Caveat hope I am stating the obvious. By the time you decide to port from Safaricom please make sure your MPESA Account is empty as you loose VAS on the spot. The converse is true when you port to Safaricom you get VAS which means you can have an 073X prefix and have MPESA. This may backfire on Airtel. Kiania On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:

David,

Today seems like like the ultimate anticlimax.

I had even put on my best suit and even showered as part of preparation for porting...

Lakini nothing seems to be happening...lol

BTW, does anyone know how one moves to Airtel...do I dial a special #SAFCOM-SUCKS* code or something?

On 4/1/11, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:

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Has anyone initiated a number portability request? Updates anyone.

Unless CCK's April Fools humour :-D

Kiania

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Why do you need to notify the operators about your intentions to move? Can't they just make it like the way we change or used to change tariffs? Why not get a sim card of the operator you want to use? On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Patrick Karanja <wabethi@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody to help with clarification on this.

I heard on news yesterday Telkom MD stating that MNP is only for postpaid and not for prepaid. True or false

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You need to notify your new operator since they give you a SIM card which must have to be programmed as your number, so you just cant do it like changing tariffs ./Ok3ch On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

You got it right Kiania. Best Regards

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Why do you need to notify the operators about your intentions to move? Can't they just make it like the way we change or used to change tariffs? Why not get a sim card of the operator you want to use?

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Anybody to help with clarification on this. I heard on news yesterday Telkom MD stating that MNP is only for postpaid and not for prepaid. True or false

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unless the SIM cards are of the same type (java version/sim toolkit etc ) i don't think you can get M-Pesa app on another operators card after porting to saf. well, i think you can get a new card -- On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:

Why do you need to notify the operators about your intentions to move? Can't they just make it like the way we change or used to change tariffs? Why not get a sim card of the operator you want to use?

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Patrick Karanja <wabethi@gmail.com>wrote:

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Anybody to help with clarification on this.

I heard on news yesterday Telkom MD stating that MNP is only for postpaid and not for prepaid. True or false

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it costs more and takes up much more time....just get multi-sims sim cards On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:12 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:

Easy it's their network ....Njoroge

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:

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Why do you need to notify the operators about your intentions to move? Can't they just make it like the way we change or used to change tariffs? Why not get a sim card of the operator you want to use?

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Patrick Karanja <wabethi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Anybody to help with clarification on this. I heard on news yesterday Telkom MD stating that MNP is only for

postpaid

...

and not for prepaid. True or false

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On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 15:25, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:

awaiting the 1st guinea pigs :-)

The only people who will PORT are those: 1. Who cannot afford a DUAL SIM phone and 2. Who are unwilling to carry two phones. Mimi siyo mmoja wao:-) In this age and time, you can carry two phones having a total of 4-SIM cards - all active. Let's wait and see who will port. Who will be updating the public with the stats? CCK?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

Listers, We shall keep you posted once we get the statistics from the operators. Christopher Wambua Communications Commission of Kenya Waiyaki Way Opp. Kianda School P.O Box 14448 Nairobi, 00800 Tel. +254-20-4242-209 Fax: +254-20-4451866 Email: Wambua@cck.go.ke Website: http://www.cck.go.ke Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use by the individual(s) or entity to whom it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Additionally, if you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately by a reply e-mail. From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:29 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Has anyone ported? On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 15:25, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: awaiting the 1st guinea pigs :-) The only people who will PORT are those: 1. Who cannot afford a DUAL SIM phone and 2. Who are unwilling to carry two phones. Mimi siyo mmoja wao:-) In this age and time, you can carry two phones having a total of 4-SIM cards - all active. Let's wait and see who will port. Who will be updating the public with the stats? CCK?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!

saw on the news that on the first day 55,000 people walihama On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Wambua, Christopher <Wambua@cck.go.ke>wrote:

Listers,

I wish to confirm that MNP is for both postpaid and prepaid subscribers. For more information, see the frequently asked questions on the CCK website at http://www.cck.go.ke/number_portablity/index.html

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Easy it's their network ....Njoroge

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:

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Why do you need to notify the operators about your intentions to move? Can't they just make it like the way we change or used to change tariffs? Why not get a sim card of the operator you want to use?

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Patrick Karanja <wabethi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Anybody to help with clarification on this. I heard on news yesterday Telkom MD stating that MNP is only for

postpaid

...

and not for prepaid. True or false

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Who exactly ported, from a sample of 2,000 skunkers? Seems no one is even giving the Porty a chance. Realistically, why port anyway? In any case, even 073* crave for Mpesa, I bet they probably ported 30,000 to 072* yesterday. I wail for 075* & 077*, someone must have set up their failure. I pity 073* since even my idiot cant be seen from their network (inaonekana kama kabambe), now no internet unless niweke Sfc. Exactly why im not porting there! Byte in, byte out. -- ---------- BROOKLYN VIRTUAL NETWORKS ASSOCIATES Computer Sales, Service & Repair | Disaster Recovery | IS Consulting | Corporate Networks | Software Development | Web Development | Telecommunications 411 Calls (+254) 721-586-109 Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow.

