ok, seacom officially goes live next week. Time to start moving away from wireless?
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ). I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go. Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes? DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs. What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )? Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet. 256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on this one. 512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one. 1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one. No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am. Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there. Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough. Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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Corrections (typos): 512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00 I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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Attached. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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I see many people are expecting prices to drop down drastically with the landing of seacom fibre next week. My opinion is that prices will go down btw 15-30% only. Bandwidth is only one cost aspect in the total internet package. Other cost drivers e.g electricity etc are on the rise. Expensive internet is here for a while...at least for the next 1 year On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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Heard rumours its been rescheduled again - can't auth those rumours, but it can be really sad if its true ./Ok3ch On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I see many people are expecting prices to drop down drastically with the landing of seacom fibre next week.
My opinion is that prices will go down btw 15-30% only.
Bandwidth is only one cost aspect in the total internet package. Other cost drivers e.g electricity etc are on the rise.
Expensive internet is here for a while...at least for the next 1 year
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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the counter on their website is still counting down, 2 days to go. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Okechukwu<okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Heard rumours its been rescheduled again - can't auth those rumours, but it can be really sad if its true
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
I see many people are expecting prices to drop down drastically with the landing of seacom fibre next week.
My opinion is that prices will go down btw 15-30% only.
Bandwidth is only one cost aspect in the total internet package. Other cost drivers e.g electricity etc are on the rise.
Expensive internet is here for a while...at least for the next 1 year
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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thats why I said unauthenticated rumours - but I told my source all we can do is wait and see. ./Ok3ch On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Richard Bosire <richard.bosire@gmail.com>wrote:
the counter on their website is still counting down, 2 days to go.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Okechukwu<okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Heard rumours its been rescheduled again - can't auth those rumours, but it can be really sad if its true
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
I see many people are expecting prices to drop down drastically with the landing of seacom fibre next week.
My opinion is that prices will go down btw 15-30% only.
Bandwidth is only one cost aspect in the total internet package. Other cost drivers e.g electricity etc are on the rise.
Expensive internet is here for a while...at least for the next 1 year
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com
wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <
mmskunkworks@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs
on
this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
( pls remove human factors like CS from this ).
I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station
capacity so
max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s
Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and revving to go.
Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and setup top boxes?
DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs.
What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )?
Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! :-)
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blame it on the windows file copying utility. how can they be accurate if they use that? 2009/7/20 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
thats why I said unauthenticated rumours - but I told my source all we can do is wait and see.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Richard Bosire <richard.bosire@gmail.com>wrote:
the counter on their website is still counting down, 2 days to go.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Okechukwu<okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Heard rumours its been rescheduled again - can't auth those rumours, but it can be really sad if its true
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
I see many people are expecting prices to drop down drastically with
the
landing of seacom fibre next week.
My opinion is that prices will go down btw 15-30% only.
Bandwidth is only one cost aspect in the total internet package. Other cost drivers e.g electricity etc are on the rise.
Expensive internet is here for a while...at least for the next 1 year
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya < mmskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <
mmskunkworks@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet.
256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs
on
this one.
512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs on this one.
1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on this one.
No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on this one at least between 6pm and 6am.
Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not the worst out there.
Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as AccessKenya but good enough.
Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: > > ( pls remove human factors like CS from this ). > > I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto > copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so > max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, > not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde > 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame > relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s > > Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL > service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and > revving to go. > > Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a > subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and > setup top boxes? > > DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their > content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park > and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs. > > What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be > improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg > : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data > warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )? > > Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! > :-) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Hehehe, lol @Dennis thats a good one though was wondering does it mean they are using window to copy - paste fibre then shout the indicated timelines that winD0Z changes as it seems fit, just taki the joke further. Nway I also think they should overproject the timelines rather than keep short timelines that they keep failing or is it that as it is in our country sm1 has to eat? Hope I did not hurt N1 here. -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
blame it on the windows file copying utility. how can they be accurate if they use that?
2009/7/20 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
thats why I said unauthenticated rumours - but I told my source all we can do is wait and see.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Richard Bosire <richard.bosire@gmail.com
wrote:
the counter on their website is still counting down, 2 days to go.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Okechukwu<okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Heard rumours its been rescheduled again - can't auth those rumours, but it can be really sad if its true
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com
wrote:
I see many people are expecting prices to drop down drastically with
the
landing of seacom fibre next week.
My opinion is that prices will go down btw 15-30% only.
Bandwidth is only one cost aspect in the total internet package. Other cost drivers e.g electricity etc are on the rise.
Expensive internet is here for a while...at least for the next 1 year
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Murigi Muraya < mmskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
Corrections (typos):
512 Kb for KShs 4,999.00 (USD 62.50) not KShs 3,999.00
I Mb for KShs 6,999.00 (USD 90.00) not USD 6,999.00
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Murigi Muraya <
mmskunkworks@gmail.com>
wrote: > > The Orange ADSL package does not look too impressive to me yet. > > 256 Kb for 2,999.00 (USD 40.00) - Would have gone with up to 768 kbs on > this one. > > 512 Kb for 3,999.00 (USD 50.00) - Would have gone with up to 1.44 Mbs > on this one. > > 1Mb for USD 6,9999.00 (USD 90.00) - Would have gone with up to 3 Mbs on > this one. > > No info on uplink speeds in the advert yesterday. Either they are > starting off this deal using expensive satellite connectivity or their > internal (local loop - fiber network switching and routing) infrastructure > is not up to speed yet, or they are not being generous enough to win market > goodwill before anyone else does. Am very sure AccessKenya will hit them on > this one at least between 6pm and 6am. > > Unless you have a bad copper line or are in an area where they do not > have enough bandwidth (network connectivity), Orange ADSL is certainly not > the worst out there. > > Their contention ratios are pretty high - as is evidenced by lines the > keep on dropping - but not as bad as Safaricom. Certainly not as good as > AccessKenya but good enough. > > Will check out if they are already offering the 1 Mb package and see how > it goes over the next week or two. Will keep y'all posted. > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> ( pls remove human factors like CS from this ). >> >> I think we will start moving away from wireless networks and onto >> copper, fiber. One problem with wireless will be base station capacity so >> max throughputs will be for domestic packages and experience similar to 3g, >> not exceeding 30-50KBps at peak times/ 100-120Kbps off peak while egde >> 10-20KBps at peak times/ 32-48KBps off peak . Wireless for those on frame >> relay DLCI type of ccts will not be an issue though max capacity is 8Mbit/s >> >> Interesting times ahead, Orange had an advert today for its ADSL >> service and its coverage areas. Most ISPs am sure are already geared up and >> revving to go. >> >> Who takes the convergence pioneer prize as internet is no longer a >> subject to talk about in the next 12 months? Voice, Data, Video? IPTV and >> setup top boxes? >> >> DTSV, local channels should be considering using fiber to push their >> content. Example : For news coverage of events from parliament, uhuru park >> and such, get fiber pops with streaming encoders equipment with AV outputs. >> >> What about services like hosted services, I hope improve there will be >> improvement ( if not, expect competition down the long road 12-36 months eg >> : VOIP hosted and billing, exchange, mail, document design & printing, data >> warehousing, remote services, photo developing all done online. )? >> >> Now the real thing takes off and we should start pushing the envelope! >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >
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