Guys am looking out for a paid internship in a software development firm. Any suggestions? On May 8, 2012 8:11 AM, "Michelle Tongo" <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
@Calvin I second you
@
Imagine it is not fair for a company to not pay someone some remuneration. At least commuter expenses and meals. For heavens sake, Make people know that they are worth the effort. As they say, always try and put yourself in others shoes and you will feel that pinch Thats that'. We live in an economy that is give and get. So let us try and practice that at times
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On 8 May 2012 07:39, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am in agreement with Collins & Wash on this - If an internship is required for you to complete your studies, then the school should actually give you money to complete your internship - I remember way back we were given 6,500/- which was never paid back (not a loan). The company is therefore at their discretion to pay you. I also remember a company like Kenya Railways used to charge the student for internship since they had the best workshops in the country and to use it you had to pay them! However, as an employer, I also advocate for giving something small - but at your discretion and not a right!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
actually, Internship / attachment is usually a difficult time in a students career especially where (as is the case with most courses) it is an integral part of completing your academic studies. In most instances institutions organize for this, and in our days they even used to arrange for a "stipend" directly with the student.
I would however say the "intern" bein looked for by Norman above is actually cheap labour, which could be wrong. Unless of course there is stuff to be learnt thats of a unique and invaluable nature.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
@ Collins
You did not address those who cannot afford.
I remember during my internship i used to share some of my funds with the cleaners when i found them at the bus stop - apparently waiting for 5 bob fares past 10pm, when the matatu was shouting 30 bob.
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You can start your search at the iHub Jobs<http://www.ihub.co.ke/pages/jobs.php>page. Which technologies/platforms are you skilled in? On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Melissa Kanyi <melissakanyi@gmail.com>wrote:
Guys am looking out for a paid internship in a software development firm. Any suggestions? On May 8, 2012 8:11 AM, "Michelle Tongo" <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
@Calvin I second you
@
Imagine it is not fair for a company to not pay someone some remuneration. At least commuter expenses and meals. For heavens sake, Make people know that they are worth the effort. As they say, always try and put yourself in others shoes and you will feel that pinch Thats that'. We live in an economy that is give and get. So let us try and practice that at times
NB:// Using Social Media Wisely
On 8 May 2012 07:39, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am in agreement with Collins & Wash on this - If an internship is required for you to complete your studies, then the school should actually give you money to complete your internship - I remember way back we were given 6,500/- which was never paid back (not a loan). The company is therefore at their discretion to pay you. I also remember a company like Kenya Railways used to charge the student for internship since they had the best workshops in the country and to use it you had to pay them! However, as an employer, I also advocate for giving something small - but at your discretion and not a right!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
actually, Internship / attachment is usually a difficult time in a students career especially where (as is the case with most courses) it is an integral part of completing your academic studies. In most instances institutions organize for this, and in our days they even used to arrange for a "stipend" directly with the student.
I would however say the "intern" bein looked for by Norman above is actually cheap labour, which could be wrong. Unless of course there is stuff to be learnt thats of a unique and invaluable nature.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Collins
You did not address those who cannot afford.
I remember during my internship i used to share some of my funds with the cleaners when i found them at the bus stop - apparently waiting for 5 bob fares past 10pm, when the matatu was shouting 30 bob.
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Got experience most mobile programming technologies . Am standard on Apache MySQL PHP, HTML5 JavaScripting, etc. I'm not one to be choosy but I wouldn't mind developing iPhone apps. Would also be interested in oracle dbms if available On May 8, 2012 9:45 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
You can start your search at the iHub Jobs<http://www.ihub.co.ke/pages/jobs.php>page. Which technologies/platforms are you skilled in?
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Melissa Kanyi <melissakanyi@gmail.com>wrote:
Guys am looking out for a paid internship in a software development firm. Any suggestions? On May 8, 2012 8:11 AM, "Michelle Tongo" <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
@Calvin I second you
@
Imagine it is not fair for a company to not pay someone some remuneration. At least commuter expenses and meals. For heavens sake, Make people know that they are worth the effort. As they say, always try and put yourself in others shoes and you will feel that pinch Thats that'. We live in an economy that is give and get. So let us try and practice that at times
NB:// Using Social Media Wisely
On 8 May 2012 07:39, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am in agreement with Collins & Wash on this - If an internship is required for you to complete your studies, then the school should actually give you money to complete your internship - I remember way back we were given 6,500/- which was never paid back (not a loan). The company is therefore at their discretion to pay you. I also remember a company like Kenya Railways used to charge the student for internship since they had the best workshops in the country and to use it you had to pay them! However, as an employer, I also advocate for giving something small - but at your discretion and not a right!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
actually, Internship / attachment is usually a difficult time in a students career especially where (as is the case with most courses) it is an integral part of completing your academic studies. In most instances institutions organize for this, and in our days they even used to arrange for a "stipend" directly with the student.
I would however say the "intern" bein looked for by Norman above is actually cheap labour, which could be wrong. Unless of course there is stuff to be learnt thats of a unique and invaluable nature.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Collins
You did not address those who cannot afford.
I remember during my internship i used to share some of my funds with the cleaners when i found them at the bus stop - apparently waiting for 5 bob fares past 10pm, when the matatu was shouting 30 bob.