Im waiting to know what to happens to mpesaa but thinking of getting a line just for mpesa than I will port. I cannot carry two sim cards and im tired of crappy service and since I dont use mpesa everyday I will port. Currently I use a mulika mwizi so i dont do data. I will own two sim cards and one will be only for mpesa. Otherwise good bye queen bee On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:

Well, Osotsi, I do not think you have understood the real benefit of the MNPP. It fundamentally changes the ownership of a phone number from the GSM Operator to the GSM Subscriber.

If you think about it, the subscriber spends effort, money time (eg printing business cards, calendars, calls etc) popularising a particular phone number. This can be valued much in the same way a brand is developed.

A simple calculation can then be made to see how much the phone number cost the subscriber (or how much it would cost to start a new number) as follows:

SMS to 1,000 contacts @ 1/- = 1,000 Printing 1,000 business cards @ 5/- = 5,000 General loss of business for 'being seemingly unstable' ~ 10,000/=

Total = 16,000/-

Alternative : Get a new phone to hold new SIM = 2,500/= to 8,500/= (Kabambe to Ideos)

This is just for 1 change!

Now, compare that to 200/= Porting charge (less than 10% of the cheapest alternative and about 1.25% of the more expensive alternative) ... Plus the fact that the subscriber now owns the number .... for good!

Regards, -- Davis

The GSM operator can then calculate that for him

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:17 +0300, Peter Osotsi wrote:

Who exactly ported, from a sample of 2,000 skunkers? Seems no one iseven giving the Porty a chance. Realistically, why port anyway? In anycase, even 073* crave for Mpesa, I bet they probably ported 30,000 to072* yesterday. I wail for 075* & 077*, someone must have set up theirfailure. I pity 073* since even my idiot cant be seen from their network(inaonekana kama kabambe), now no internet unless niweke Sfc. Exactlywhy im not porting there! Byte in, byte out.

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Is porting to Airtel free? As i understand, Bharti Airtel may have decided to offset the kshs173/200 for its customers. Can someone clarify this?? On 4/4/11, John Adams <adams.opiyo@gmail.com> wrote:

what are the technical hitches associated with porting from saf to airtel and then back?

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:

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Im waiting to know what to happens to mpesaa but thinking of getting a line just for mpesa than I will port. I cannot carry two sim cards and im tired of crappy service and since I dont use mpesa everyday I will port. Currently I use a mulika mwizi so i dont do data. I will own two sim cards and one will be only for mpesa. Otherwise good bye queen bee

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:

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Well, Osotsi, I do not think you have understood the real benefit of the MNPP. It fundamentally changes the ownership of a phone number from the GSM Operator to the GSM Subscriber.

If you think about it, the subscriber spends effort, money time (eg printing business cards, calendars, calls etc) popularising a particular phone number. This can be valued much in the same way a brand is developed.

A simple calculation can then be made to see how much the phone number cost the subscriber (or how much it would cost to start a new number) as follows:

SMS to 1,000 contacts @ 1/- = 1,000 Printing 1,000 business cards @ 5/- = 5,000 General loss of business for 'being seemingly unstable' ~ 10,000/=

Total = 16,000/-

Alternative : Get a new phone to hold new SIM = 2,500/= to 8,500/= (Kabambe to Ideos)

This is just for 1 change!

Now, compare that to 200/= Porting charge (less than 10% of the cheapest alternative and about 1.25% of the more expensive alternative) ... Plus the fact that the subscriber now owns the number .... for good!

Regards, -- Davis

The GSM operator can then calculate that for him

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:17 +0300, Peter Osotsi wrote:

Who exactly ported, from a sample of 2,000 skunkers? Seems no one iseven giving the Porty a chance. Realistically, why port anyway? In anycase, even 073* crave for Mpesa, I bet they probably ported 30,000 to072* yesterday. I wail for 075* & 077*, someone must have set up theirfailure. I pity 073* since even my idiot cant be seen from their network(inaonekana kama kabambe), now no internet unless niweke Sfc. Exactlywhy im not porting there! Byte in, byte out.

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@Collins.....</ ............>which would highly appreciated if it became a reality....what would it take? Kind Regards, On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:

Mpesa should introduce a web based service where the mobile phone is a tool for authentication.... that way we can port easily...

</wishful thinking>

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I meant the number. As in move the service from the similar card to the web. On Apr 5, 2011 1:40 PM, "gisho" <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:

@Collins, i wonder what you mean by "where the mobile phone is a tool for authentication" on the web. i don't get it

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@Collins.....</ ............>which would highly appreciated if it became a reality....what would it take?

Kind Regards,

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com wrote:

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Mpesa should introduce a web based service where the mobile phone is a tool for authentication.... that way we can port easily...

</wishful thinking>

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Ni Kuhama has been running every few seconds on all media houses, I can't even listen to Hope FM without being taught how to Kuhama, this thing is utter failure, not unless something terrible happens to QB. I know some telco wanted to benefit but im sure their mouths are sour! On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:

I heard on ntv only 500 ports do far. I think it's not well understood keep being asked what it means

On Apr 5, 2011 9:57 PM, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

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I meant the number. As in move the service from the similar card to the web.