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T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
I know I'll get flak for this but Google Apps should really be on the shortlist. By the time you get serious about backups, DR, 25GB storage limits, security, spam, and uptime, you'll be spending way more than the cost of Google Apps for 'free' software and that's not even including your time. It's good that Zimbra exists in the world and there are definitely use cases for it, but definitely consider Google Apps before going down the road of hosting your own mail server. If you really just can't stand Google, look at these: https://www.fastmail.fm/signup/business.html http://lavabit.com/corporate_e_mail.html Hosting a mail server infrastructure with fewer than 10s of thousands of users just seems like a waste of resources IMHO - you're not getting the economies of scale and quality of service that hosted providers offer. --- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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I used to manage my own Postfix before Google Apps. It was a bit of a headache sometimes but generally ran well. Google Apps has greatly simplified my life but the costs can be high depending on the number of users. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I know I'll get flak for this but Google Apps should really be on the shortlist. By the time you get serious about backups, DR, 25GB storage limits, security, spam, and uptime, you'll be spending way more than the cost of Google Apps for 'free' software and that's not even including your time.
It's good that Zimbra exists in the world and there are definitely use cases for it, but definitely consider Google Apps before going down the road of hosting your own mail server.
If you really just can't stand Google, look at these:
https://www.fastmail.fm/signup/business.html http://lavabit.com/corporate_e_mail.html
Hosting a mail server infrastructure with fewer than 10s of thousands of users just seems like a waste of resources IMHO - you're not getting the economies of scale and quality of service that hosted providers offer.
--- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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@Adam - you are perhaps damn right with your argument that the dude can invest him efforts and time on other things. That is, he's got better things to focus on than building and running a mail server. The decision is his to make. On 13 June 2013 10:57, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I know I'll get flak for this but Google Apps should really be on the shortlist. By the time you get serious about backups, DR, 25GB storage limits, security, spam, and uptime, you'll be spending way more than the cost of Google Apps for 'free' software and that's not even including your time.
It's good that Zimbra exists in the world and there are definitely use cases for it, but definitely consider Google Apps before going down the road of hosting your own mail server.
If you really just can't stand Google, look at these:
https://www.fastmail.fm/signup/business.html http://lavabit.com/corporate_e_mail.html
Hosting a mail server infrastructure with fewer than 10s of thousands of users just seems like a waste of resources IMHO - you're not getting the economies of scale and quality of service that hosted providers offer.
--- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
Hi Skunks, Is anybody on the forum from KDN? I need them to help me solve the problem of my emails bouncing by changing my domain mx records to a new ip Their support keeps me on hold for hours then hangs up Regards Shadrack
I would just go to the registrar and reassign the nameservers to Cloudflare or Amazon or something else and set up the records there. Having to manage name records over the phone is depressing. --- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Skunks, Is anybody on the forum from KDN? I need them to help me solve the problem of my emails bouncing by changing my domain mx records to a new ip Their support keeps me on hold for hours then hangs up
Regards Shadrack
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send a mail to support@kdn.co.ke On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I would just go to the registrar and reassign the nameservers to Cloudflare or Amazon or something else and set up the records there. Having to manage name records over the phone is depressing.
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Skunks, Is anybody on the forum from KDN? I need them to help me solve the problem of my emails bouncing by changing my domain mx records to a new ip Their support keeps me on hold for hours then hangs up
Regards Shadrack
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``We cannot say this more clearly — the government *does not* have access to Google servers." [ https://plus.google.com/+google/posts/TMh6gUVrwMq ] Martin. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Adam - you are perhaps damn right with your argument that the dude can invest him efforts and time on other things. That is, he's got better things to focus on than building and running a mail server. The decision is his to make.
On 13 June 2013 10:57, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I know I'll get flak for this but Google Apps should really be on the shortlist. By the time you get serious about backups, DR, 25GB storage limits, security, spam, and uptime, you'll be spending way more than the cost of Google Apps for 'free' software and that's not even including your time.
It's good that Zimbra exists in the world and there are definitely use cases for it, but definitely consider Google Apps before going down the road of hosting your own mail server.
If you really just can't stand Google, look at these:
https://www.fastmail.fm/signup/business.html http://lavabit.com/corporate_e_mail.html
Hosting a mail server infrastructure with fewer than 10s of thousands of users just seems like a waste of resources IMHO - you're not getting the economies of scale and quality of service that hosted providers offer.
--- OpenStack for Africa: http://signup.kili.io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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Have you tried Microsoft O365? Way better than Google Apps On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
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What makes it "way better"? — On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Dennis Yegon <koskeyegon@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you tried Microsoft O365? Way better than Google Apps On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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..and there goes the debate. The suggestions are many; go with what you think will work best and you can also support comfortably. Mugo On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Conrad Akunga <conradakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
What makes it "way better"? —
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Dennis Yegon <koskeyegon@gmail.com>wrote:
Have you tried Microsoft O365? Way better than Google Apps
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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What if the client does not want to spend a dime on the mailserver? Does Zimbra manage spammails and blacklisting rules well ? Postfix spamming rules seem to be deaf and keep allowing already blacklisted domains - forcing periodic deletion of SPAM email queues due to hardisk space. BR/ Stephen N. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Conrad Akunga <conradakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
What makes it "way better"? —
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Dennis Yegon <koskeyegon@gmail.com>wrote:
Have you tried Microsoft O365? Way better than Google Apps
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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Zimbra has Postfix as the MTA so Postfix is not a fully fledged mail server, you'd need a pop/imap server and more with it to have a complete server. Zimbra has clamav for AV and spamassassin for AS, so it gives you a much better level of protection. Using blacklist rules is also not an intelligent way of spam control, it does not rely on any heuristics but only does checks against blacklist giving you only the first level of protection which is never enough . On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
What if the client does not want to spend a dime on the mailserver?
Does Zimbra manage spammails and blacklisting rules well ?
Postfix spamming rules seem to be deaf and keep allowing already blacklisted domains - forcing periodic deletion of SPAM email queues due to hardisk space.
BR/ Stephen N.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Conrad Akunga <conradakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
What makes it "way better"? —
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Dennis Yegon <koskeyegon@gmail.com>wrote:
Have you tried Microsoft O365? Way better than Google Apps
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Simon Katumo <snzioki@bluewave.co.ke>wrote:
T ry Zimbra .there are cool ways of getting the paid features without spending a coin .be wise ,But zimbra is the best
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Abdallah Saidi -
Adam Nelson -
Alex Nderitu -
Brian Ngure -
Conrad Akunga -
Dennis Yegon -
m mugo -
Martin Chiteri -
ndungu stephen -
Odhiambo Washington -
Shadrack Mwaniki -
Simon Katumo