Is it me or are there just too many lotteries/money Games? every time i switch on my telly am confronted by a different "charismatic" character promising to make me a millionaire if I answer/SMS some dumb question! are these the new ponzi/pyramid schemes that prop up before elections? who are behind them? who much are they worth? is gambling even an ECONOMIC activity? what kind of morals is the Gava teaching our kids? i smell a rat..Guys working for PRSP's enlighten us.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
Is it me or are there just too many lotteries/money Games? every time i switch on my telly am confronted by a different "charismatic" character promising to make me a millionaire if I answer/SMS some dumb question! are these the new ponzi/pyramid schemes that prop up before elections? who are behind them? who much are they worth? is gambling even an ECONOMIC activity? what kind of morals is the Gava teaching our kids? i smell a rat..Guys working for PRSP's enlighten us.
And me is wondering: Are these guys' computers (the ones handling the SMS) directly wired to KRA systems for calculation of income tax from the millions they make from these KES 60 smses? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!! There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob. Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!! Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling. Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ??? Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ??? == Who checks if such things are really legit ??? I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007 On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business , On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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On 24 November 2010 16:46, BRANTON OBWARI <bruceobwari@gmail.com> wrote:
am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business ,
And this is what they mean when they say Mobile Technology is a killer Technology
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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Is Gambling an economic activity? does it create real GDP/wealth? in economic terms? I think it creates real GREED, not wealth On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM, BRANTON OBWARI <bruceobwari@gmail.com>wrote:
am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business ,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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as with pyramid schemes, once people lose lots of money they will look back and will be terrified of any short code after that....so in a sense the world always checks and balances out greed. I asked this in another forum and didnt get one answer, does anyone know a real physical person close to them who has won a car or cash this year? On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
Is Gambling an economic activity? does it create real GDP/wealth? in economic terms? I think it creates real GREED, not wealth
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM, BRANTON OBWARI <bruceobwari@gmail.com>wrote:
am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business ,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
as with pyramid schemes, once people lose lots of money they will look back and will be terrified of any short code after that....so in a sense the world always checks and balances out greed.
I asked this in another forum and didnt get one answer, does anyone know a real physical person close to them who has won a car or cash this year?
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
Is Gambling an economic activity? does it create real GDP/wealth? in economic terms? I think it creates real GREED, not wealth
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM, BRANTON OBWARI <bruceobwari@gmail.com>wrote:
am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business ,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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I think we are being duped while scavengers out there are just taking innocent peoples chums yaaaaaaaaani thats broad day& night thuggery On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
as with pyramid schemes, once people lose lots of money they will look back and will be terrified of any short code after that....so in a sense the world always checks and balances out greed.
I asked this in another forum and didnt get one answer, does anyone know a real physical person close to them who has won a car or cash this year?
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
Is Gambling an economic activity? does it create real GDP/wealth? in economic terms? I think it creates real GREED, not wealth
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM, BRANTON OBWARI <bruceobwari@gmail.com>wrote:
am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business ,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
==
Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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In my view this games are really not lotteries in the real sense as one radio station wants guys who have sent < 30 sms's are the only ones who get the call up. I always thought somebody with 1 sms or 100 should all be entitled to the price. Next Q. the way they choose the winners is it really random access or sequential? * If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. - Emerson M. Pugh *
You have to be greedy to get ripped off easily, the less greedy you are the harder it gets for you to be ripped off. ANd I did not see any wealthy perosn who won their way to wealth, at least, you can cheat your way to wealth, but winning? Passing a camel through the eye of a needle will be easier
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO
24hr Casino. <LOL!!> Yawa, this is just soooo true!!! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
@Kris, I too heard that statment on Radio and I was like DAMNN!! Now they tell u how many SMMWESES u have to send to stand a chance of winning? (Above 30.) What happened to good old lady luck? Way I see it, winners are hand picked in these promos. Me thots On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO
24hr Casino. <LOL!!>
Yawa, this is just soooo true!!!
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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And how sure are we the people who get a call are not paid to appear on Tele to say its reaI...Just like those KNHCR witnesses On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kris, I too heard that statment on Radio and I was like DAMNN!! Now they tell u how many SMMWESES u have to send to stand a chance of winning? (Above 30.) What happened to good old lady luck? Way I see it, winners are hand picked in these promos.
