Yesterday Mwalimu Mati contacted me about the *temporary* closure of the Mars Group Website. (http://marsgroupkenya.org/new/) . Reports on the internet that the site had been closed due to a developer creating an app that gathered information from the site. Mati says the site was closed 10 days before the developer raised the above concerns. However, the main issue here is that the developer had developed an App that used information from Mars Group, and had not bothered to inform Mars Group that he was working on such an application. The application , would have drawn more traffic from the website. Mati says this would account to higher hosting fees for the 2.3 TB that of information that Mars Group has collected so far. Furthermore, it was odd that the developer then wrongly heaped accusations on Mars Group that it was trying to keep information that belonged to the Kenyan public away from the public. This includes budget items for the last several years that Mars Group has digitised from hard copies. Developers also need to abide by ethics when developing apps that access data from other people's websites, and should have even the slightest courtesy of even informing them. As the developer realised, by informing Mars Group, he would have been aware of their planned changes to their website. -- with Regards: The Chinese are known to be entrepreneurs, and coupled with some imagination, are now playing the role of nature in food and beverage production. http://gramware.blogspot.com/2011/01/chinese-way-to-become-imaginative.html
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Developers also need to abide by ethics when developing apps that access data from other people's websites, and should have even the slightest courtesy of even informing them.
There is no ethics issue here. Why doesnt the guy of the website also demand that google, yahoo etc. to inform him when they crawl and index his website ...as they are also using his bandwidth ? If you put information in the public domain you have to be ready to have it used, otherwise don't have it public . Which is what the guy has done now (closed the website).
some come to index, some come via links to read inseresting stuff, othere yet come to pick on informarion and lastly, some come to download information. All these sir are visitors to your website, which is why you host it in the first place. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:26 PM, <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Developers also need to abide by ethics when developing apps that access data from other people's websites, and should have even the slightest courtesy of even informing them.
There is no ethics issue here.
Why doesnt the guy of the website also demand that google, yahoo etc. to inform him when they crawl and index his website ...as they are also using his bandwidth ?
If you put information in the public domain you have to be ready to have it used, otherwise don't have it public . Which is what the guy has done now (closed the website). _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
...I don't quite uderstand what mwalimu mati is complaining about..wasn't the website there so that people can get information from it? And further more, isn't mars group some sort of "kenyan wikileaks", meaning that the more information that is pulled from the site the better (for them)? On 1/14/11, Collins Areba <castorkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
some come to index, some come via links to read inseresting stuff, othere yet come to pick on informarion and lastly, some come to download information. All these sir are visitors to your website, which is why you host it in the first place.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:26 PM, <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Developers also need to abide by ethics when developing apps that access data from other people's websites, and should have even the slightest courtesy of even informing them.
There is no ethics issue here.
Why doesnt the guy of the website also demand that google, yahoo etc. to inform him when they crawl and index his website ...as they are also using his bandwidth ?
If you put information in the public domain you have to be ready to have it used, otherwise don't have it public . Which is what the guy has done now (closed the website). _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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