*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:* - *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?* *Thanks.* *Jay*
Depends. http://www.quora.com/Is-the-online-Masters-degree-in-Computer-Science-to-be-... http://www.quora.com/Is-it-worth-it-to-get-a-masters-in-software-engineering... On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Jayden Brayden via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:*
- *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?*
*Thanks.*
*Jay*
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Jay, In Kenya employers don't take them seriously. Have you been in an interview & when you say you have a masters from UON for example interviewers probe you further to see if you know the names of lecturers? This is common especially for masters & PHDs. That's how serious Kenyans are with where you got your papers from. My thoughts. James Sent from a mobile device On May 11, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jayden Brayden via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:*
- *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?*
*Thanks.*
*Jay*
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James, You have raised another issue in that Kenya Interview panels do not know how to interview or the results are already predetermined. That is why you get some of this funny interview questions / criteria. GOK has established a qualifications framework that we are all supposed to follow. If CHE has approved a degree it matches all the other approved degrees no matter what an interview panelist thinks. Regards, Alex From: James Kagwe via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 12:06 PM To: Skunkworks Forum; Jayden Brayden Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] How do employers view online degrees? Jay, In Kenya employers don't take them seriously. Have you been in an interview & when you say you have a masters from UON for example interviewers probe you further to see if you know the names of lecturers? This is common especially for masters & PHDs. That's how serious Kenyans are with where you got your papers from. My thoughts. James Sent from a mobile device On May 11, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jayden Brayden via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question. So my question is: * Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus? * Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees? Thanks. Jay _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Problem is you might never get to the interview stage...My thinking is just to be able to demonstrate what you have/can do. Papers are just to get you past the shortlisting stage. Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 4:14 PM, awatila--- via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
James,
You have raised another issue in that Kenya Interview panels do not know how to interview or the results are already predetermined. That is why you get some of this funny interview questions / criteria.
GOK has established a qualifications framework that we are all supposed to follow. If CHE has approved a degree it matches all the other approved degrees no matter what an interview panelist thinks.
Regards,
Alex
*From:* James Kagwe via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 12:06 PM *To:* Skunkworks Forum; Jayden Brayden *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] How do employers view online degrees?
Jay, In Kenya employers don't take them seriously. Have you been in an interview & when you say you have a masters from UON for example interviewers probe you further to see if you know the names of lecturers? This is common especially for masters & PHDs.
That's how serious Kenyans are with where you got your papers from. My thoughts.
James
Sent from a mobile device
On May 11, 2015 9:51 AM, "Jayden Brayden via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:*
- *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?*
*Thanks.*
*Jay*
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Would advise you to do two things * Check the ranking of the degree on the UK Academic Quality Assurance Agency website * Check with Commission for Higher Education – Once CHE approves a degree all Kenyan employers are bound to accept them. If you have not made a final decision consider UNISA from SA which Kenyans are more familiar with Regards, Alex From: Jayden Brayden via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:49 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: [Skunkworks] How do employers view online degrees? I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question. So my question is: * Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus? * Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees? Thanks. Jay
You can also choose a college or university which has affiliation to a Kenyan college. E.g university of Sunderland has Intel college in Kenya. This way your course work is supervised by a local institutions. My thoughts. Oliver On May 11, 2015 3:44 PM, "awatila--- via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Would advise you to do two things
· Check the ranking of the degree on the UK Academic Quality Assurance Agency website
· Check with Commission for Higher Education – Once CHE approves a degree all Kenyan employers are bound to accept them.
If you have not made a final decision consider UNISA from SA which Kenyans are more familiar with
Regards,
Alex
*From:* Jayden Brayden via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:49 AM *To:* Skunkworks forum *Subject:* [Skunkworks] How do employers view online degrees?