Me thots
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>
wrote:
These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO
24hr Casino. <LOL!!>
Yawa, this is just soooo true!!!
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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These amounts to money laundering from Supa Pesa, Zawadi 2929 i think the Next one will be X-mass PaP. Those guys at Zawadi 2929 say its Verified by the betting control Board that means the government has officially allowed Media houses to Start unlicenced Betting Biz On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO
24hr Casino. <LOL!!>
Yawa, this is just soooo true!!!
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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<Thought> Lets start our own, we will give out prices worth 50 million monthly, prices would be houses worth- 4m x 4, land - 1m x 10, Cars - 1m x 20. All what we need is to sign contracts with the owners of this goods that when we get a winner we will buy then so no money changes hands. The part that we will spend will be to advertise, we need 2,500,000 sms at 20/- to give out the prices. Can we get more than that number of sms per month? </Thought> -- * If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. - Emerson M. Pugh *
@Kris, my bet is you can. talk about social Engineering! These guys know how the typical Kenyan thinks and they are cashing in big time!! On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:13 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
<Thought> Lets start our own, we will give out prices worth 50 million monthly, prices would be houses worth- 4m x 4, land - 1m x 10, Cars - 1m x 20. All what we need is to sign contracts with the owners of this goods that when we get a winner we will buy then so no money changes hands. The part that we will spend will be to advertise, we need 2,500,000 sms at 20/- to give out the prices. Can we get more than that number of sms per month? </Thought>
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Is there like a % that they should pay out coz if they ( Citizen ) rake in 12M and give 1 M they get to keep like 11M not bad huh.... On 24 November 2010 18:17, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kris, my bet is you can. talk about social Engineering! These guys know how the typical Kenyan thinks and they are cashing in big time!!
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:13 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
<Thought> Lets start our own, we will give out prices worth 50 million monthly, prices would be houses worth- 4m x 4, land - 1m x 10, Cars - 1m x 20. All what we need is to sign contracts with the owners of this goods that when we get a winner we will buy then so no money changes hands. The part that we will spend will be to advertise, we need 2,500,000 sms at 20/- to give out the prices. Can we get more than that number of sms per month? </Thought>
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I agree with the social engineering line of thought. . . . . Remember the 6969 one? The winner, a supposed IDP is purported to have taken a loan so he could invest 50k in the game! On 11/24/10, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there like a % that they should pay out coz if they ( Citizen ) rake in 12M and give 1 M they get to keep like 11M not bad huh....
On 24 November 2010 18:17, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kris, my bet is you can. talk about social Engineering! These guys know how the typical Kenyan thinks and they are cashing in big time!!
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:13 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
<Thought> Lets start our own, we will give out prices worth 50 million monthly, prices would be houses worth- 4m x 4, land - 1m x 10, Cars - 1m x 20. All what we need is to sign contracts with the owners of this goods that when we get a winner we will buy then so no money changes hands. The part that we will spend will be to advertise, we need 2,500,000 sms at 20/- to give out the prices. Can we get more than that number of sms per month? </Thought>
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You can start your own, issue is that you have to deposit the whole lump sum prize money with the Betting and Controls board, then there is the advertising. Anyway, these things are very legal, and if you can see they are ripping you off, the don't participate like me, just like you never bother with a pyramid scheme ./Ok3ch Sent from my iPad On Nov 24, 2010, at 19:16, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with the social engineering line of thought. . . . . Remember the 6969 one? The winner, a supposed IDP is purported to have taken a loan so he could invest 50k in the game!
On 11/24/10, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there like a % that they should pay out coz if they ( Citizen ) rake in 12M and give 1 M they get to keep like 11M not bad huh....
On 24 November 2010 18:17, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kris, my bet is you can. talk about social Engineering! These guys know how the typical Kenyan thinks and they are cashing in big time!!
