On 07/24/2010 03:27 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

Does this mean i can access KDN ADSL whenever I have a TELKOM land line?

No, your closest phone station (central office) must have the right equipment (and capacity is usually limited so it may be full). But considering ADSL is available in Lamu your phone station in Nbo is probably prepared. You can't be too far from your phone station but that is usually not a problem.

and on another different line, can i have KDN ADSL and Orange Livebox service on the same line? or should i have another line for redundancy?

You would need a second line. Sometimes operators share the equipment at the phone station - in that case another ADSL as backup would not make sense. If not maybe but if your phone lines go down you are stuck anyway so better get a WiMax connection for backup (or just a 3G connection). A solution with a 3G router that can switch to the 3G connection when the ADSL connection goes down automatically is good. There are quite cheap routers for that - http://www.dovado.com/ - haven't seen them in Kenya but available from SA or Europe - http://www.infoferenda.eu Dovado is really good, they upgrade the firmware whenever there is a new modem on the market. Even works with ZTE AC2726 (orange). Don't go with D-Link DIR-450 or 451. First you need a different router depending on technology (CDMA/ Orange/ 450 or HSDPA/ Safaricom/ 451) and D-Link are not exactly well known for upgrading their firmwares on a regular basis.

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jon@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jon@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:

Try MSN Live Messenger: support@kdn.co.ke <mailto:support@kdn.co.ke> - they can almost always give you the right person to contact.

Problem with ADSL is that it is dependent on a landline. If you live in an area where the phone wires have been stolen before don't even think about it ;) Make sure that you will get a refund if the phone line is down before signing any agreement.

On 07/24/2010 12:50 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

Hello skunks, Just wondering if anyone knows what it takes to get this, costs and availability. Makes a lot of sense that this would be the best broadband solution where available but it seems information is very scanty.

Anyone?

I left Lamu for Nbo quite a while ago. Had an Orange LiveBox connection in Shela but the wires between Lamu and Shela got stolen every month and it usually took more than three weeks to repair so one day of Internet a month (no refunds) :( There is obviously only one landline (copper) network but usually several operators are allowed into the phone station (sorry I do not know the correct term for this, telcom exchange, central office?) to put up their equipment (depending on country but I guess most countries with some law against monopoly would let more than one operator in as it is usually the gvmt of the country who owns the copper network). In some countries where ADSL is common some operators go together in smaller places so there may only be equipment from two operators but five may offer ADSL. KDN does not offer ADSL in Lamu from what I know. Anyway I think you need to contact KDN and ask if they have put equipment in your phone station or if they are sharing with orange (if so not a good backup solution ... ) Last time I was Kilifi Safaricom was still on Edge. Any change? On 07/25/2010 10:40 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

Thanks @ jonas, Im actually in kilifi, not NBO :-), I have an ADSL with orange, which i guess means i am near enough to the "phone station". I really wanted a cabled link cause i have come to appreciate the reliabiity esp with regard to latencies n all that.

If i get you correctly, you have ADSL from KDN in lamu? What i dont get is, does the service they offer run on the current Orange infrastructure ? cause if thats the case i believe i should be able to get their services.

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jonas@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:

On 07/24/2010 03:27 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

Does this mean i can access KDN ADSL whenever I have a TELKOM land line?

No, your closest phone station (central office) must have the right equipment (and capacity is usually limited so it may be full). But considering ADSL is available in Lamu your phone station in Nbo is probably prepared. You can't be too far from your phone station but that is usually not a problem.

and on another different line, can i have KDN ADSL and Orange Livebox service on the same line? or should i have another line for redundancy?

You would need a second line. Sometimes operators share the equipment at the phone station - in that case another ADSL as backup would not make sense. If not maybe but if your phone lines go down you are stuck anyway so better get a WiMax connection for backup (or just a 3G connection).

A solution with a 3G router that can switch to the 3G connection when the ADSL connection goes down automatically is good. There are quite cheap routers for that - http://www.dovado.com/ - haven't seen them in Kenya but available from SA or Europe - http://www.infoferenda.eu

Dovado is really good, they upgrade the firmware whenever there is a new modem on the market. Even works with ZTE AC2726 (orange). Don't go with D-Link DIR-450 or 451. First you need a different router depending on technology (CDMA/ Orange/ 450 or HSDPA/ Safaricom/ 451) and D-Link are not exactly well known for upgrading their firmwares on a regular basis.

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jon@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jon@lamusoftware.com> <mailto:jon@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jon@lamusoftware.com>>> wrote:

Try MSN Live Messenger: support@kdn.co.ke <mailto:support@kdn.co.ke> <mailto:support@kdn.co.ke <mailto:support@kdn.co.ke>>

- they can almost always give you the right person to contact.

