A usb high powered wifi card. https://www.xconcepts-me.com/product_details.asp?CatId=3&SubCatId=&ProdId=26... -- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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Just emailed him. Waiting for a response. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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how about Giganet long range outdoor POE device which covers upto 30km, can work as an AP,Bridge,repeater, AP client and supports all wifi security and has an easy management interface regards Mwei On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
A usb high powered wifi card.
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, mwei gideon <mweigideon@gmail.com> wrote:
how about Giganet long range outdoor POE device which covers upto 30km, can work as an AP,Bridge,repeater, AP client and supports all wifi security and has an easy management interface
I have considered that option but given it cost most of my customers say its too high. -- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, mwei gideon <mweigideon@gmail.com> wrote:
how about Giganet long range outdoor POE device which covers upto 30km, can work as an AP,Bridge,repeater, AP client and supports all wifi security and has an easy management interface
I have considered that option but given it cost most of my customers say its too high.
Job, Which device is it and how expensive is it? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
@Washington I normally go for nanostations for outdoor applications but so clients say its off their budget at 8000 KES and the giganet i was getting for about 12000kes so I opted for the hallostation it comes with an usb interface (8Mtr cable include) and a 14dBi panel(outdoor) for just 4500KES. If you have a better solution am listening.
Go for a nano. It may cost now, but it will not let you down. not even when you are five km away and this is WIFI. I have even managed to flash it, install OpenWRT, install wifidog, and flush it back like a million times and it just wont brick. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
@Washington I normally go for nanostations for outdoor applications but so clients say its off their budget at 8000 KES and the giganet i was getting for about 12000kes so I opted for the hallostation it comes with an usb interface (8Mtr cable include) and a 14dBi panel(outdoor) for just 4500KES. If you have a better solution am listening. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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Really 5 km away from a wifi source? Even if its a standard router? On 8/24/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Go for a nano. It may cost now, but it will not let you down. not even when you are five km away and this is WIFI. I have even managed to flash it, install OpenWRT, install wifidog, and flush it back like a million times and it just wont brick.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
@Washington I normally go for nanostations for outdoor applications but so clients say its off their budget at 8000 KES and the giganet i was getting for about 12000kes so I opted for the hallostation it comes with an usb interface (8Mtr cable include) and a 14dBi panel(outdoor) for just 4500KES. If you have a better solution am listening. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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i dont know about standard router but .... nano to nano -> yeah. router with external antennae -> yes. (WRT54G series and some mundane cisco router tested). On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Really 5 km away from a wifi source? Even if its a standard router?
On 8/24/10, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Go for a nano. It may cost now, but it will not let you down. not even when you are five km away and this is WIFI. I have even managed to flash it, install OpenWRT, install wifidog, and flush it back like a million times and it just wont brick.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
@Washington I normally go for nanostations for outdoor applications but so clients say its off their budget at 8000 KES and the giganet i was getting for about 12000kes so I opted for the hallostation it comes with an usb interface (8Mtr cable include) and a 14dBi panel(outdoor) for just 4500KES. If you have a better solution am listening. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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I use Nanostations 2 and M2 really great devices but I the problem is I offer wireless internet and my customers complain about the price, its too high for them. I know its the best way to go but with this halostations I can do 10km clear LOS on 2.4ghz and they are affordable compared to the nanostations like half of them.