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:13 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
<Thought> Lets start our own, we will give out prices worth 50 million monthly, prices would be houses worth- 4m x 4, land - 1m x 10, Cars - 1m x 20. All what we need is to sign contracts with the owners of this goods that when we get a winner we will buy then so no money changes hands. The part that we will spend will be to advertise, we need 2,500,000 sms at 20/- to give out the prices. Can we get more than that number of sms per month? </Thought>
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LIKE MINDED SKUNKERS, can someone explore a legal option for sueing these sharks? (plus media houses) e.g "carelessly advertising gambling to minors" ..."peddling greed" etc...we can sue them for a cool 50 mil and use it to hold the biggest barcamp ever! On 11/24/10, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
You can start your own, issue is that you have to deposit the whole lump sum prize money with the Betting and Controls board, then there is the advertising. Anyway, these things are very legal, and if you can see they are ripping you off, the don't participate like me, just like you never bother with a pyramid scheme
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On Nov 24, 2010, at 19:16, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with the social engineering line of thought. . . . . Remember the 6969 one? The winner, a supposed IDP is purported to have taken a loan so he could invest 50k in the game!
On 11/24/10, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there like a % that they should pay out coz if they ( Citizen ) rake in 12M and give 1 M they get to keep like 11M not bad huh....
On 24 November 2010 18:17, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kris, my bet is you can. talk about social Engineering! These guys know how the typical Kenyan thinks and they are cashing in big time!!
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:13 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
<Thought> Lets start our own, we will give out prices worth 50 million monthly, prices would be houses worth- 4m x 4, land - 1m x 10, Cars - 1m x 20. All what we need is to sign contracts with the owners of this goods that when we get a winner we will buy then so no money changes hands. The part that we will spend will be to advertise, we need 2,500,000 sms at 20/- to give out the prices. Can we get more than that number of sms per month? </Thought>
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I heard the lottery show on Citizen makes them a cool 12M daily On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
These SHARKS are taking our hard earned $$ for free..no one even in my extended's extended family/friend has worn a dime! Kenya is now a 24hr CASINO
24hr Casino. <LOL!!>
Yawa, this is just soooo true!!!
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Seriously;; I don't know a single person who has won;; And not even the relatives of my friends.. And that's like an expontial of more than 1000 peeps !
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I know three people who won in the 6969...... 1.One guy used 30k 2.Second Guy used 80k 3.Third guy actually won twice he spent 150k in the game. In the 6969 case the 1 million price money was not luck but the guy with the highest entries.Someone must have leaked that information to them in the initial days of the game. My buddy was telling me he "invested" 150k and got 2 million. The sms based game has become very popular because 6969 raked 2 billion plus in the 90 days.even if you deduct 500 million on prizes,licence and media....the profit is still handsome. But this lotteries can also be a source of money laundering! Its a pity that our country is slowly turning into a gambling nation supported by Corporates and again the media. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
as with pyramid schemes, once people lose lots of money they will look back and will be terrified of any short code after that....so in a sense the world always checks and balances out greed.
I asked this in another forum and didnt get one answer, does anyone know a real physical person close to them who has won a car or cash this year?
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
Is Gambling an economic activity? does it create real GDP/wealth? in economic terms? I think it creates real GREED, not wealth
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM, BRANTON OBWARI <bruceobwari@gmail.com>wrote:
am actually enjoying this ,am reliably informed that guys in traditional lottery business are worried cz this sms thing is killing the business ,
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:39 AM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com>wrote:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PRSP's (they are just doing business) BUT I WANT those behind these money laundering scams exposed before they take away another 40 bn from the economy like they did with the panda mbegus of 2007
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Zawadi 29 ! 29 ! Cash kila siku !!!!
There is this one where apparently you have to call; and the moment the phone connects; they kula you 60 bob.
Then your told; veri sorry; you are the 3rd caller, you have to be the 5th caller; Please hangup and quickly try again !!!
Meanwhile; the lady on TV acts as if people are not calling.
Surely; if you call several times and you are not the "lucky" 5th caller; then who is the 5th caller ???
Is there really any ?? Or is the program limited to give auto-responses for 1st to 3rd caller until they make a certain amount of cash;; and then they open 4th-6th caller lines ???
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Who checks if such things are really legit ???
I see some dude with a briefcase calling themselves "betting control" - but the looks on their faces signals a very well greased control - I am sorry to say I dont trust them at all [?].
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Anthony Lenya -
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Dennis Kioko -
Erick Njenga -
Ericko -
Joram Mwinamo -
Joseph McDonald -
kris njoroge -
moses njuguna -
ndungu stephen -
Odhiambo Washington -
Okechukwu -
Stephen Ndungu
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steve kyengo -
Wanjiru Njoroge -
Watson Kambo