
Just came across a news story<http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/siriously-good-apples-new-iphone-4s-personal-assistant-20111018-1lu7h.html>about some of the ridiculous answers that app is giving to certain questions... This one is my favourite: *Q: What are you wearing?* A: You have the wrong personal assistant. A: Why do people keep asking me this? A: Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel. Nice, huh?

Am really tired of these comments on how Siri is not working the way people want it to, yet they see clearly the word 'beta' on it. If only you looked at what it can do then you'll never think otherwise, or is it a case on people expecting it to work like 'voice commands' which is so limited. This is AI peeps! ./Ok3ch On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just came across a news story about some of the ridiculous answers that app is giving to certain questions...
This one is my favourite:
Q: What are you wearing? A: You have the wrong personal assistant. A: Why do people keep asking me this? A: Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel. Nice, huh?
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Ok3ch, Please sell me your iPhone4 is you already have 4S! I think I need to try an iPhone too. Please don't just get pissed off when some people talk ill of your *cult* :-) On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:02, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am really tired of these comments on how Siri is not working the way people want it to, yet they see clearly the word 'beta' on it. If only you looked at what it can do then you'll never think otherwise, or is it a case on people expecting it to work like 'voice commands' which is so limited. This is AI peeps!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just came across a news story about some of the ridiculous answers that app is giving to certain questions...
This one is my favourite:
Q: What are you wearing? A: You have the wrong personal assistant. A: Why do people keep asking me this? A: Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel. Nice, huh?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw Just to mix things up a little bit :) ====================== Andrew Wafula Wapakala Web: www.wertsoft.com MSN: a_wafula@hotmail.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/awafula Blog: http://thewert.blogspot.com/ ========================================================================== If you have made mistakes...there is always another chance for you... you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down. - Mary Pickford "Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People" On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok3ch,
Please sell me your iPhone4 is you already have 4S! I think I need to try an iPhone too.
Please don't just get pissed off when some people talk ill of your *cult* :-)
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:02, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am really tired of these comments on how Siri is not working the way people want it to, yet they see clearly the word 'beta' on it. If only you looked at what it can do then you'll never think otherwise, or is it a case on people expecting it to work like 'voice commands' which is so limited. This is AI peeps!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just came across a news story about some of the ridiculous answers that app is giving to certain questions...
This one is my favourite:
Q: What are you wearing? A: You have the wrong personal assistant. A: Why do people keep asking me this? A: Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel. Nice, huh?
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The IPhone is really a remarkable device. I guess you need to use it to appreciate it. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Just to mix things up a little bit :)
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok3ch,
Please sell me your iPhone4 is you already have 4S! I think I need to try an iPhone too.
Please don't just get pissed off when some people talk ill of your *cult* :-)
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 09:02, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am really tired of these comments on how Siri is not working the way people want it to, yet they see clearly the word 'beta' on it. If only you looked at what it can do then you'll never think otherwise, or is it a case on people expecting it to work like 'voice commands' which is so limited. This is AI peeps!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just came across a news story about some of the ridiculous answers that app is giving to certain questions...
This one is my favourite:
Q: What are you wearing? A: You have the wrong personal assistant. A: Why do people keep asking me this? A: Aluminosilicate glass and stainless steel. Nice, huh?
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On the contrary, the answers are not ridiculous. Siri is quite intelligent. Below is a sample of how clever our assistant can be. http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/12/siri-weird-things-iphone-4s

Alas, I'm afraid the queen's language failed me, by ridiculous I meant ridiculously funny. My brief stint in the Stanford AI class led me to believe that it would take a mad genius with a warped sense of humour to make Siri give some of those answers. It is that warped humour that caught my eye, I haven't stopped smiling since I read those answers. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
On the contrary, the answers are not ridiculous. Siri is quite intelligent.
Below is a sample of how clever our assistant can be.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/12/siri-weird-things-iphone-4s
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Alas, I'm afraid the queen's language failed me, by ridiculous I meant ridiculously funny. My brief stint in the Stanford AI class led me to believe that it would take a mad genius with a warped sense of humour to make Siri give some of those answers.
It is that warped humour that caught my eye, I haven't stopped smiling since I read those answers.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
On the contrary, the answers are not ridiculous. Siri is quite intelligent.
Below is a sample of how clever our assistant can be.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/12/siri-weird-things-iphone-4s
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:43, Andrew Wafula <awafula@gmail.com> wrote:
Android guys have Iris after 8 hours :) http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/17/iris-is-sort-of-siri-for-android/?utm_sourc...
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Personally i have a feeling that this IRIS <-> SIRI debacle will only highlight one important thing: The difference between the two ecosystems, the difference between commercial and open source. (ok, and Commercial open source) For instance, wherever SIRI is getting its data from, If not Wikipedia makes IRIS already ahead of the two in quantity (and quality) of feedback. Personally, Id put my money on IRIS. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:41 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Androids Iris:
I R I S is S I R I in reverse:)
S I R I O U S L Y ????
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It is not just a matter of where the data comes, it is a matter of the quality of the system and how intelligent it is. There is tons on data in the world, and Android has not done much with it before the advent of Siri. There is also the quality of the hardware and how tightly knit the hardware is to the software and the infrastructure behind it. With s much fragmentation in Android, I don't see how they can come up with something as intelligent as Siri. Each handset maker and carrier will want their custom system, and it will just never work in the end. Something as simple has having uniformity in Firmware updates has proved challenging to Android. Sometimes all this talk about open source is overrated. While open source is sometimes good, when it does not work it simply doesn't. And then we will have miscreants introducing trojans in the Android Market Place and causing security issues. Recently someone introduced a fake Netflix App in the Android Market Place and the Android clan was not the wiser, downloaded it in the millions. Sometimes closed works better. My money is on iOS, as it has been in the last 4 years. And I have not been disappointed.

