Re: [Skunkworks] Microsoft Windows 8
I was at the Microsoft Windows 8 launch last night and I was very impressed, having been an anti-M$ crusader for all this time. I have a few predictions and maybe we have talked about them in this forum, but having seen it I just couldn't help myself:
Ha, Okech being impressed by Windows products. Thats petty interesting as I never thought I will hear that from you. Agree though, petty neat when you check it initially, but a pain if you need to do something more involving fast. I guess people who use Windows will acclimatise to it petty fast, but if your only time with Linux is once in a while, it may get painful.
1) M$ is definitely getting its groove back and will eat a big chunk of what was 'stolen' from it in the desktop market share. The pricing is right and the product is awesome. The may not stop the surge of Apple (maybe am just a fun) but they will readily take back from the UNIX novices (the hardcore will never move) - I see the market share going back into the 90+ percentage (85?)
Window market share on desktop and notebooks have never gone below 90% I think. I think even if there is far more OSX around, the Window ecosystem has grown proportionally faster and preserved that market share. Window 8 will easily keep that share in my opinion.
2) The phone market, I see Nokia having made a very good gamble (+all the vendors who will jump in - Samsung & HTC are here too!) I see Windows phone eating away the market share of Android, though not a lot to make Android crumble, but I see them overtaking Apple on this front (since Apple is still a niche product - may not actually go down, but Android's loss will be M$ gain)
I would still bet my money that Nokia has no where to go but down. They poisoned their relationship with carrier and that is akin of Microsoft pissing on the Wintel hardware company. Their other problem is, in my opinion, despite window 8 being a great phone OS finally, they are too late in the market. I would say the smart phone market is now mature and not driven by the aesthetic of the interface, but on the hard reality of how deep one pocket is. Early adopters tend not to be sensitive to price, but when the masses pick up, the only property they care about is, "how much damage is this thing going to do to my pocket?". If you haven't make some money before then and try to keep the price up, you are done as far as market share is concerned. Don't think it matter to Apple though as they have learned to work with a small profitable share, but Microsoft may not have that luxury. That in turn makes Nokia odds not too attractive.
3) Tablet market will be a war between Apple and M$ - Apple will remain on top, but the big loser here will be Android, with a possible under 10% market share.
Really, 10% for Android. Will buy you tonnes of viceroy if that ever come true :) Anyway, a good read and look forward to see how it materialize
These are my 2 cents.
./Ok3ch
Muriithi
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:19:18 +0300 From: Ronnie kilel <ronniekilel@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Open source library system Message-ID: <CAH4t7YVRN2tA+n9WwujdTHskc5YmHqi0_kgfZiHjdo+ycuzmaQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
Am looking for an open source libray system any ideas?
-- Thanks
*Ronnie Kilel* ronniekilel@gmail.com
*squeaky wheel gets the grease** *
Hehehe, William, I stopped taking Viceroy, moved on to Jameson so start prepping bottles. Your take on Nokia is very agreeable, let me say I had a more of a Windows 8 thinking than of Nokia itself. It may be easy for an SIII user to buy a high end Samsung Windows 8 than maybe to go Lumia, but in the long run, Windows 8 will eat up the phone market share at a very fast rate. On the tablet, it's gonna be a no challenge. Current market shares are like 70% Apple & the rest 30%. I see Windows 8 eating away that 30% so rapidly u will be shocked, and also some of the 70% since a lot of these are people do not just want to consume content anymore, but to make it. Was interesting to hear how speaker after speaker talked how they always travel with an iPad & a laptop, but with Windows 8, this is going to drastically change, all u will need is a tablet. ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Nov 17, 2012, at 9:15 PM, William Muriithi <william.muriithi@gmail.com> wrote:
I was at the Microsoft Windows 8 launch last night and I was very impressed, having been an anti-M$ crusader for all this time. I have a few predictions and maybe we have talked about them in this forum, but having seen it I just couldn't help myself:
Ha, Okech being impressed by Windows products. Thats petty interesting as I never thought I will hear that from you. Agree though, petty neat when you check it initially, but a pain if you need to do something more involving fast. I guess people who use Windows will acclimatise to it petty fast, but if your only time with Linux is once in a while, it may get painful.
1) M$ is definitely getting its groove back and will eat a big chunk of what was 'stolen' from it in the desktop market share. The pricing is right and the product is awesome. The may not stop the surge of Apple (maybe am just a fun) but they will readily take back from the UNIX novices (the hardcore will never move) - I see the market share going back into the 90+ percentage (85?)
Window market share on desktop and notebooks have never gone below 90% I think. I think even if there is far more OSX around, the Window ecosystem has grown proportionally faster and preserved that market share. Window 8 will easily keep that share in my opinion.
2) The phone market, I see Nokia having made a very good gamble (+all the vendors who will jump in - Samsung & HTC are here too!) I see Windows phone eating away the market share of Android, though not a lot to make Android crumble, but I see them overtaking Apple on this front (since Apple is still a niche product - may not actually go down, but Android's loss will be M$ gain) I would still bet my money that Nokia has no where to go but down. They poisoned their relationship with carrier and that is akin of Microsoft pissing on the Wintel hardware company.
Their other problem is, in my opinion, despite window 8 being a great phone OS finally, they are too late in the market. I would say the smart phone market is now mature and not driven by the aesthetic of the interface, but on the hard reality of how deep one pocket is. Early adopters tend not to be sensitive to price, but when the masses pick up, the only property they care about is, "how much damage is this thing going to do to my pocket?". If you haven't make some money before then and try to keep the price up, you are done as far as market share is concerned. Don't think it matter to Apple though as they have learned to work with a small profitable share, but Microsoft may not have that luxury. That in turn makes Nokia odds not too attractive.
