Does Safaricom have a case to answer regarding the month end offer...?
I saw the advert paper that was circulated about the month end offer and so decided to check out the HTC touch HD. When I visited one of their outlets on saturday, the sales attendant informed me that the entire stock was finished and they did not have ANY of the advertised units in stock. I found this not normal, especially when a company as big as Safcom was running the special. The attendant further me informed that all units were sold out in a matter of few hours a day before. What I find very strange about the offer is this : - Do kenyans walk around with millions of Ksh in their pockets, literally, that they just went and bought all the units outright? Would dealers have bought the unit outright and if they did, that even complicates the situation because Safaricom advertised to the general public, not dealers and thereby misleading the general public. Therefore, if any member of the public bought more than 2 handsets, would this mean a vendor and not the general public was buying the handsets. Something stinks about this whole month end offer affair and I think is worthy of investigation by kenyan authorities. Did anyone on the list see safaricom outlets being overcrowed by huge lines of people wanting to buy handsets for a the first few hours that the offer ran on that day, then the lines slowly disappear?. Sharing my thots, corrections welcome.
Yes, apparently there were long lines that morning, and not enough supply to meet the demand. http://www.techmtaa.com/2010/03/26/when-safaricom-phone-promotion-goes-wrong... That being said, it is not hard to fathom unscrupulous behaviour whereby dealers/vendors bought multiple units to resell at higher cost in the "secondary" market. - Chris On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I saw the advert paper that was circulated about the month end offer and so decided to check out the HTC touch HD. When I visited one of their outlets on saturday, the sales attendant informed me that the entire stock was finished and they did not have ANY of the advertised units in stock. I found this not normal, especially when a company as big as Safcom was running the special. The attendant further me informed that all units were sold out in a matter of few hours a day before. What I find very strange about the offer is this : - Do kenyans walk around with millions of Ksh in their pockets, literally, that they just went and bought all the units outright? Would dealers have bought the unit outright and if they did, that even complicates the situation because Safaricom advertised to the general public, not dealers and thereby misleading the general public. Therefore, if any member of the public bought more than 2 handsets, would this mean a vendor and not the general public was buying the handsets. Something stinks about this whole month end offer affair and I think is worthy of investigation by kenyan authorities. Did anyone on the list see safaricom outlets being overcrowed by huge lines of people wanting to buy handsets for a the first few hours that the offer ran on that day, then the lines slowly disappear?.
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@Wash, a special offer run by a company as big as Safaricom carries some credibilty to it. Only Safaricom knows the real truth i.e how much stock levels and who bought the handsets. I just found it very odd that they would run out of stocks within hours of the offer on phones that many would not consider necessary. Blackberry's and the rest are primarily business tools, business people lined up for the handsets is something hard to believe. The offer, at the rate that it was successful, gives the impressions that we do not need foreign donors. People must have serious money stashed in their pillows/beds because even going to the bank to draw large amounts will take some time, therefore the units run out. Somehow the whole thing does not add up and that is where I begin to doubt the it. It deserves an investigation by the authorities to clarify the air on this matter.
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-) Rgds.
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-)
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise! Anyone?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
@Wash, pls keep me in mind if your contact will come across an HTC Touch HD handset. :-) On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-)
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise! Anyone??
safcom was clearing their stock hence the prices and offer valid while stocks last. . . . . On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:34 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Wash, pls keep me in mind if your contact will come across an HTC Touch HD handset. :-)
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-)
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise! Anyone??
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@Mark, am just sharing my very amatuer opinion. I think you and me know that line below is somewhat close to BS!..... I can purely speculate further that some staff members are in on the deals therefore overnight when the printing of the advert went on in media houses, the deals were already done. Come following morning, all those who bought large quantities have just to complete formalities i.e goto that particular branch, pay cash in large sums and carry off the goods. You see the problem is speculation just continues because now there is a tiny level of distrust in such a large company. So the next time they run an offer, for the average buyer it will mean panic buying while for some of us, we will not even notice the offer. Safaricom has to come clean on the issue but until an investigation of its offer transactions is done, no matter what it said it cannot come out of this problem with a smile. An example of month end special offers : My car needed new tyres and I called all dealers to get prices. Kingsway and another are running a special Easter offer. The tyre size that I was looking for had a 30% discount on it. It took me almost 2 weeks to decide on the offer, since I was looking at replacing 4 tyres. When I paid them, they still had the tyres in stock and I was well aware that the offer was on a timeline so the usual case of first come first served basis applied. Corrections welcome. Rgds. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
safcom was clearing their stock hence the prices and offer valid while stocks last. . . . .
