Re: [Skunkworks] Software ownership dispute
Sounds like we should fall in love with petty projects .If one cant even afford an office lets alone,internet subscription or daily bread then cheap apps ,that anyone can download and pay would save a day.
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:32:07 +0400 From: Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> To: Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> Cc: Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions <kinprocomputers@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Software ownership dispute Message-ID: <CA+C-RFH2VRcX9sv__JqAQ4txRkDsZc+_4= hqgNbiQLRseToNcw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
True, but I've come across developers (me being one of them at some point) with literally 20 bob between them and packing up and going back to shags, and even that shags they can't get to because they don't have any at all. What would be a good move in this case? Of course if you have food on the table and rent already paid for, then by all means don't take the 50k ᐧ
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I really like the talk given by one Mike Monteiro in offering business advise to a group of creatives.The same lessons cut across any service industry. It is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkLVRt6c1U In short, always arm yourself with an excellent lawyer and accountant and you can confidently say to the client "F*ck you, pay me!" On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sounds like we should fall in love with petty projects .If one cant even afford an office lets alone,internet subscription or daily bread then cheap apps ,that anyone can download and pay would save a day.
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:32:07 +0400 From: Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> To: Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> Cc: Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions <kinprocomputers@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Software ownership dispute Message-ID: <CA+C-RFH2VRcX9sv__JqAQ4txRkDsZc+_4= hqgNbiQLRseToNcw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
True, but I've come across developers (me being one of them at some point) with literally 20 bob between them and packing up and going back to shags, and even that shags they can't get to because they don't have any at all. What would be a good move in this case? Of course if you have food on the table and rent already paid for, then by all means don't take the 50k ᐧ
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@kinpro, I am not sure by what you mean by petty projects, i am pretty sure whatsapp seemed like a petty projects when it started with the likes of facebook chat, gmail chat, yahoo chat, ...... Also if you take someones money and don't deliver, you are not better than the greedy people you are against and the same shall be done to you. You are also discouraging the genuine investors and contributing to the downfall of the industry. My best advice is don't deal with people who you don't trust. Do your research regarding all people you deal with, their history and all. Finally even if you trust them, have them sign a contract *don't trust rules; trust people!* *Meaning you sign a contract with someone you trust* On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Kiti Chigiri via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I really like the talk given by one Mike Monteiro in offering business advise to a group of creatives.The same lessons cut across any service industry. It is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkLVRt6c1U
In short, always arm yourself with an excellent lawyer and accountant and you can confidently say to the client "F*ck you, pay me!"
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sounds like we should fall in love with petty projects .If one cant even afford an office lets alone,internet subscription or daily bread then cheap apps ,that anyone can download and pay would save a day.
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:32:07 +0400 From: Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> To: Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> Cc: Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions <kinprocomputers@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Software ownership dispute Message-ID: <CA+C-RFH2VRcX9sv__JqAQ4txRkDsZc+_4= hqgNbiQLRseToNcw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
True, but I've come across developers (me being one of them at some point) with literally 20 bob between them and packing up and going back to shags, and even that shags they can't get to because they don't have any at all. What would be a good move in this case? Of course if you have food on the table and rent already paid for, then by all means don't take the 50k ᐧ
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Hi The only cure is to this is for coders/Developers to come together under The society of software developers of Kenya and speak as one voice if not this will continue being the tread Regards On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Stephen Munguti via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@kinpro,
I am not sure by what you mean by petty projects, i am pretty sure whatsapp seemed like a petty projects when it started with the likes of facebook chat, gmail chat, yahoo chat, ......
Also if you take someones money and don't deliver, you are not better than the greedy people you are against and the same shall be done to you. You are also discouraging the genuine investors and contributing to the downfall of the industry.
My best advice is don't deal with people who you don't trust. Do your research regarding all people you deal with, their history and all. Finally even if you trust them, have them sign a contract
*don't trust rules; trust people!* *Meaning you sign a contract with someone you trust*
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Kiti Chigiri via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I really like the talk given by one Mike Monteiro in offering business advise to a group of creatives.The same lessons cut across any service industry. It is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkLVRt6c1U
In short, always arm yourself with an excellent lawyer and accountant and you can confidently say to the client "F*ck you, pay me!"
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sounds like we should fall in love with petty projects .If one cant even afford an office lets alone,internet subscription or daily bread then cheap apps ,that anyone can download and pay would save a day.
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:32:07 +0400 From: Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> To: Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> Cc: Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions <kinprocomputers@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Software ownership dispute Message-ID: <CA+C-RFH2VRcX9sv__JqAQ4txRkDsZc+_4= hqgNbiQLRseToNcw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
True, but I've come across developers (me being one of them at some point) with literally 20 bob between them and packing up and going back to shags, and even that shags they can't get to because they don't have any at all. What would be a good move in this case? Of course if you have food on the table and rent already paid for, then by all means don't take the 50k ᐧ
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We can also get a list of investors and developers that are to be avoided, similar to the loan defaulters list in CRB Introduce IP as a compulsory course for all engineering and IT students in university On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:53 AM, absalom kiragu <kamonih@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
The only cure is to this is for coders/Developers to come together under The society of software developers of Kenya and speak as one voice if not this will continue being the tread
Regards
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Stephen Munguti via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@kinpro,
I am not sure by what you mean by petty projects, i am pretty sure whatsapp seemed like a petty projects when it started with the likes of facebook chat, gmail chat, yahoo chat, ......
Also if you take someones money and don't deliver, you are not better than the greedy people you are against and the same shall be done to you. You are also discouraging the genuine investors and contributing to the downfall of the industry.
My best advice is don't deal with people who you don't trust. Do your research regarding all people you deal with, their history and all. Finally even if you trust them, have them sign a contract
*don't trust rules; trust people!* *Meaning you sign a contract with someone you trust*
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Kiti Chigiri via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I really like the talk given by one Mike Monteiro in offering business advise to a group of creatives.The same lessons cut across any service industry. It is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkLVRt6c1U
In short, always arm yourself with an excellent lawyer and accountant and you can confidently say to the client "F*ck you, pay me!"
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sounds like we should fall in love with petty projects .If one cant even afford an office lets alone,internet subscription or daily bread then cheap apps ,that anyone can download and pay would save a day.
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:32:07 +0400 From: Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> To: Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> Cc: Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions <kinprocomputers@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Software ownership dispute Message-ID: <CA+C-RFH2VRcX9sv__JqAQ4txRkDsZc+_4= hqgNbiQLRseToNcw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
True, but I've come across developers (me being one of them at some point) with literally 20 bob between them and packing up and going back to shags, and even that shags they can't get to because they don't have any at all. What would be a good move in this case? Of course if you have food on the table and rent already paid for, then by all means don't take the 50k ᐧ
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