Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 12, Issue 138
Thanks! ---------- Sent from my Nokia Phone ------Original message------ From: <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> To: <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011 3:08:28 PM GMT+0300 Subject: Skunkworks Digest, Vol 12, Issue 138 Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke You can reach the person managing the list at skunkworks-owner@lists.my.co.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mentors in the ICT industry (Clement Ongera) 2. Re: why are we paying taxes? (Stephen Ndungu) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:07:39 +0300 From: Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Mentors in the ICT industry Message-ID: <AANLkTi=ntsp-0tWL06=fzWnT787rWJ0BJuK_DVsc34b4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There's Jessica, Linda, The Akira Chix and of course Dorcas -- Many Thanks. Regards, Clement Ongera. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:09:55 +0300 From: Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] why are we paying taxes? Message-ID: <6CCE3BAA-8DD3-4F65-A351-6F772E87834F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" @Watchman This is the frustrating thing about our "Judiciary" and "Law enforcement" So there is a guy 'Politician' who was hunted by Lumumba and his team and it emerged that his hand has always been involved in one embezzlement or the other in Kenyan History.. And everybody is like "finally, some proof, some bravery, some justice" And 2 weeks later, the President visits the named Politician's home area, practically holding hands and saying "they/he should be forgiven" or something to that effect.. This completely undermined the work done by revolutionaries like Lumumba, and it goes to show that the whole Judiciary system is an Ant, struggling under the Elite's thumbs. And you know what? Follow some low profile cases and compare with "high profile" cases brought to court.. You will be surprised to hear that court systems for Criminal offenses are not the same... There are some courts where you are not expected to say "not guilty" and your lawyer is just a prop. If you say "not guilty" you are thrown in remand until the day your "hardheadedness" accepts a guilty plea. Then we have the high profile ones, the ones that appear on TV charging "high profile" cases. These ones follow the right sequence as we see on American law series. And the accused is usually "innocent until proven guilty" and the lawyer actually presents his clients case,, and many usually get out on "lack of enough proof or evidence". So that is the short summary of our Judicial System. I have tried in the past to sue a company that had obviuosly conned us; You can't believe how powerless Lawyers are in this system :) Woe unto you if you are shikwad for incitement (or any other charge in which you are innocent) and you try to get a lawyer to fight your case :) Sent from my iPhone On Feb 12, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Brothers and Sisters,
I've managed to start looking at a number of things however the most complicated process i've been trying to follow up on is this.
Considering i've been spending approximately 2 - 300K a year on Taxes, it's beginning to become weary when i hear or read that certain people have misused the money. I tried to understand it but couldn't, I thought i was the only one frustrated seeing as how i didn't hear anyone else "Voice" their opinions. Fear maybe, but when asking on a one to one, there's always something to say.
So, i thought it out, we have a crisis at the moment, the drought in Baringo killing off citizens. I'd like to know if you as skunks are aware of or can get in touch with someone who would be able to assist with this.
Instead of me paying my taxes to the gov't, i use my taxes to work on a project that does two things.
1. Short term termination of drought 2. Long term assistance to the community so that it doesn't recur.
I need Legal assistance and once the formalities have been pulled through, there should be a process whereby this can be justified. So my question to you is this:
Do you know who can help me find out if we can legalize a direct process of interjection considering after about 3 weeks of this nonsense, there's still daily news of just dying people. I'm sure a lot more Kenyans will sit with this if there is an actual process of direct participation as opposed to going through waiting for things to happen.
And something i found disgusting. approx Ksh 845Million saved last year as MP's and Gov't officials drove smaller cars. WTF?
watchman.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Kago Kagichiri <thekenyanprince@gmail.com
wrote: http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Wako%20accused%20of%20delaying%20hate%20speech%...
I'm IN!
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:59 PM, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote: Are there techies in Kenyan politics today?..Ralf Tuju was axed, if there are, they should step up their game otherwise we should vote in our own to represent skunkers' beefs..
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote: Sounds exciting :)
Kelvin www.likechapaa.com www.dukapress.org --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- -------------------------------------------------------------------- We help make your website a success. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote: Have been a bit .. occupied looking at the legalities of what i wanted to do, i've been consulting lawyers to get the most.. diplomatic and non-destructive way forward.
All research and ideas will be put forward within 1 Week.
Watchman.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Paul Mathu <mails.mathu@gmail.com> wrote:
But that should not in anyway dampen the spirit of those who believe in a future free of this draconian,self-centered hypocrites who call themselves leaders of this great nation.
@Watchie Lets see what you have up your sleeves....
Regards Mathu
On 20 January 2011 12:45, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: plus considering we have gotten to this http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1092724/-/11ffs09z/-/index.html
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Edward Obiko <edobie@gmail.com> wrote: @Judy et. al Thanks for the link
http://www.petitiononline.com/811976/petition.html
While signing the online petition is as noble as it gets, I have a concern about publishing of the personal info on the site. Someone talked about privacy on this thread... maybe another. Well this link http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?811976&1 provides 1212 Names, Numbers, ID/VoterNo, and consituency data for any savy marketer to harvest for free! God forbid they reach their target of 1,000,000.
Ed.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:00 AM, ty <tyruskam@gmail.com> wrote: Stephen,
I so totally feel your story. Happened to me too on the 3rd of January, being arrested by cops who are not withing their jurisdiction. And the story ends the same way. Angry big bellied man barking at you expecting you to cower in fear.
Personally, I feel this is a forum which has the power to influence any Govt body. We have managed to pull in big players in the IT industry and am sure with the same zeal and focus we can make a difference.
Am also tired of being a victim of autocratic rule and seeing no value of my tax money.
Am up in arms on this one.
-ty
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote: This is not going to be a coupe d'etat. Or anything close to it. :D i'm not in that scene. I just have something in mind that might tilt the country in favor of a cleaner better system. And it's not a plan for a quick fix either.
Will post about it soon.
Watchman.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Judy Mwaniki <tshiro8@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea! And while at that check this out please.
http://www.petitiononline.com/811976/petition.html
Regards, Judy. ______________________________ _________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- ...and I shall shed my light over dark evil. For the dark things cannot stand the light.
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- OO
Omingo Obiko
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- ?The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth o f corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy? ~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
--
Regards
Njoroge Mathu
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- ...and I shall shed my light over dark evil. For the dark things cannot stand the light.
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- K. K.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- ...and I shall shed my light over dark evil. For the dark things cannot stand the light.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
participants (1)
-
smweu2006＠yahoo.com