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-)
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise!
Correction: s/Nivi/Nuvi/g I think the Nuvi is better than the HTC Touch HD, or perhaps the same -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
@Wash, I primarily need the HTC Touch HD as a lab rat ( no harm intended to animal lovers ) thus looking for a lower priced unit. At some stage within the next few months, I'll need to try and port my game world designs to a mobile device, symbian is out completely while iphone is not under consideration. Rgds. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise!
Correction: s/Nivi/Nuvi/g I think the Nuvi is better than the HTC Touch HD, or perhaps the same
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Most of these handsets were bought en masse by PHONE DEALERS am reliably INFORMED !!! On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:50 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Wash, I primarily need the HTC Touch HD as a lab rat ( no harm intended to animal lovers ) thus looking for a lower priced unit. At some stage within the next few months, I'll need to try and port my game world designs to a mobile device, symbian is out completely while iphone is not under consideration.
Rgds.
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise!
Correction: s/Nivi/Nuvi/g I think the Nuvi is better than the HTC Touch HD, or perhaps the same
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I know someone who bought one of those phones, he is not disappointed, and he didnt queue.. he was there at the right time.. Obviously Dealers made a kill. I can imagine if the guy who sells newspapers has your number on speed dial, you were also in luck. They have new stock for all those phones. If you ask for the new stock, its at the higher price, with 1 year warranty. The old stock that they were disposing has 6months warranty.. New phone, bought at diff times, diff prices. On 29 March 2010 14:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-)
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise!
Correction: s/Nivi/Nuvi/g
I think the Nuvi is better than the HTC Touch HD, or perhaps the same
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That explains it On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
I know someone who bought one of those phones, he is not disappointed, and he didnt queue.. he was there at the right time..
Obviously Dealers made a kill. I can imagine if the guy who sells newspapers has your number on speed dial, you were also in luck.
They have new stock for all those phones. If you ask for the new stock, its at the higher price, with 1 year warranty. The old stock that they were disposing has 6months warranty.. New phone, bought at diff times, diff prices.
On 29 March 2010 14:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@all. On a light hearted note, if you are a skunk and a dealer who bought some HTC Touch HD handsets, I'm interested in one. Willing to buy @ or around safcom offer. Can we deal? :-)
I am going to get an Nivi M10 at KES 35k. I think this is good deal until someone tells me otherwise!
Correction: s/Nivi/Nuvi/g
I think the Nuvi is better than the HTC Touch HD, or perhaps the same
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Aki, I get to feel your sentiments on this. Maybe it got to do with manipulation in order to make people queue outside Safaricom centres yet they only had a handfulof the phones on offer. Also, it could have been a skewed mechamism to make it be seen as though the company is the most preferred choice. On 29/03/2010, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Wash, a special offer run by a company as big as Safaricom carries some credibilty to it. Only Safaricom knows the real truth i.e how much stock levels and who bought the handsets. I just found it very odd that they would run out of stocks within hours of the offer on phones that many would not consider necessary. Blackberry's and the rest are primarily business tools, business people lined up for the handsets is something hard to believe. The offer, at the rate that it was successful, gives the impressions that we do not need foreign donors. People must have serious money stashed in their pillows/beds because even going to the bank to draw large amounts will take some time, therefore the units run out. Somehow the whole thing does not add up and that is where I begin to doubt the it. It deserves an investigation by the authorities to clarify the air on this matter. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Does anyone know anyone who lined up and bought a handset? On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Aki, I get to feel your sentiments on this. Maybe it got to do with manipulation in order to make people queue outside Safaricom centres yet they only had a handfulof the phones on offer. Also, it could have been a skewed mechamism to make it be seen as though the company is the most preferred choice.
