but they promised(Sales) that the small one can last for 3 Hrs,Nway sales p'ple can do anything for a sale....
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Sollatek ? Where can I visit to inquire ?
Thanks for the info though...
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An inverter systems may be cheaper for you need. -----Original Message----- From: Cikz <jociku@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [Skunkworks] UPS Sellers: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:22:59 +0300 Dear Skunks, I am looking for 2 good UPS'es that will sustain 2 Dell poweredge 2900 servers, a high end switch and router for about 6 hours. Anyone know of any good models and who the resellers are? I appreciate your feedback. Rgds, Cikz. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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