
Hey people, I need a long range wifi connection for about 8km LOS. What equipment is good for this? I already visited mikrotik and level 1 but I can't find what I'm looking for. Exact product model number would save me lots of finger walking -- Regards, Alex If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too

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@Alex Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge? R D On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
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@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alex
Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge?
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Talk to Amiran or Adwest.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi
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-- Regards, Alex If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too

Alex, Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap? Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with. Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment. R D On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> wrote:
@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
@Alex
Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge?
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Talk to Amiran or Adwest.
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi
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Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes? On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
Alex,
Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap?
Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with.
Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment.
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
@Alex
Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge?
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Talk to Amiran or Adwest.
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi
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Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations. Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
Alex,
Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap?
Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with.
Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment.
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
@Alex
Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge?
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Talk to Amiran or Adwest.
Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi
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-- Regards,
Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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The two that i can think of off the top of my head are 1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [ http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/] 2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today]. R D On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com>wrote:
I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations.
Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
Alex,
Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap?
Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with.
Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment.
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
@Alex
Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge?
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
Talk to Amiran or Adwest.
Sent from my BlackBerry®
-----Original Message----- From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi
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-- Regards,
Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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-- Regards,
Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead. @Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product. Thanks all for the suggestions. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
The two that i can think of off the top of my head are
1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [ http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/]
2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today].
R
D
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com>wrote:
I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations.
Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
Alex,
Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap?
Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with.
Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment.
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
@Alex
Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say like a wireless-bridge?
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex, > > Talk to Amiran or Adwest. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 > To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Alex
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-- Regards, Alex If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too

Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS. 2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead.
@Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product.
Thanks all for the suggestions.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
The two that i can think of off the top of my head are
1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [ http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/]
2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today].
R
D
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com>wrote:
I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations.
Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
Alex,
Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap?
Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with.
Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment.
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
@Stan let me check out their site @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
> @Alex > > Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network say > like a wireless-bridge? > > R > > D > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> Talk to Amiran or Adwest. >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >> >> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 >> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
-- Regards,
Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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With Mikrotik, i think i have done 5KM with 2-10ms latency on CLOS - its still running for an year now. That means if you just require bridging and not necessarily wifi (/limit) you can take that. The distance between KAWANGWARE and UTHIRU is how many km? Digest. Wilson. 2009/6/17 Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com>
Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS.
2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in
my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead.
@Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product.
Thanks all for the suggestions.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
The two that i can think of off the top of my head are
1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [ http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/]
2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today].
R
D
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com>wrote:
I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations.
Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
Alex,
Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap?
Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with.
Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of your investment.
R
D
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
> @Stan let me check out their site > @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just > cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> @Alex >> >> Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network >> say like a wireless-bridge? >> >> R >> >> D >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> Talk to Amiran or Adwest. >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>> >>> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 >>> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Alex > > If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water > bill is higher too > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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Alex
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-- Regards,
Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Mikrotiks rock, use n-streme for this long distances and you will be amazed with their latency and data rates.Anybody try the R52n by the way On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
With Mikrotik, i think i have done 5KM with 2-10ms latency on CLOS - its still running for an year now. That means if you just require bridging and not necessarily wifi (/limit) you can take that. The distance between KAWANGWARE and UTHIRU is how many km?
Digest.
Wilson.
2009/6/17 Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com>
Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct
mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS.
2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in
my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead.
@Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product.
Thanks all for the suggestions.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
The two that i can think of off the top of my head are
1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [ http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/]
2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today].
R
D
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com>wrote:
I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations.
Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can offer them to the client for comparison purposes?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com>wrote:
> Alex, > > Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap? > > Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are > usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with. > > Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come > across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of > your investment. > > R > > D > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>wrote: > >> @Stan let me check out their site >> @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just >> cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome < >> dwahome@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @Alex >>> >>> Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network >>> say like a wireless-bridge? >>> >>> R >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> Talk to Amiran or Adwest. >>>> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 >>>> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Alex >> >> If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the >> water bill is higher too >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
-- Regards,
Alex
If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water bill is higher too
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Guys, ... and where locally can we buy? - and how much? Anyone having working kit - new or second hand - can contact me directly off-list - but please tell everyone where to get. Thanks, Tony 2009/6/17 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>:
Mikrotiks rock, use n-streme for this long distances and you will be amazed with their latency and data rates.Anybody try the R52n by the way
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
With Mikrotik, i think i have done 5KM with 2-10ms latency on CLOS - its still running for an year now. That means if you just require bridging and not necessarily wifi (/limit) you can take that. The distance between KAWANGWARE and UTHIRU is how many km?
