The other day a friend remarked that finding a developer is becoming increasingly difficult. Where have they disappeared to ? Is someone abducting them ? -- Ndungi Kyalo neno.co.ke ~ Your word O Lord, lights my path. On 27 July 2012 10:21, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:

Hi Again,****

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It should also be stated, must have minimum 3 years+ experience and as a result a working portfolio. No age requirement but must be grown up (had to add that)!****

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For the correct candidate, this could be a career maker.****

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Sham****

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*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Sham Kanji *Sent:* July-27-12 8:36 AM *To:* 'Skunkworks Mailing List' *Subject:* [Skunkworks] Developer Needed****

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Hi All,****

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Our company is looking for a web developer, 3 month position with possibility of full time position.****

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Requirements:****

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PHP, MySQL, jQuery, Ajax, mobile and apps, and other relevant web based requirements.****

Plus, HTML, some design skills, etc.****

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Must be available immediately and will have to be ready to go.****

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Must have good strong work ethic and abilities to work in a team environment and under strong guidance.****

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Starting 40-50K per month with increase based on performance.****

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Only serious candidates need apply: ****

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Send you CV and portfolio to shamhad@kanji.ca****

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Position is available immediately.****

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Sham****

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@Mugo I agree. Developers in Kenya are beginning to understand their worth these days. On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:11 PM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote:

Developers are there, tis just that tis difficult to find one with skills, 3 years work experience, portfolio, grown up, etc, for 40K

My two cents...

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:

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The other day a friend remarked that finding a developer is becoming increasingly difficult. Where have they disappeared to ? Is someone abducting them ?

-- Ndungi Kyalo neno.co.ke ~ Your word O Lord, lights my path.

On 27 July 2012 10:21, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:

...

Hi Again,

It should also be stated, must have minimum 3 years+ experience and as a result a working portfolio. No age requirement but must be grown up (had to add that)!

For the correct candidate, this could be a career maker.

Sham

*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Sham Kanji *Sent:* July-27-12 8:36 AM *To:* 'Skunkworks Mailing List' *Subject:* [Skunkworks] Developer Needed

Hi All,

Our company is looking for a web developer, 3 month position with possibility of full time position.

Requirements:

PHP, MySQL, jQuery, Ajax, mobile and apps, and other relevant web based requirements.

Plus, HTML, some design skills, etc.

Must be available immediately and will have to be ready to go.

Must have good strong work ethic and abilities to work in a team environment and under strong guidance.

Starting 40-50K per month with increase based on performance.

Only serious candidates need apply:

Send you CV and portfolio to shamhad@kanji.ca

Position is available immediately.

Sham

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-- Regards Brian Ngure

Hi True, developers are there, but to be honest their quality is really low, a little dissapointing and they are not a serious bunch (some don't know what ping is!). Back in the late 90s to the early 2000s there were few, but very, very good developers who learnt how to develop because they wanted to and were serious about it (coding wasn't cool and was unheard of those days of c++ for windows, paradox db, dbase iii and iv, pc interrupts, register variables etc), I remember a time where to get into computer science in uni required higher KCSE results than medicine. Then came this huge and massive wave of people who wanted to be programmers because either it was cool, everyone was dong it or it was "marketable", or maybe they wanted to be like so and so, and sadly these people form most of the developers around applying for jobs today. Short of the long, you will get lots of people who say they can do php, mysql, joomla, wordpress, blah blah (the popular things) and when you sit with them they can't install xampp or *really* code and most are just part of the coder fab group. Ask for Python programmers (the less popular but equally powerful) and you get people who decided to learn development in Python because it is what they wanted to do, rather than learnt to code php because everyone else is doing it or they heard that it is marketable. You will find them (less known languages group) a lot more skilled and serious. Now those are few and far between. Sad but good luck! J On 27 July 2012 15:53, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:

The other day a friend remarked that finding a developer is becoming increasingly difficult. Where have they disappeared to ? Is someone abducting them ?

-- Ndungi Kyalo neno.co.ke ~ Your word O Lord, lights my path.

On 27 July 2012 10:21, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:

...

Hi Again,

It should also be stated, must have minimum 3 years+ experience and as a result a working portfolio. No age requirement but must be grown up (had to add that)!

For the correct candidate, this could be a career maker.