Problem with ADSL is that it is dependent on a landline. If you live in an area where the phone wires have been stolen before don't even think about it ;) Make sure that you will get a refund if the phone line is down before signing any agreement.

On 07/24/2010 12:50 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

Hello skunks, Just wondering if anyone knows what it takes to get this, costs and availability. Makes a lot of sense that this would be the best broadband solution where available but it seems information is very scanty.

Anyone?

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:

On 07/24/2010 03:27 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

...

Does this mean i can access KDN ADSL whenever I have a TELKOM land line?

No, your closest phone station (central office) must have the right equipment (and capacity is usually limited so it may be full). But considering ADSL is available in Lamu your phone station in Nbo is probably prepared. You can't be too far from your phone station but that is usually not a problem.

I thought ADSL range was limited to some Km, measured in terms of some bird's flight, from the CO:-). It was about 5km from the CO, if without repeaters. Maybe technology has changed, thereby removing the limitation. Does KDN offer ADSL or SHDSL, btw?

and on another different line, can i have KDN ADSL and Orange Livebox

...

service on the same line? or should i have another line for redundancy?

You would need a second line. Sometimes operators share the equipment at the phone station - in that case another ADSL as backup would not make sense. If not maybe but if your phone lines go down you are stuck anyway so better get a WiMax connection for backup (or just a 3G connection).

A solution with a 3G router that can switch to the 3G connection when the ADSL connection goes down automatically is good. There are quite cheap routers for that - http://www.dovado.com/ - haven't seen them in Kenya but available from SA or Europe - http://www.infoferenda.eu

I've seen some TP-Link that can use 3G router as fallback when main link

goes down, but yes, these may not be suitable since they are not DSL routers. If you don't get a Dovado, you can fall back to one of these - just use them as a "client" to the DSL router than you have :) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

omto the flurry of responses im getting (and the excitement of world->fiber->copper->myPC, im replying this for the benefit of skunkers and anyone else. 1: If the site survey has been done and i can access orange broadband on theirlivebox, is that a guarantee i am on the zone that can get the service? 2: Are there speeds higher than the 2Mb (i saw on their site under optic xpress they are able to offer up to 5Mb for 7k-ish) 3: Can i use the same line as the one my other ADSL from orange is in? Are there other costs, (setup, modem, contract fees ...e.t.c. e.t.c Im in kilifi, about 1 km from the CO. *I would wish to point out that it is my belief that KDN has an excellent product and pricing range, (which is why we b#tch openly and hope you improve)but can definately do better on the customer support front. Butterfly in kilifi , Machine IP 10.199.0.1 is down. :-)* On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software < jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:

My bad - should be "You can be too far from your phone station but that is usually not a problem" - otherwise the sentence does not make sense anyway :)

On a second note - the longer distance from you to the CO (thanks for the right term), the slower the speeds but since speeds are so slow on ADSL in Kenya anyway this is probably irrelevant (but if you have a 8Mbps or higher distance is important).

On 07/26/2010 12:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:

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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com <mailto:jonas@lamusoftware.com>> wrote:

On 07/24/2010 03:27 PM, [ Brainiac ] wrote:

Does this mean i can access KDN ADSL whenever I have a TELKOM land line?

No, your closest phone station (central office) must have the right equipment (and capacity is usually limited so it may be full). But considering ADSL is available in Lamu your phone station in Nbo is probably prepared. You can't be too far from your phone station but that is usually not a problem.

I thought ADSL range was limited to some Km, measured in terms of some bird's flight, from the CO:-). It was about 5km from the CO, if without repeaters. Maybe technology has changed, thereby removing the limitation. Does KDN offer ADSL or SHDSL, btw?

and on another different line, can i have KDN ADSL and Orange Livebox service on the same line? or should i have another line for redundancy?

You would need a second line. Sometimes operators share the equipment at the phone station - in that case another ADSL as backup would not make sense. If not maybe but if your phone lines go down you are stuck anyway so better get a WiMax connection for backup (or just a 3G connection).

A solution with a 3G router that can switch to the 3G connection when the ADSL connection goes down automatically is good. There are quite cheap routers for that - http://www.dovado.com/ - haven't seen them in Kenya but available from SA or Europe - http://www.infoferenda.eu

I've seen some TP-Link that can use 3G router as fallback when main link goes down, but yes, these may not be suitable since they are not DSL routers. If you don't get a Dovado, you can fall back to one of these - just use them as a "client" to the DSL router than you have :)

-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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