Digest.
Wilson.
2009/6/17 Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com>
Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS.
2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead.
@Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product.
Thanks all for the suggestions.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
The two that i can think of off the top of my head are
1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/]
2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today].
R
D
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com> wrote:
I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that they did not much up to your expectations.
Best Regards Collins Idewa Emadau P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, City Square,Nairobi. KENYA. emadauidewa@gmail.com +254723542064 Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can > offer them to the client for comparison purposes? > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Alex, >> >> Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap? >> >> Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are >> usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with. >> >> Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come >> across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of >> your investment. >> >> R >> >> D >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> @Stan let me check out their site >>> @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just >>> cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome >>> <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> @Alex >>>> >>>> Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network >>>> say like a wireless-bridge? >>>> >>>> R >>>> >>>> D >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>> >>>>> Talk to Amiran or Adwest. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 >>>>> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the >>> water bill is higher too >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Alex > > If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water > bill is higher too > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Alex
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Based on what i hear experienced wifi folks talking about - this seems to be the best next thing after sliced bread! ;) and its quite affordable too. http://www.ubnt.com/products/ps2.php YMMV Mich. Tony White wrote:
Guys,
... and where locally can we buy? - and how much?
Anyone having working kit - new or second hand - can contact me directly off-list - but please tell everyone where to get.
Thanks, Tony
2009/6/17 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>:
Mikrotiks rock, use n-streme for this long distances and you will be amazed with their latency and data rates.Anybody try the R52n by the way
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
With Mikrotik, i think i have done 5KM with 2-10ms latency on CLOS - its still running for an year now. That means if you just require bridging and not necessarily wifi (/limit) you can take that. The distance between KAWANGWARE and UTHIRU is how many km?
Digest.
Wilson.
2009/6/17 Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com>
Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS.
2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead.
@Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product.
Thanks all for the suggestions.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
The two that i can think of off the top of my head are
1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com [http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/]
2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today].
R
D
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com> wrote: > I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that > they did not much up to your expectations. > > Best Regards > Collins Idewa Emadau > P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, > City Square,Nairobi. > KENYA. > emadauidewa@gmail.com > +254723542064 > Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can >> offer them to the client for comparison purposes? >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Alex, >>> >>> Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap? >>> >>> Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are >>> usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with. >>> >>> Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come >>> across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of >>> your investment. >>> >>> R >>> >>> D >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> @Stan let me check out their site >>>> @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just >>>> cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome >>>> <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> @Alex >>>>> >>>>> Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network >>>>> say like a wireless-bridge? >>>>> >>>>> R >>>>> >>>>> D >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> Talk to Amiran or Adwest. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry� >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 >>>>>> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the >>>> water bill is higher too >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Alex >> >> If the grass looks greener on the other side, most probably the water >> bill is higher too >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Alex
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Hi Mich, Yes, I've also heard good things of ubnt. Again, it begs the question - who is able to supply locally, and at what price? Tony 2009/6/17 Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>:
Based on what i hear experienced wifi folks talking about - this seems to be the best next thing after sliced bread! ;) and its quite affordable too.
http://www.ubnt.com/products/ps2.php
YMMV
Mich.
Tony White wrote:
Guys,
... and where locally can we buy? - and how much?
Anyone having working kit - new or second hand - can contact me directly off-list - but please tell everyone where to get.
Thanks, Tony
2009/6/17 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>:
Mikrotiks rock, use n-streme for this long distances and you will be amazed with their latency and data rates.Anybody try the R52n by the way
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
With Mikrotik, i think i have done 5KM with 2-10ms latency on CLOS - its still running for an year now. That means if you just require bridging and not necessarily wifi (/limit) you can take that. The distance between KAWANGWARE and UTHIRU is how many km?
Digest.
Wilson.
2009/6/17 Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com>
Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS.
2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them in my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get back to you once I have the go ahead.
@Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a pretty good product.
