
I wouldn't recommend going that way coz some of these IDEs have got propriety extensions that are unique tothem and might break your code unexpectedly in other platforms or OSs. But as far as IDEs go, you can get Visual C++ 2010 Express (totally free) from microsoft (best for working on Windows). and you are good to go. But remember the none standard extenions are also there in this. An example is C++'s main() function. VC++ 2010 uses WinMain() so if you have that in you code outside windows you are in trouble. So you can go for GCC http://gcc .gnu.org and get there compiler which is standards compliant and cross platform. If you are on UNIX you can try Clang http://clang.llvm.org/ This is a new standards compliant compiler and twice as fast as GCC and other compilers. Then you need to read up on Make/CMake www. cmake .org for configuring project builds, then you can also check out SCons a python based CMake which is much easier to use www. scons .org . If you choose to use GCC (MingW) then you can use Notepad++ as your editor or anyother that makes you happy :). Once you are comfortable with that then you can try out Visual C++ 2010 Express so you can recognize the non-standard stuff Microsoft has thrown in there and know how to handle it. Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi http://sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:33:22 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder Not really, I need to perfect my C++ so I thought I should do it by building and coding at the same time, more like an free time thing .. what would you suggest ? On 14 October 2010 15:30, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote: Anything specific you need C++ Builder for? coz there are "better" alternatives. Steve Obbayi http://sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" < wkwats@gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:22:31 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder Internet ... I get only trials ... torrent cant do that on the network I am On 14 October 2010 15:18, Stephen Munguti < kamitu.sm @ gmail.com > wrote: Internet, torrent ring any bells On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Watson Kambo < wkwats@gmail.com > wrote: Hello guys, Anyone who can help me out with a Builder?? Borland would be fine ... -- Watson Kambo _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co...ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co...ke -- Watson Kambo _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- Watson Kambo _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

If you are within Nairobi, i would get you a copy of Borland C++ Builder 5 and also 2010 Great Product if you are into hardware programming. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
I wouldn't recommend going that way coz some of these IDEs have got propriety extensions that are unique tothem and might break your code unexpectedly in other platforms or OSs. But as far as IDEs go, you can get Visual C++ 2010 Express (totally free) from microsoft (best for working on Windows). and you are good to go. But remember the none standard extenions are also there in this. An example is C++'s main() function. VC++ 2010 uses WinMain() so if you have that in you code outside windows you are in trouble.
So you can go for GCC *http://gcc*.gnu.org and get there compiler which is standards compliant and cross platform. If you are on UNIX you can try Clang http://clang.llvm.org/ This is a new standards compliant compiler and twice as fast as GCC and other compilers. Then you need to read up on Make/CMake www.*cmake*.org for
configuring project builds, then you can also check out SCons a python based CMake which is much easier to use www.*scons*.org.
If you choose to use GCC (MingW) then you can use Notepad++ as your editor or anyother that makes you happy :). Once you are comfortable with that then you can try out Visual C++ 2010 Express so you can recognize the non-standard stuff Microsoft has thrown in there and know how to handle it.
Steve Obbayi
SKYPE: sobbayi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:33:22 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
Not really, I need to perfect my C++ so I thought I should do it by building and coding at the same time, more like an free time thing .. what would you suggest ?
On 14 October 2010 15:30, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Anything specific you need C++ Builder for? coz there are "better" alternatives.
Steve Obbayi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:22:31 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
Internet ... I get only trials ... torrent cant do that on the network I am
On 14 October 2010 15:18, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
Internet, torrent ring any bells
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello guys,
Anyone who can help me out with a Builder?? Borland would be fine ...
-- Watson Kambo
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Another very good IDE is QT. It is free and has all the libraries you need for dev. It is one of the ides i found to be as robust as possible while not hiding the C++ language from you. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Zack Githinji <zachgithinji@gmail.com>wrote:
If you are within Nairobi, i would get you a copy of Borland C++ Builder 5 and also 2010 Great Product if you are into hardware programming.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
I wouldn't recommend going that way coz some of these IDEs have got propriety extensions that are unique tothem and might break your code unexpectedly in other platforms or OSs. But as far as IDEs go, you can get Visual C++ 2010 Express (totally free) from microsoft (best for working on Windows). and you are good to go. But remember the none standard extenions are also there in this. An example is C++'s main() function. VC++ 2010 uses WinMain() so if you have that in you code outside windows you are in trouble.
So you can go for GCC *http://gcc*.gnu.org and get there compiler which is standards compliant and cross platform. If you are on UNIX you can try Clang http://clang.llvm.org/ This is a new standards compliant compiler and twice as fast as GCC and other compilers. Then you need to read up on Make/CMake www.*cmake*.org for
configuring project builds, then you can also check out SCons a python based CMake which is much easier to use www.*scons*.org.
If you choose to use GCC (MingW) then you can use Notepad++ as your editor or anyother that makes you happy :). Once you are comfortable with that then you can try out Visual C++ 2010 Express so you can recognize the non-standard stuff Microsoft has thrown in there and know how to handle it.
Steve Obbayi
SKYPE: sobbayi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:33:22 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
Not really, I need to perfect my C++ so I thought I should do it by building and coding at the same time, more like an free time thing .. what would you suggest ?
On 14 October 2010 15:30, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Anything specific you need C++ Builder for? coz there are "better" alternatives.
Steve Obbayi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Kambo" <wkwats@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:22:31 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] C++ Builder
Internet ... I get only trials ... torrent cant do that on the network I am
On 14 October 2010 15:18, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
Internet, torrent ring any bells
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello guys,
Anyone who can help me out with a Builder?? Borland would be fine ...
-- Watson Kambo
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