Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 6 Broadband
Thank you Brainiac, Sam Gatere, Lucy Kimani and Francis Hook, you all raise important points. I would just like to stress on the defination of broadband and Service Level agreements as emphasised in your posting, why does it take bashing on lists for companies to honour their Service level obligations, is there a way we can reign in on this poor services from a policy and regulatory perspective? On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur. At IDC for the purpose of measuring BB connections, we take 256k as minimum speeds, especially in emerging markets. In more developed nations, when talking about national brooadband policies (and in some countries it is seen as a "right" alongside access to electricity, water, housing, etc), the definitions range from 1 to 4 Mbps.
Also agree - SLAs - very crucial. In Kenya its too common to see ISPs touting 1Mbps speeds and overlooking to mention that contention rates could be anything between 4-8.....and sometimes seeming to be up to 16 :-) like I am experiencing with our current provider....finally SLA's in terms of availability and speeds...
On 6 July 2011 21:38, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
For starters I think so as not to confuse the public the use of the term broadband should be accompanied by a definition and a service level agreement. :-( !
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Listers,
• As a nation do we need a comprehensive policy on broadband, if so what should it contain? • Does the current ICT Policy ensure that the country maximizes on the potential of the available broadband?
the floor is open, feel free to continue contributing to the previous threads.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno
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I suggest for all intents and purposes that the absolute minimum for what constitutes as broadband be defined (i propose 1Mbps, 1:4 Max with a SLA) and some way be established to prevent ISPs calling their services broadband. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Thank you Brainiac, Sam Gatere, Lucy Kimani and Francis Hook, you all raise important points. I would just like to stress on the defination of broadband and Service Level agreements as emphasised in your posting, why does it take bashing on lists for companies to honour their Service level obligations, is there a way we can reign in on this poor services from a policy and regulatory perspective?
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
I concur. At IDC for the purpose of measuring BB connections, we take 256k as minimum speeds, especially in emerging markets. In more developed nations, when talking about national brooadband policies (and in some countries it is seen as a "right" alongside access to electricity, water, housing, etc), the definitions range from 1 to 4 Mbps.
Also agree - SLAs - very crucial. In Kenya its too common to see ISPs touting 1Mbps speeds and overlooking to mention that contention rates could be anything between 4-8.....and sometimes seeming to be up to 16 :-) like I am experiencing with our current provider....finally SLA's in terms of availability and speeds...
On 6 July 2011 21:38, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
For starters I think so as not to confuse the public the use of the term broadband should be accompanied by a definition and a service level agreement. :-( !
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear Listers,
• As a nation do we need a comprehensive policy on broadband, if so what should it contain? • Does the current ICT Policy ensure that the country maximizes on the potential of the available broadband?
the floor is open, feel free to continue contributing to the previous threads.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno
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~ Alex Carey ~
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My question is who should set this defination, is it the industry or the regulator or both? On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:08 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I suggest for all intents and purposes that the absolute minimum for what constitutes as broadband be defined (i propose 1Mbps, 1:4 Max with a SLA) and some way be established to prevent ISPs calling their services broadband.
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Thank you Brainiac, Sam Gatere, Lucy Kimani and Francis Hook, you all raise important points. I would just like to stress on the defination of broadband and Service Level agreements as emphasised in your posting, why does it take bashing on lists for companies to honour their Service level obligations, is there a way we can reign in on this poor services from a policy and regulatory perspective?
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com>wrote:
I concur. At IDC for the purpose of measuring BB connections, we take 256k as minimum speeds, especially in emerging markets. In more developed nations, when talking about national brooadband policies (and in some countries it is seen as a "right" alongside access to electricity, water, housing, etc), the definitions range from 1 to 4 Mbps.
Also agree - SLAs - very crucial. In Kenya its too common to see ISPs touting 1Mbps speeds and overlooking to mention that contention rates could be anything between 4-8.....and sometimes seeming to be up to 16 :-) like I am experiencing with our current provider....finally SLA's in terms of availability and speeds...
On 6 July 2011 21:38, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
For starters I think so as not to confuse the public the use of the term broadband should be accompanied by a definition and a service level agreement. :-( !
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
• As a nation do we need a comprehensive policy on broadband, if so what should it contain? • Does the current ICT Policy ensure that the country maximizes on the potential of the available broadband?
the floor is open, feel free to continue contributing to the previous threads.
Best Regards
-- Barrack O. Otieno
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~ Alex Carey ~
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~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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