3) Tablet market will be a war between Apple and M$ - Apple will remain on top, but the big loser here will be Android, with a possible under 10% market share. Really, 10% for Android. Will buy you tonnes of viceroy if that ever come true :) Anyway, a good read and look forward to see how it materialize These are my 2 cents.
./Ok3ch Muriithi
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:19:18 +0300 From: Ronnie kilel <ronniekilel@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Open source library system Message-ID: <CAH4t7YVRN2tA+n9WwujdTHskc5YmHqi0_kgfZiHjdo+ycuzmaQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
Am looking for an open source libray system any ideas?
-- Thanks
*Ronnie Kilel* ronniekilel@gmail.com
*squeaky wheel gets the grease** *
If, and only if M$ decides to (I haven't checked what WindowsRT is) have a version of MS office (office15) built into the Surface, then I can see only the cult members staying behind in the iPad realm. Most others will migrate to the Surface. Surface+Office+SkyDrive is a real competition for Apple's iPad - costwise and functionality. And with this advent, very few will go for any tablets based on Android - perhaps this lot will mostly be content-creators, I am not sure. And I don't have the benefit of comparison figures like everyone else. I just know Windows Surface is a killer, which has even gotten Apple thinking/restrategizing. I don't know about Windows 8 (on the Desktop) uptake though. Price is right, but that's just because M$ has seen that there is not much that Windows 8 offers over WinXP and Win7. Personally I think Windows 8 is just another OS, but a way for M$ to make money - sell cheap, sell more. Soon we'll see Windows 9, 10, etc and nothing persuades me that things are really changing that fast. I think the major new change in Windows 8 is some obscure security (I mean it's not so obvious for a desktop user) and the integration with the "cloud" - that you can directly work with documents in the cloud. The remainder is just aesthetics and further complications of processes which were otherwise easier to accomplish in earlier versions of Windows. On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe, William, I stopped taking Viceroy, moved on to Jameson so start prepping bottles.
Your take on Nokia is very agreeable, let me say I had a more of a Windows 8 thinking than of Nokia itself. It may be easy for an SIII user to buy a high end Samsung Windows 8 than maybe to go Lumia, but in the long run, Windows 8 will eat up the phone market share at a very fast rate.
On the tablet, it's gonna be a no challenge. Current market shares are like 70% Apple & the rest 30%. I see Windows 8 eating away that 30% so rapidly u will be shocked, and also some of the 70% since a lot of these are people do not just want to consume content anymore, but to make it. Was interesting to hear how speaker after speaker talked how they always travel with an iPad & a laptop, but with Windows 8, this is going to drastically change, all u will need is a tablet.
./Ok3ch
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 17, 2012, at 9:15 PM, William Muriithi <william.muriithi@gmail.com> wrote:
I was at the Microsoft Windows 8 launch last night and I was very impressed, having been an anti-M$ crusader for all this time. I have a few predictions and maybe we have talked about them in this forum, but having seen it I just couldn't help myself:
Ha, Okech being impressed by Windows products. Thats petty interesting as I never thought I will hear that from you. Agree though, petty neat when you check it initially, but a pain if you need to do something more involving fast. I guess people who use Windows will acclimatise to it petty fast, but if your only time with Linux is once in a while, it may get painful.
1) M$ is definitely getting its groove back and will eat a big chunk of what was 'stolen' from it in the desktop market share. The pricing is right and the product is awesome. The may not stop the surge of Apple (maybe am just a fun) but they will readily take back from the UNIX novices (the hardcore will never move) - I see the market share going back into the 90+ percentage (85?)
Window market share on desktop and notebooks have never gone below 90% I think. I think even if there is far more OSX around, the Window ecosystem has grown proportionally faster and preserved that market share. Window 8 will easily keep that share in my opinion.
2) The phone market, I see Nokia having made a very good gamble (+all the vendors who will jump in - Samsung & HTC are here too!) I see Windows phone eating away the market share of Android, though not a lot to make Android crumble, but I see them overtaking Apple on this front (since Apple is still a niche product - may not actually go down, but Android's loss will be M$ gain) I would still bet my money that Nokia has no where to go but down. They poisoned their relationship with carrier and that is akin of Microsoft pissing on the Wintel hardware company.
Their other problem is, in my opinion, despite window 8 being a great phone OS finally, they are too late in the market. I would say the smart phone market is now mature and not driven by the aesthetic of the interface, but on the hard reality of how deep one pocket is. Early adopters tend not to be sensitive to price, but when the masses pick up, the only property they care about is, "how much damage is this thing going to do to my pocket?". If you haven't make some money before then and try to keep the price up, you are done as far as market share is concerned. Don't think it matter to Apple though as they have learned to work with a small profitable share, but Microsoft may not have that luxury. That in turn makes Nokia odds not too attractive.
3) Tablet market will be a war between Apple and M$ - Apple will remain on top, but the big loser here will be Android, with a possible under 10% market share. Really, 10% for Android. Will buy you tonnes of viceroy if that ever come true :) Anyway, a good read and look forward to see how it materialize These are my 2 cents.
./Ok3ch Muriithi
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:19:18 +0300 From: Ronnie kilel <ronniekilel@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Open source library system Message-ID: < CAH4t7YVRN2tA+n9WwujdTHskc5YmHqi0_kgfZiHjdo+ycuzmaQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
Am looking for an open source libray system any ideas?
-- Thanks
*Ronnie Kilel* ronniekilel@gmail.com
*squeaky wheel gets the grease** *
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