Skunkers Safaricom is looking to recruit DESKTOP SUPPORT ENGINEERS. If you hold a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science, IT or equivalent and have Microsoft Certification, this job could be yours. Apply now!
how can i apply On 7 October 2011 12:48, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
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Isn't this an overkill? Shouldn't Safaricom hire people with Diploma's/HND's? Or am I missing something here... On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Michelle Shivu <shivumich89@gmail.com>wrote:
how can i apply
On 7 October 2011 12:48, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
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If you feel that you are up to the challenge and posses the necessary qualification and experience please send your resume and application letter indicating your experience and why you are the most suitable candidate for the role clearly quoting the job title to the address below. The deadline for application is Friday the 14th October 2011. The Senior Manager – Talent Acquisition Safaricom Ltd Nairobi Via E-mail to:hr@safaricom.co.ke On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Where does one get diploma holders in Kenya? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Kenya Polytechnic, Strathmore University (Dip BIT), Nairobi University, Zetech College, Inoorero University, IAT, KU etc. Actually, there are more avenues to get a Diploma than there are to get a University Degree... Problem is that nobody cares about Diploma's anymore. I will never forget when I was asked to finish a business degree in order to get a job as a network engineer... reasons such as socialization and professionalism are given as to why we can't have more people with degree's but isn't it incumbent on the curriculum developers to ensure that we have this included in the curriculum of all tertiary institutes? On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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@ Phares I guess the 'head-hunters' (not the red-indians in the forest) - usually go by a sort of Hierarchy,, they try to give jobless degree holders out there a chance first,, then diploma holders,, then certificate holders .. That is what I have noticed with most of these head-hunters,, even customer care jobs,, they will start with degree holders..
this is safcom!!! On 16 October 2011 04:10, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this an overkill? Shouldn't Safaricom hire people with Diploma's/HND's? Or am I missing something here...
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Michelle Shivu <shivumich89@gmail.com>wrote:
how can i apply
On 7 October 2011 12:48, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunkers
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Misuse of skills...you dont study computer science to go and do desktop support!!!! On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
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-- "Change is slow and gradual. It requires hardwork, a bit of luck, a fair amount of self-sacrifice and a lot of patience." Roy.
Guys should read up on the Job-Market signaling model and employer learning. A model that earned Michael Spence the Nobel Prize for economics. I'm beginning to make sense of the mess, in my head... And I agree, it's wrong to employ graduates (who ideally should be developing software etc) as support engineers. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:
Misuse of skills...you dont study computer science to go and do desktop support!!!!
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunkers
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Roy.
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I can see why Michael Spence won the Economics Nobel Prize: *Contrary to the model without employer learning, we find that the Intuitive Criterion does not always select a unique separating equilibrium. When the Intuitive Criterion bites and information is purely asymmetric, the separating level of education does not depend on the observability of workers' types. On the other hand, when workers are also uncertain about their productivity, the separating level of education is ambiguously related to the speed of employer learning.* Care to elaborate please? bernard On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys should read up on the Job-Market signaling model and employer learning. A model that earned Michael Spence the Nobel Prize for economics. I'm beginning to make sense of the mess, in my head...
And I agree, it's wrong to employ graduates (who ideally should be developing software etc) as support engineers.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:
Misuse of skills...you dont study computer science to go and do desktop support!!!!
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunkers
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-- "Change is slow and gradual. It requires hardwork, a bit of luck, a fair amount of self-sacrifice and a lot of patience."
Roy.
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Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager.... On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:
Misuse of skills...you dont study computer science to go and do desktop support!!!!
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunkers
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Roy.
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager....
Interns can do desktop support... -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
Methinks this is a great opportunity for a person coming out of university. I agree with Joseph Maina, you have to start from somewhere and most likely its from the bottom. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager....
Interns can do desktop support...
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Actually starting from a place like Safcom will give you one of the best Exposures you can ever need to kick start your career.... On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
Methinks this is a great opportunity for a person coming out of university. I agree with Joseph Maina, you have to start from somewhere and most likely its from the bottom.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>
wrote:
Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager....
Interns can do desktop support...
-- With Regards,
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Why is help desk support being looked down upon ? Why is developing systems more important ? and for those suggesting interns ......why do you want your corporate clients to be handled by someone who's reason to be in your organization is complete his school work. Help desk support define your company look at this list for example many people rate companies by the support they get. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually starting from a place like Safcom will give you one of the best Exposures you can ever need to kick start your career....
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
Methinks this is a great opportunity for a person coming out of university. I agree with Joseph Maina, you have to start from somewhere and most likely its from the bottom.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>
wrote:
Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager....
Interns can do desktop support...
-- With Regards,
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-- GG
I don't dispute the fact that Safaricom experience is worth a lot... This is the kind of job one get's at Google while *still* in college http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob&jobId=1996592&goback=.nmp_ Our internship programs have failed. We should have the fresh CS graduates assisting with bug fixing for the billing systems/ERP etc. They can do support, but that's *before* they leave the university. The problem is that in Kenya, when we see interns from Campus, we have found coffee and donut couriers. They never really have any tangible work that they can do. Google has a shortage of engineers, as does Apple etc. We have become used to a system where we have perpetually underutilized employees, yet we complain about frustration. Those who were in the telco industry before NSN/Ericsson etc came into the market were accustomed to ISP's in Kenya poorly paying their staff... However, said telco's changed the standards. They did something similar with the graduate engineer program, that many on this list were beneficiaries of. http://cs.stanford.edu/ Kindly look at the calendar, and see the companies that are interviewing the CS graduates. I am *VERY* sure, that they are not going to be interning at those companies as "antivirus and spyware experts". For context, in Medicine, they do the menial work as they go through the university. When they graduate, they are ripe for the world. We don't have hospitals with job ads that read 'Nursing assistant required: Medial Degree required for application'. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually starting from a place like Safcom will give you one of the best Exposures you can ever need to kick start your career....
