Using technology to fight crime
Hey guys, I have been thinking: Piracy is a headache to Kenya. Pirates use water vessels in open waters. We have google earth At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the sea By simple elimination, you can spot the 'bad' vessels via google earth or other satellite imagery and smoke them out of the waters. Ama its harder than this??
which pirate will allow his pirate ship/boat to be fitted with GPS? the only way to fight pirates is to tell the gava to wake up our slumbering army/ navy and have them shoot the living daylights out of them..they (army) have been sleeping for the last 47 yrs and our boarders have become porous and our waters dangerous!... kwani what do we pay them for? no army service man should 'retire' or die a natural death, they should die in the combat field fighting for our freedom..tunawalipa! nkt!! On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I have been thinking:
Piracy is a headache to Kenya.
Pirates use water vessels in open waters.
We have google earth
At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the sea
By simple elimination, you can spot the 'bad' vessels via google earth or other satellite imagery and smoke them out of the waters.
Ama its harder than this?? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
google earth is several months to several years old, not live imagery, though you can map live stats on it
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote: [....]
At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the sea
Actually, the pirates are probably using technology to know what to target. I doubt they set out on hit&miss missions covering thousands of square miles of sea. Question is, if you were to get the data in realtime, how do you determine what's legit and what's not? http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/faq.aspx?level1=160 BR S -- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
lol... ...I hear that the Pirates of The Somalian have very sophisticated equipment and weapons and they also use very fast boats...I believe they are rich enough to afford all this:-) On the other hand, I believe the US can still track them live using their satellites or they can even send a drone...my question is why they do not do it...? On 12/14/10, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
[....]
At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the sea
Actually, the pirates are probably using technology to know what to target. I doubt they set out on hit&miss missions covering thousands of square miles of sea. Question is, if you were to get the data in realtime, how do you determine what's legit and what's not?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/faq.aspx?level1=160
BR S
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You see its of the best interest for US to have war in Somalia they must be taking OIL while these guys are busy fighting, and hence with no Gava in Somalia definitely Piracy will Flourish and if they were really serious US have the best Machinery to sweep them clean Regards On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
lol...
...I hear that the Pirates of The Somalian have very sophisticated equipment and weapons and they also use very fast boats...I believe they are rich enough to afford all this:-)
On the other hand, I believe the US can still track them live using their satellites or they can even send a drone...my question is why they do not do it...?
On 12/14/10, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
[....]
At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the
sea
Actually, the pirates are probably using technology to know what to target. I doubt they set out on hit&miss missions covering thousands of square miles of sea. Question is, if you were to get the data in realtime, how do you determine what's legit and what's not?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/faq.aspx?level1=160
BR S
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-- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us. Calvin Omari Systems Developer/Designer http://www.facebook.com/barongo
the vessels the somali pirates use rely on GPS to track the big ships so yes they can be identified. The idea is brilliant but who will buy into it? There is talk of a joint navy to patrol the indian ocean esp the gulf of aden so there is the will to stamp out piracy.... On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Calvin Omari <calvinebarongo@gmail.com>wrote:
You see its of the best interest for US to have war in Somalia they must be taking OIL while these guys are busy fighting, and hence with no Gava in Somalia definitely Piracy will Flourish and if they were really serious US have the best Machinery to sweep them clean
Regards
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com>wrote:
lol...
...I hear that the Pirates of The Somalian have very sophisticated equipment and weapons and they also use very fast boats...I believe they are rich enough to afford all this:-)
On the other hand, I believe the US can still track them live using their satellites or they can even send a drone...my question is why they do not do it...?
On 12/14/10, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
[....]
At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the
sea
Actually, the pirates are probably using technology to know what to target. I doubt they set out on hit&miss missions covering thousands of square miles of sea. Question is, if you were to get the data in realtime, how do you determine what's legit and what's not?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/faq.aspx?level1=160
BR S
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-- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.
Calvin Omari Systems Developer/Designer http://www.facebook.com/barongo
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Oil in Somalia? where? From the general pattern on Wikileaks though, you should have discovered that there are always vested interests or repurcussions
On the drones, The somali coastline is aprox. 3025km in length. The drone with the best endurance that the US have currently (Global Hawk) is 36hrs and a range of 24,985 km! Now this baby is usually parked at the Edwards Air force Base some 15,541 km from Somalia since its not Carrier Certified (cant land on an aircraft carrier) Now assuming the drone will fly at an average speed of 725km/h(average of top and cruise speed) it will take it 21 hrs to get there. Remember, it still needs another 21hrs to get home. Okay maybe they might have several of them hidden at Diego Garcia (for spying on Afghanistan and Pakistan) which would reduce the distance to 7,106 km making the flight time around 9hrs one way, so 20hrs of flying to somalia, 16hrs of patrolling the coastline. The somali coastline is 4 hrs flight time one way on this drone which means 2 patrols then fly back home so it is technically feasible But wait, there is the delicate question of who is paying for it. The drone alone is worth a cool $35M, there is also operational costs per sortie running to the hundreds of thousands of dollars. On 14 December 2010 16:06, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
lol...
...I hear that the Pirates of The Somalian have very sophisticated equipment and weapons and they also use very fast boats...I believe they are rich enough to afford all this:-)
On the other hand, I believe the US can still track them live using their satellites or they can even send a drone...my question is why they do not do it...?
On 12/14/10, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
[....]
At any one time it is possible to know which legit vessels are on the
sea
Actually, the pirates are probably using technology to know what to target. I doubt they set out on hit&miss missions covering thousands of square miles of sea. Question is, if you were to get the data in realtime, how do you determine what's legit and what's not?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/faq.aspx?level1=160
BR S
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On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Silas Savali <dzez2003@gmail.com> wrote:
On the drones,
The somali coastline is aprox. 3025km in length. The drone with the best endurance that the US have currently (Global Hawk) is 36hrs and a range of 24,985 km!
Now this baby is usually parked at the Edwards Air force Base some 15,541 km from Somalia since its not Carrier Certified (cant land on an aircraft carrier)
Now assuming the drone will fly at an average speed of 725km/h(average of top and cruise speed) it will take it 21 hrs to get there. Remember, it still needs another 21hrs to get home.
Okay maybe they might have several of them hidden at Diego Garcia (for spying on Afghanistan and Pakistan) which would reduce the distance to 7,106 km making the flight time around 9hrs one way, so 20hrs of flying to somalia, 16hrs of patrolling the coastline.
The somali coastline is 4 hrs flight time one way on this drone which means 2 patrols then fly back home so it is technically feasible
But wait, there is the delicate question of who is paying for it. The drone alone is worth a cool $35M, there is also operational costs per sortie running to the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Can't it be parked at Mombasa? :) BTW, what is the name of the airport we have in Mombasa?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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*BTW, what is the name of the airport we have in Mombasa??*
Moi International Airport. Have u ever noticed how most wannabe airports, especially those in developing countries are obsessed with the "international tag"? [?][?][?]
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