Sham

From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Sham Kanji Sent: July-27-12 8:36 AM To: 'Skunkworks Mailing List' Subject: [Skunkworks] Developer Needed

Hi All,

Our company is looking for a web developer, 3 month position with possibility of full time position.

Requirements:

PHP, MySQL, jQuery, Ajax, mobile and apps, and other relevant web based requirements.

Plus, HTML, some design skills, etc.

Must be available immediately and will have to be ready to go.

Must have good strong work ethic and abilities to work in a team environment and under strong guidance.

Starting 40-50K per month with increase based on performance.

Only serious candidates need apply:

Send you CV and portfolio to shamhad@kanji.ca

Position is available immediately.

Sham

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:-) On 8 August 2012 16:19, Benjamin <anangwe@gmail.com> wrote:

lets not worry jangita the real programmers are the ones

fighting ulcers and wake up at midnight. they still exist

and never give up...

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*the real programmers are the ones fighting ulcers and wake up at midnight.*

No Anangwe. On the contrary, for their own good and that of their loved ones these guys are cut for a different profession. Or same profession with a slight change of attitude towards life. Unless there's a pun I missed there? I think we ought to erase this picture from our minds that a programmer (a good one) is a guy (always a guy) without a life - he is unmarried; he couldnt even date the geeky-girl; he is heavily unkempt; sometimes suicidal; zero social skills; he speaks machine-code or meme, either way not coherent to the average/normal human; ath31st or w0rse etc The really good programmers I have met, were an easy hilarious offline bunch. And some are ladies, very chic-ly ! While at it, check out the Perl inventor guy. -- Ndungi Kyalo neno.co.ke ~ Your word O Lord, lights my $PATH.

Something is going on..we have an interesting problem with good network guys too....Kenyans especially politicians tend to talk talk of how good people we have until you go out looking for them...l no I don't mean guys to pull and run cables and do some connection to an ISP....I mean a guy to advise a hospital on how networks play in the patient care ecosystem, how to integrate their billing, link their satellite hospitals securely, doctors get fancy alerts, or governments or damn isp's still in the 18th century... Sent from my iPad On 8 Aug 2012, at 16:13, Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

True, developers are there, but to be honest their quality is really low, a little dissapointing and they are not a serious bunch (some don't know what ping is!). Back in the late 90s to the early 2000s there were few, but very, very good developers who learnt how to develop because they wanted to and were serious about it (coding wasn't cool and was unheard of those days of c++ for windows, paradox db, dbase iii and iv, pc interrupts, register variables etc), I remember a time where to get into computer science in uni required higher KCSE results than medicine.

Then came this huge and massive wave of people who wanted to be programmers because either it was cool, everyone was dong it or it was "marketable", or maybe they wanted to be like so and so, and sadly these people form most of the developers around applying for jobs today.

Short of the long, you will get lots of people who say they can do php, mysql, joomla, wordpress, blah blah (the popular things) and when you sit with them they can't install xampp or *really* code and most are just part of the coder fab group. Ask for Python programmers (the less popular but equally powerful) and you get people who decided to learn development in Python because it is what they wanted to do, rather than learnt to code php because everyone else is doing it or they heard that it is marketable. You will find them (less known languages group) a lot more skilled and serious. Now those are few and far between.

Sad but good luck!

J

On 27 July 2012 15:53, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The other day a friend remarked that finding a developer is becoming increasingly difficult. Where have they disappeared to ? Is someone abducting them ?

-- Ndungi Kyalo neno.co.ke ~ Your word O Lord, lights my path.

On 27 July 2012 10:21, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:

...

Hi Again,

It should also be stated, must have minimum 3 years+ experience and as a result a working portfolio. No age requirement but must be grown up (had to add that)!

For the correct candidate, this could be a career maker.

Sham

From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Sham Kanji Sent: July-27-12 8:36 AM To: 'Skunkworks Mailing List' Subject: [Skunkworks] Developer Needed

Hi All,

Our company is looking for a web developer, 3 month position with possibility of full time position.

Requirements:

PHP, MySQL, jQuery, Ajax, mobile and apps, and other relevant web based requirements.

Plus, HTML, some design skills, etc.

Must be available immediately and will have to be ready to go.

Must have good strong work ethic and abilities to work in a team environment and under strong guidance.

Starting 40-50K per month with increase based on performance.

Only serious candidates need apply:

Send you CV and portfolio to shamhad@kanji.ca

Position is available immediately.

Sham

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