Thanks all for the suggestions.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote: > The two that i can think of off the top of my head are > > 1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com > [http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/] > > 2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 > and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today]. > > R > > D > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com> > wrote: >> I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that >> they did not much up to your expectations. >> >> Best Regards >> Collins Idewa Emadau >> P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, >> City Square,Nairobi. >> KENYA. >> emadauidewa@gmail.com >> +254723542064 >> Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can >>> offer them to the client for comparison purposes? >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap? >>>> >>>> Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are >>>> usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with. >>>> >>>> Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come >>>> across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of >>>> your investment. >>>> >>>> R >>>> >>>> D >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> @Stan let me check out their site >>>>> @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just >>>>> cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. 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Hi Tony,
From their website it seems like they have reseller here
http://www.ubnt.com/purchase/africa.php Mich Tony White wrote:
Hi Mich,
Yes, I've also heard good things of ubnt. Again, it begs the question - who is able to supply locally, and at what price?
Tony
2009/6/17 Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>:
Based on what i hear experienced wifi folks talking about - this seems to be the best next thing after sliced bread! ;) and its quite affordable too.
http://www.ubnt.com/products/ps2.php
YMMV
Mich.
Tony White wrote:
Guys,
... and where locally can we buy? - and how much?
Anyone having working kit - new or second hand - can contact me directly off-list - but please tell everyone where to get.
Thanks, Tony
2009/6/17 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>:
Mikrotiks rock, use n-streme for this long distances and you will be amazed with their latency and data rates.Anybody try the R52n by the way
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
With Mikrotik, i think i have done 5KM with 2-10ms latency on CLOS - its still running for an year now. That means if you just require bridging and not necessarily wifi (/limit) you can take that. The distance between KAWANGWARE and UTHIRU is how many km?
Digest.
Wilson.
2009/6/17 Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com>
Mikrotik only sell 5ghz panels, i.e no omni, no 2.4ghz but with the correct mix and match of equipment I believe you can achieve 8km on CLOS.
2009/6/17 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> > Actually, Mikrotiks are what came to mind first having dealt with them > in my previous job, but their website is scarce with info. Emily I will get > back to you once I have the go ahead. > > @Denis I was trying to remember winlink. I have dealt with it and is a > pretty good product. > > Thanks all for the suggestions. > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> > wrote: >> The two that i can think of off the top of my head are >> >> 1. My fovourite the BreezeNET B www.alvarion.com >> [http://www.alvarion.com/solutions/backhaul/products/breezenet_b/] >> >> 2. A 2 offerings from http://www.radwin.com/ , check out winlink1000 >> and winlink2000 [the website seems to be down today]. >> >> R >> >> D >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Collins Emadau <emadauidewa@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> I know Mikrotiks do a great job at that. Am actually surprised that >>> they did not much up to your expectations. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Collins Idewa Emadau >>> P.O.BOX 62689 - 00200, >>> City Square,Nairobi. >>> KENYA. >>> emadauidewa@gmail.com >>> +254723542064 >>> Do what you can,with what you have,where you are-Roosvelt >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Wow! That is not cheap at all. What equipment are those so I can >>>> offer them to the client for comparison purposes? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> Are you at liberty to disclose what you mean by cheap? >>>>> >>>>> Most of the equipment I am familiar with for this type of setup are >>>>> usually about 500k. But those are the ones i am familiar with. >>>>> >>>>> Also make sure that you have checked all obstacles that you may come >>>>> across before hand, especially RF Interference which can lead to loss of >>>>> your investment. >>>>> >>>>> R >>>>> >>>>> D >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> @Stan let me check out their site >>>>>> @Denis A bridge sounds about right, not necessarily wifi but just >>>>>> cheap means of connecting the two sites via wireless equipment >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Denis G. Wahome >>>>>> <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> @Alex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does it have to be wifi, of just a solution to bridge two network >>>>>>> say like a wireless-bridge? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> R >>>>>>> >>>>>>> D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM, <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Talk to Amiran or Adwest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry� >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:54 >>>>>>>> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>>> Subject: [Skunkworks] Long range Wifi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>>> Science - 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participants (9)
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Alex Ngatia
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Brian Lusiola
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Collins Emadau
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Denis G. Wahome
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Jamal Mohamed
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Michuki Mwangi
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stanngure@gmail.com
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Thuo Wilson
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Tony White