hi @job, how much do the halostations go for? On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Nanostations 2 and M2 really great devices but I the problem is I offer wireless internet and my customers complain about the price, its too high for them. I know its the best way to go but with this halostations I can do 10km clear LOS on 2.4ghz and they are affordable compared to the nanostations like half of them. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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@Brainiac 5km nano to nano can work - personally have once surfed with a laptop 2km away from a 2.4 mikrotik radio (LOS obviously) - but it really depends on the environment i.e. interference. For example the nairobi west & south c areas are a real pain in the a** to get a 2.4 point to point up and running all the way from 2412 to 2472Mhz. In my tests it was from a few 2.4 mikrotiks to several nanostations. You can get a good signal but CCQ could be less than 20%. That's how you know interference is barking up your tree. Another interesting thing I have noticed is not all laptops get the same signal strength from the same AP at the same distance. HP, Dell and Macs are good but I have seen a couple of Toshibas with issues. There are so many devices using 2.4GHz (even cordless phones) and with its affinity for water (read foliage) and total absorption by concrete...IMO it's better to set up multiple repeaters with cheaper units like locostations which bridge the traffic to the main station e.g. like butterfly did. In this case the halostations are good enough...in short having clients accessing your mast/base station with their cpe radios is a sure way to ensure quality of service than them running around from room to room looking for the best signal and calling you day after day. Lastly, using several sector antennas is waay better in terms of client link stability than having one omni on the mast. You can also set up bridging among the antennas to have seamless hopping as they get out of range of one and go to another while they have similar SSIDs. Make sure you use different frequencies among the sectors in such a case. It is also highly advisable you use dedicated minipci cards (or radios) per sector than using a signal splitter. These strategies have worked for me countless times over the past several years in different places in and out of Nairobi, and they work for all spectra, not just 2.4GHz. My 10 cents :o)
ooow, yeah, you folks in the city are soo many even frequency is rare. im about half a km and my ccq is 100% my friend david lives across the creek about 3km and his ccq is more or less in the 70-80 threshold. it must really suck to live in south B / C im sure everyone has their gadgets left at default and not optimized to correct for collisions and all that. then again, maybe everyone is trying to sell internet to everyone.... :-) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
@Brainiac
5km nano to nano can work - personally have once surfed with a laptop 2km away from a 2.4 mikrotik radio (LOS obviously) - but it really depends on the environment i.e. interference. For example the nairobi west & south c areas are a real pain in the a** to get a 2.4 point to point up and running all the way from 2412 to 2472Mhz. In my tests it was from a few 2.4 mikrotiks to several nanostations. You can get a good signal but CCQ could be less than 20%. That's how you know interference is barking up your tree.
Another interesting thing I have noticed is not all laptops get the same signal strength from the same AP at the same distance. HP, Dell and Macs are good but I have seen a couple of Toshibas with issues.
There are so many devices using 2.4GHz (even cordless phones) and with its affinity for water (read foliage) and total absorption by concrete...IMO it's better to set up multiple repeaters with cheaper units like locostations which bridge the traffic to the main station e.g. like butterfly did. In this case the halostations are good enough...in short having clients accessing your mast/base station with their cpe radios is a sure way to ensure quality of service than them running around from room to room looking for the best signal and calling you day after day.
Lastly, using several sector antennas is waay better in terms of client link stability than having one omni on the mast. You can also set up bridging among the antennas to have seamless hopping as they get out of range of one and go to another while they have similar SSIDs. Make sure you use different frequencies among the sectors in such a case. It is also highly advisable you use dedicated minipci cards (or radios) per sector than using a signal splitter. These strategies have worked for me countless times over the past several years in different places in and out of Nairobi, and they work for all spectra, not just 2.4GHz.
My 10 cents :o)
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Lol, I don't live in Nairobi! I just have my 'tentacles' around there... :)
mmh, cool. I find it ironical that much of nairobi does not get to enjoy wifi like the rest of the country does, as early as last year i was doing 14Mbps on butterfly in malindi. never thought of nairobi since then. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang@gmail.com>wrote:
Lol, I don't live in Nairobi! I just have my 'tentacles' around there... :)
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Very true Nyang. Just to add its better to use 5ghz for the ptp links, its less crowded or use the new ubiquiti radios the Airmax series on 2.4 in crowded (high interference areas) they have a feature they call airmax. It knocks off 1 or 2 mbps but you overcome the interference.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
Very true Nyang. Just to add its better to use 5ghz for the ptp links, its less crowded or use the new ubiquiti radios the Airmax series on 2.4 in crowded (high interference areas) they have a feature they call airmax. It knocks off 1 or 2 mbps but you overcome the interference.
Guys, I have an Internet connection somewhere in the middle of the bush and would like to "extend" this to another part where there is no CLOS. It's about 5km away. One site is on the hill, while the one I'd like to 'extend' to is downhill. What considerations do I need to make? Anyone willing to take a ride on our Cessna into the bush to do a survey?? Talk to me off list! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
is the 3 devices option available? one on the hill as a repeater.... On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
Very true Nyang. Just to add its better to use 5ghz for the ptp links, its less crowded or use the new ubiquiti radios the Airmax series on 2.4 in crowded (high interference areas) they have a feature they call airmax. It knocks off 1 or 2 mbps but you overcome the interference.
Guys,
I have an Internet connection somewhere in the middle of the bush and would like to "extend" this to another part where there is no CLOS. It's about 5km away. One site is on the hill, while the one I'd like to 'extend' to is downhill. What considerations do I need to make? Anyone willing to take a ride on our Cessna into the bush to do a survey??
Talk to me off list!
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