FYI @peter my opinions on the android are purely as far as this app is concerned. I am one of those that have never understood the appeal of huge screen real estate and touch. I tried android for a few months and gave up, im now back to my mulika mwizi but seriously in a dilemma on what to opt for between the e7 (yeah, i know the rest have 60000apps but when i had android i installed a few and hardly used them anyway) and the bold3. My point is, for an app done in 8 hours, Iris is way ahead (comparatively) of IRIS. give it the man hours they spent on SIRI. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
It is not just a matter of where the data comes, it is a matter of the quality of the system and how intelligent it is. There is tons on data in the world, and Android has not done much with it before the advent of Siri.
There is also the quality of the hardware and how tightly knit the hardware is to the software and the infrastructure behind it. With s much fragmentation in Android, I don't see how they can come up with something as intelligent as Siri. Each handset maker and carrier will want their custom system, and it will just never work in the end. Something as simple has having uniformity in Firmware updates has proved challenging to Android.
Sometimes all this talk about open source is overrated. While open source is sometimes good, when it does not work it simply doesn't.
And then we will have miscreants introducing trojans in the Android Market Place and causing security issues. Recently someone introduced a fake Netflix App in the Android Market Place and the Android clan was not the wiser, downloaded it in the millions. Sometimes closed works better.
My money is on iOS, as it has been in the last 4 years. And I have not been disappointed.
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the only application i need on my smartphone (other than ability to do push) is putty. :-) On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
FYI @peter my opinions on the android are purely as far as this app is concerned. I am one of those that have never understood the appeal of huge screen real estate and touch. I tried android for a few months and gave up, im now back to my mulika mwizi but seriously in a dilemma on what to opt for between the e7 (yeah, i know the rest have 60000apps but when i had android i installed a few and hardly used them anyway) and the bold3.
My point is, for an app done in 8 hours, Iris is way ahead (comparatively) of IRIS. give it the man hours they spent on SIRI.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It is not just a matter of where the data comes, it is a matter of the quality of the system and how intelligent it is. There is tons on data in the world, and Android has not done much with it before the advent of Siri.
There is also the quality of the hardware and how tightly knit the hardware is to the software and the infrastructure behind it. With s much fragmentation in Android, I don't see how they can come up with something as intelligent as Siri. Each handset maker and carrier will want their custom system, and it will just never work in the end. Something as simple has having uniformity in Firmware updates has proved challenging to Android.
Sometimes all this talk about open source is overrated. While open source is sometimes good, when it does not work it simply doesn't.
And then we will have miscreants introducing trojans in the Android Market Place and causing security issues. Recently someone introduced a fake Netflix App in the Android Market Place and the Android clan was not the wiser, downloaded it in the millions. Sometimes closed works better.
My money is on iOS, as it has been in the last 4 years. And I have not been disappointed.
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and a rtmp compatible viewer. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:37 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
the only application i need on my smartphone (other than ability to do push) is putty. :-)
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
FYI @peter my opinions on the android are purely as far as this app is concerned. I am one of those that have never understood the appeal of huge screen real estate and touch. I tried android for a few months and gave up, im now back to my mulika mwizi but seriously in a dilemma on what to opt for between the e7 (yeah, i know the rest have 60000apps but when i had android i installed a few and hardly used them anyway) and the bold3.
My point is, for an app done in 8 hours, Iris is way ahead (comparatively) of IRIS. give it the man hours they spent on SIRI.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It is not just a matter of where the data comes, it is a matter of the quality of the system and how intelligent it is. There is tons on data in the world, and Android has not done much with it before the advent of Siri.
There is also the quality of the hardware and how tightly knit the hardware is to the software and the infrastructure behind it. With s much fragmentation in Android, I don't see how they can come up with something as intelligent as Siri. Each handset maker and carrier will want their custom system, and it will just never work in the end. Something as simple has having uniformity in Firmware updates has proved challenging to Android.
Sometimes all this talk about open source is overrated. While open source is sometimes good, when it does not work it simply doesn't.
And then we will have miscreants introducing trojans in the Android Market Place and causing security issues. Recently someone introduced a fake Netflix App in the Android Market Place and the Android clan was not the wiser, downloaded it in the millions. Sometimes closed works better.
My money is on iOS, as it has been in the last 4 years. And I have not been disappointed.
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Tel No: 0x2af23696
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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@Wash - still don't have an iPhone 4S yet, have to wait till end of November to lay my hands on one :-) & am not pissed, just being real :-) ./Ok3ch On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Alas, I'm afraid the queen's language failed me, by ridiculous I meant ridiculously funny. My brief stint in the Stanford AI class led me to believe that it would take a mad genius with a warped sense of humour to make Siri give some of those answers.
It is that warped humour that caught my eye, I haven't stopped smiling since I read those answers.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
On the contrary, the answers are not ridiculous. Siri is quite intelligent. Below is a sample of how clever our assistant can be.
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Peter Karunyu
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Philip Musyoki