Aki you've brought out the basis of my skepticism (on whether Al can get that team here) and I will expound: 1. As far as I know, there are very few, if at all any projects that have been developed from guys who met in the list despite this list existing for atleast 3 years. (If I'm wrong on this then the more the reason my argument is wrong). 2. It's not that Skunk(ette)s don't want to work together on a project, I think the issue (which I mentioned on my first reply) is guys don't have time. Personally I would like to participate in development of many projects mentioned in the list lakini time is on my back like a bad rash! 3. I feel most of the members in the list have not participated in any IT/Networks/Hardware/Software development/any other techie stuff, or are just fishing (I know that's not the spelling but I have a craving) for ideas. Given the above it would be good to know who is in the skunkworks list? I hear we have a few thousand people in the list but who are they and what do they do? Only 10-15 people seem to contribute regularly. Others (recently Al Kags) and myself have posted job vacancies for developers but no replies! With member information people like Al can be more focused in their search. In the long run this leads to a formal body of skunk(ette)s such as a society, which I've ranted on and on ...   --- On Tue, 6/30/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: From: aki <aki275@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Can you build teams... if? To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:33 AM Hello. I'm glad you mention it. Project X was an idea too that I wanted to share about the creation of kenya's first distributable Open Source Corporate solution ( a commercial concept ). I even went into all the details of how the suggested work flow would work. There was some interest but my serious handicap was that I'm not a developer ( give me a few years ) nor did I get any feedback from developers. The project is still open to anyone who'd want to implement it. I know of a brazilian company who would have easily done it for me at a cost ( including private labelling ) but this is not my interest and that would defeat its creation. In brazil ( I've never been there ), open source solutions have a very strong market presence and many companies customize them.   A recap of Project X : create a local distribuatble DVD linux/freebsd solution to contain Mail Server, Firewall Server, Squid Server, 2 Network card Interfaces, NDIS, NTLM or OLDAP, Web Interface etc.   Sales : Distribute the DVD to super markets or any outlets. Purchase cost is eg Ksh 300/-. Silly self install system DVD, anyone can create a full server in a matter of minutes, no foss knowledge or experience required. ( ISO installer )   Support : Annual support billable. This revenue would create chances for new developers while existing developers would get revenue. This also creates a professional approach to offering the above.   I moved on to other things in my personal time so I hope someone will implement it one day... :-)       On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote: Personally, Crystal Offered to do something not many can do.He is ready to get a team of skunks and skunkettes to form a team to work through project X(Aki... what happened to these project?),and am sure if they team up with Walu,then Project Management isnt an issue. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general