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@Melissa, why don't you try a riskier approach.... There are a number of skunks on this list who recruit quite often through this list, for programmers mostly. Why don't you send a targeted application to them? If you read through a number of historical posts here, you will see them. I am hesitating mentioning them directly, but who knows, maybe it might work. Tip: Two of them have one of their names starting with a J :-) Disclaimer: This approach might backfire, so try it at your own risk. But if I was in your shoes, I would try it. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Melissa Kanyi <melissakanyi@gmail.com>wrote:
Got experience most mobile programming technologies . Am standard on Apache MySQL PHP, HTML5 JavaScripting, etc. I'm not one to be choosy but I wouldn't mind developing iPhone apps. Would also be interested in oracle dbms if available On May 8, 2012 9:45 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
You can start your search at the iHub Jobs<http://www.ihub.co.ke/pages/jobs.php>page. Which technologies/platforms are you skilled in?
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Melissa Kanyi <melissakanyi@gmail.com>wrote:
Guys am looking out for a paid internship in a software development firm. Any suggestions? On May 8, 2012 8:11 AM, "Michelle Tongo" <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
@Calvin I second you
@
Imagine it is not fair for a company to not pay someone some remuneration. At least commuter expenses and meals. For heavens sake, Make people know that they are worth the effort. As they say, always try and put yourself in others shoes and you will feel that pinch Thats that'. We live in an economy that is give and get. So let us try and practice that at times
NB:// Using Social Media Wisely
On 8 May 2012 07:39, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am in agreement with Collins & Wash on this - If an internship is required for you to complete your studies, then the school should actually give you money to complete your internship - I remember way back we were given 6,500/- which was never paid back (not a loan). The company is therefore at their discretion to pay you. I also remember a company like Kenya Railways used to charge the student for internship since they had the best workshops in the country and to use it you had to pay them! However, as an employer, I also advocate for giving something small - but at your discretion and not a right!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com
wrote:
actually, Internship / attachment is usually a difficult time in a students career especially where (as is the case with most courses) it is an integral part of completing your academic studies. In most instances institutions organize for this, and in our days they even used to arrange for a "stipend" directly with the student.
I would however say the "intern" bein looked for by Norman above is actually cheap labour, which could be wrong. Unless of course there is stuff to be learnt thats of a unique and invaluable nature.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Collins > > You did not address those who cannot afford. > > I remember during my internship i used to share some of my funds > with the cleaners when i found them at the bus stop - apparently waiting > for 5 bob fares past 10pm, when the matatu was shouting 30 bob. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Thanks Pete. Am on it. On May 8, 2012 11:31 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Melissa, why don't you try a riskier approach....
There are a number of skunks on this list who recruit quite often through this list, for programmers mostly. Why don't you send a targeted application to them? If you read through a number of historical posts here, you will see them. I am hesitating mentioning them directly, but who knows, maybe it might work.
Tip: Two of them have one of their names starting with a J :-)
Disclaimer: This approach might backfire, so try it at your own risk. But if I was in your shoes, I would try it.
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Melissa Kanyi <melissakanyi@gmail.com>wrote:
Got experience most mobile programming technologies . Am standard on Apache MySQL PHP, HTML5 JavaScripting, etc. I'm not one to be choosy but I wouldn't mind developing iPhone apps. Would also be interested in oracle dbms if available On May 8, 2012 9:45 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
You can start your search at the iHub Jobs<http://www.ihub.co.ke/pages/jobs.php>page. Which technologies/platforms are you skilled in?
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Melissa Kanyi <melissakanyi@gmail.com>wrote:
Guys am looking out for a paid internship in a software development firm. Any suggestions? On May 8, 2012 8:11 AM, "Michelle Tongo" <shivumich89@gmail.com> wrote:
@Calvin I second you
@
Imagine it is not fair for a company to not pay someone some remuneration. At least commuter expenses and meals. For heavens sake, Make people know that they are worth the effort. As they say, always try and put yourself in others shoes and you will feel that pinch Thats that'. We live in an economy that is give and get. So let us try and practice that at times
NB:// Using Social Media Wisely
On 8 May 2012 07:39, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am in agreement with Collins & Wash on this - If an internship is required for you to complete your studies, then the school should actually give you money to complete your internship - I remember way back we were given 6,500/- which was never paid back (not a loan). The company is therefore at their discretion to pay you. I also remember a company like Kenya Railways used to charge the student for internship since they had the best workshops in the country and to use it you had to pay them! However, as an employer, I also advocate for giving something small - but at your discretion and not a right!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Collins Areba < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
> actually, Internship / attachment is usually a difficult time in a > students career especially where (as is the case with most courses) it is > an integral part of completing your academic studies. In most instances > institutions organize for this, and in our days they even used to arrange > for a "stipend" directly with the student. > > I would however say the "intern" bein looked for by Norman above is > actually cheap labour, which could be wrong. Unless of course there is > stuff to be learnt thats of a unique and invaluable nature. > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:56 PM, ndungu stephen < > ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @ Collins >> >> You did not address those who cannot afford. >> >> I remember during my internship i used to share some of my funds >> with the cleaners when i found them at the bus stop - apparently waiting >> for 5 bob fares past 10pm, when the matatu was shouting 30 bob. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three > developments of great political importance: the growth of > democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of > corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against > democracy”* > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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