*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:*
- *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?*
*Thanks.*
*Jay*
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@Jayden, Ask many in the forum have said, it all depends on the college. Some are really good, others are just bogus. But in my opinion, in a discipline such as IT or software engineering, the online courses may actually offer better training and learning than the local counterparts. While the method of study is different, the quality of courses and the examinations taken tend to be similar if not the same as the ones taken by full timers. Good courses will definitely take a longer time than the full time equivalent, and you will need more hardwork and discipline. Depending on the country you wish to study in, there will always be a 'CHE' equivalent, start there and try and find if the college is legit or just another Kenya Aviation. The University of London's may colleges offer some of the best distance learning and online course, and I would recommend you look at their offerings as well if you have not made your choice and cast it in stone. I myself did a distance course at the London School of Economics and Political Science, and I haven't had any issues with employers, though the organizations I have worked for have tended to be international and thus do not display the bias towards local colleges that I assume natively Kenyan companies would. I may say at some point the foreign degree may have given me an edge over candidates with local papers. But thats me and everyone's circumstances differ. The bottom line be good at what you do and be able to show and talk it, and also a long work experience with demonstrable milestones doesn't hurt. On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Oliver Ndegwa via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
You can also choose a college or university which has affiliation to a Kenyan college. E.g university of Sunderland has Intel college in Kenya. This way your course work is supervised by a local institutions.
My thoughts. Oliver On May 11, 2015 3:44 PM, "awatila--- via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Would advise you to do two things
· Check the ranking of the degree on the UK Academic Quality Assurance Agency website
· Check with Commission for Higher Education – Once CHE approves a degree all Kenyan employers are bound to accept them.
If you have not made a final decision consider UNISA from SA which Kenyans are more familiar with
Regards,
Alex
*From:* Jayden Brayden via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:49 AM *To:* Skunkworks forum *Subject:* [Skunkworks] How do employers view online degrees?
*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:*
- *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?*
*Thanks.*
*Jay*
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Thanks to all the interesting feedback. This was eye opening. Regards, JB On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Jayden,
Ask many in the forum have said, it all depends on the college. Some are really good, others are just bogus. But in my opinion, in a discipline such as IT or software engineering, the online courses may actually offer better training and learning than the local counterparts. While the method of study is different, the quality of courses and the examinations taken tend to be similar if not the same as the ones taken by full timers. Good courses will definitely take a longer time than the full time equivalent, and you will need more hardwork and discipline.
Depending on the country you wish to study in, there will always be a 'CHE' equivalent, start there and try and find if the college is legit or just another Kenya Aviation.
The University of London's may colleges offer some of the best distance learning and online course, and I would recommend you look at their offerings as well if you have not made your choice and cast it in stone.
I myself did a distance course at the London School of Economics and Political Science, and I haven't had any issues with employers, though the organizations I have worked for have tended to be international and thus do not display the bias towards local colleges that I assume natively Kenyan companies would. I may say at some point the foreign degree may have given me an edge over candidates with local papers.
But thats me and everyone's circumstances differ. The bottom line be good at what you do and be able to show and talk it, and also a long work experience with demonstrable milestones doesn't hurt.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Oliver Ndegwa via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
You can also choose a college or university which has affiliation to a Kenyan college. E.g university of Sunderland has Intel college in Kenya. This way your course work is supervised by a local institutions.
My thoughts. Oliver On May 11, 2015 3:44 PM, "awatila--- via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Would advise you to do two things
· Check the ranking of the degree on the UK Academic Quality Assurance Agency website
· Check with Commission for Higher Education – Once CHE approves a degree all Kenyan employers are bound to accept them.
If you have not made a final decision consider UNISA from SA which Kenyans are more familiar with
Regards,
Alex
*From:* Jayden Brayden via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke]
*Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:49 AM *To:* Skunkworks forum *Subject:* [Skunkworks] How do employers view online degrees?
*I am preparing to do an online Msc in Software Engineering at the University of Liverpool. I have chosen to do it online since I move a lot between countries, so getting a Masters degree from a brick-and-mortar campus is out of the question.So my question is:*
- *Do employers view degrees earned online differently than degrees earned on campus?* - *Is there a Skunk here that has experience learning online and willing to share his/her experience regarding online degrees?*
*Thanks.*
*Jay*
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