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
Methinks this is a great opportunity for a person coming out of university. I agree with Joseph Maina, you have to start from somewhere and most likely its from the bottom.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>
wrote:
Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager....
Interns can do desktop support...
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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@ Eric ...really?!? I would advise that you start at Organization 'X' doing something to build you along your field of specialty; even for lower pay, rather than joining some big name company for 'Exposure' or to 'Kickstart' your career... Mugo On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually starting from a place like Safcom will give you one of the best Exposures you can ever need to kick start your career....
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
Methinks this is a great opportunity for a person coming out of university. I agree with Joseph Maina, you have to start from somewhere and most likely its from the bottom.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>
wrote:
Neither do you graduate from university and become the ICT Manager....
Interns can do desktop support...
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Paul, Considering that we have students/aspiring employees within this list...I can only admit that this is a mentality/mindset that makes one what I call a "successful failure".......a perfect case of ideal vs real....to gain...stay hungry, stay foolish (before you bring in copyright issues, I admit :) I borrowed this one....).. Rgds, Dan O.Kwach. On 10/17/2011 7:19 PM, Paul Roy wrote:
Misuse of skills...you dont study computer science to go and do desktop support!!!!
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com <mailto:mainasoft00@gmail.com>> wrote:
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-- "Change is slow and gradual. It requires hardwork, a bit of luck, a fair amount of self-sacrifice and a lot of patience."
Roy.
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...I disagree with that. Before going far, please check out an unbiased JD for a DSE http://www.samplejobdescriptions.org/desktop-support-engineer-job-descriptio... What Paul says is that the work and requirements are non-commensurate, even in these days when the CS course quality in most institutions can be questioned And it's quite like the Queen Bee to ask for this and that. As one poster put it here, '...they ask for more qualifications/certifications/degrees than a thermometer' No one is looking down on the DSE work, a lot of us did it at some stage. But there's nothing wrong in asking college leavers to raise their self-worth. As far as reality goes, a number of them will apply and get in on the position... ...@ Kwach, why did you type in font-size 0.5? On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Dan Kwach <dan.kwach@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Paul,
Considering that we have students/aspiring employees within this list...I can only admit that this is a mentality/mindset that makes one what I call a "successful failure".......a perfect case of ideal vs real....to gain...stay hungry, stay foolish (before you bring in copyright issues, I admit :) I borrowed this one....)..
Rgds, Dan O.Kwach.
On 10/17/2011 7:19 PM, Paul Roy wrote:
Misuse of skills...you dont study computer science to go and do desktop support!!!!
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunkers
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-- "Change is slow and gradual. It requires hardwork, a bit of luck, a fair amount of self-sacrifice and a lot of patience."
Roy.
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote:
What Paul says is that the work and requirements are non-commensurate, even in these days when the CS course quality in most institutions can be questioned
Why can't the quality of the CS course be improved? -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
I will be glad for the day the Kenyan job market shall have 'more job options' like more developed countries.. Most of us have the 'fear' of self-employment or creating own niche - Most just want to get a job to support that girlfriend/fiance they will eventually marry or want to start earning as soon as possible, no matter what. It is few who are brave enough to challenge the current system and try to get out of the Matrix.. (a handful)
Beyond the poetry of the machine, computer science is also immensely practical. Im not sure about this job but most of the work there is technology driven, hence very practical. There's also tendency to throw in a baseline qualification. It should never stop you from applying and seeking an interview if you feel qualified. You just probably need to follow a different process:-) What you learn and what you do at work are really not the same. A lot of you know this. This is why startups are so much fun, you almost always get to do something you love. On the other hand, having 'papers' is a way of filtering that is every popular, sometimes it works. It's the system. Its all part of the journey. I however have to ask that you at some levels learn to separate knowledge from accredition. The interview process in most cases especially for technical jobs tends to focus more on whether you fit in a team and know what you are doing (or can do what you say you can) in that order. Other things come in but being able to actually do the work accounts for more than anything else. Unfortunately that means going through a long process. Its also easy to 'game' the system with papers which as you can imagine can be very frustrating to everyone. So to answer the question "Why can't the quality of the CS course be improved?" i'll dare say that regardless of its limitations, people who go an extra step to learn about the industry they want to be in tend to get 'jobs'; they work harder to get it since they tend to know what they want. And yes some luck is involved and it is not a fair world. Gitau Sent from my iPad On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote: What Paul says is that the work and requirements are non-commensurate, even in these days when the CS course quality in most institutions can be questioned
Why can't the quality of the CS course be improved?
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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how do i apply? On 7 October 2011 12:48, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
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Safaricom is looking to recruit DESKTOP SUPPORT ENGINEERS. If you hold a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science, IT or equivalent and have Microsoft Certification, this job could be yours. Apply now!
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On 18 October 2011 16:32, Amrit Panesar <amreegz@gmail.com> wrote:
how do i apply?
\ http://safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=322 If you feel that you are up to the challenge and posses the necessary qualification and experience please send your resume and application letter indicating your experience and why you are the most suitable candidate for the role clearly quoting the job title to the address below. The deadline for application is Monday 24th October, 2011. The Senior Manager – Talent Acquisition Safaricom Ltd Nairobi Via E-mail to:hr@safaricom.co.ke Wilson.
On 7 October 2011 12:48, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
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Safaricom is looking to recruit DESKTOP SUPPORT ENGINEERS. If you hold a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science, IT or equivalent and have Microsoft Certification, this job could be yours. Apply now!
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