On 29/03/2010, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Wash, a special offer run by a company as big as Safaricom carries some credibilty to it. Only Safaricom knows the real truth i.e how much stock levels and who bought the handsets. I just found it very odd that they would run out of stocks within hours of the offer on phones that many would not consider necessary. Blackberry's and the rest are primarily business tools, business people lined up for the handsets is something hard to believe. The offer, at the rate that it was successful, gives the impressions that we do not need foreign donors. People must have serious money stashed in their pillows/beds because even going to the bank to draw large amounts will take some time, therefore the units run out. Somehow the whole thing does not add up and that is where I begin to doubt the it. It deserves an investigation by the authorities to clarify the air on this matter. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I saw the advert paper that was circulated about the month end offer and so decided to check out the HTC touch HD. When I visited one of their outlets on saturday, the sales attendant informed me that the entire stock was finished and they did not have ANY of the advertised units in stock. I found this not normal, especially when a company as big as Safcom was running the special. The attendant further me informed that all units were sold out in a matter of few hours a day before. What I find very strange about the offer is this : - Do kenyans walk around with millions of Ksh in their pockets, literally, that they just went and bought all the units outright? Would dealers have bought the unit outright and if they did, that even complicates the situation because Safaricom advertised to the general public, not dealers and thereby misleading the general public. Therefore, if any member of the public bought more than 2 handsets, would this mean a vendor and not the general public was buying the handsets. Something stinks about this whole month end offer affair and I think is worthy of investigation by kenyan authorities. Did anyone on the list see safaricom outlets being overcrowed by huge lines of people wanting to buy handsets for a the first few hours that the offer ran on that day, then the lines slowly disappear?.
There is no case to answer there. It's normally a first come first served basis and I do believe (correct me if I am wrong) that Safaricom did not say there was a limit on how many handsets one individual could buy, so someone could easily walk in to the shops, pay 500k and say "give me all the ModelXX" that you have, and the rest in the queue would be sent away. The offer must have been so open to manipulation, insider-dealing, etc but at the end of the day, the Finance/Accounts Dept at Safaricom does not complain as long as their books balance, or should they? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Whats the purpose of such a promotion? Is it to increase subscribers or to just to give out phones? Are the phones sim locked? Even if they are and ill still buy them in the secondary market for not as much as safaricom was selling them for is there a brand promise broken by safaricom there? As rightfully said, I think something went wrong with this promotion. they should not have sold more than one handset to each person.Otherwise we begin to question whether the promotion was somebodys way of selling handsets and safaricom with their billions absorbing the cost of it but they end up in the hands of consumers. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I saw the advert paper that was circulated about the month end offer and so decided to check out the HTC touch HD. When I visited one of their outlets on saturday, the sales attendant informed me that the entire stock was finished and they did not have ANY of the advertised units in stock. I found this not normal, especially when a company as big as Safcom was running the special. The attendant further me informed that all units were sold out in a matter of few hours a day before. What I find very strange about the offer is this : - Do kenyans walk around with millions of Ksh in their pockets, literally, that they just went and bought all the units outright? Would dealers have bought the unit outright and if they did, that even complicates the situation because Safaricom advertised to the general public, not dealers and thereby misleading the general public. Therefore, if any member of the public bought more than 2 handsets, would this mean a vendor and not the general public was buying the handsets. Something stinks about this whole month end offer affair and I think is worthy of investigation by kenyan authorities. Did anyone on the list see safaricom outlets being overcrowed by huge lines of people wanting to buy handsets for a the first few hours that the offer ran on that day, then the lines slowly disappear?.
There is no case to answer there. It's normally a first come first served basis and I do believe (correct me if I am wrong) that Safaricom did not say there was a limit on how many handsets one individual could buy, so someone could easily walk in to the shops, pay 500k and say "give me all the ModelXX" that you have, and the rest in the queue would be sent away. The offer must have been so open to manipulation, insider-dealing, etc but at the end of the day, the Finance/Accounts Dept at Safaricom does not complain as long as their books balance, or should they?
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aki -
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Njoroge Tito -
Odhiambo Washington -
Solomon Mburu Kamau