Skunks, Please help me understand. Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators. Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans? I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case? What is the justification for all these prefixes? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
Main justification: - Call routing: nationally and internationally - Billing: Nationally and internationally ./bernard On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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@Bernard, I did not understand your response. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Main justification:
- Call routing: nationally and internationally - Billing: Nationally and internationally
./bernard
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
Me neither. Please elaborate. On 6/12/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bernard,
I did not understand your response.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Main justification:
- Call routing: nationally and internationally - Billing: Nationally and internationally
./bernard
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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true @Odhiambo, To make it tighter, it could be x-yyyy-yyyy x = operator code (for call routing @ bernard) - this will give space for at least 9 operators. Also with MNP this is not needed (see below) yyyy yyyy = subscriber number - this would give space for 99,999,999 subscribers per operator And now with number portability there is no need for the X since the networks can use HLR lookup on the central number database to find our which network a certain number is registered to, and the call is routed there. So all you would eventually need is a yyyy yyyy phone number which can cater for 99,999,999 (99 million Kenyans). This would actually make good use of the hardware and software put in place for MNP so we would all have 8 digit numbers. On 12 June 2012 16:14, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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Can @bernard explain his two point answer? It doesnt appear to me like his points dictate the current scenario. Regards On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jangita Nyagudi <jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com
wrote:
true @Odhiambo,
To make it tighter, it could be
x-yyyy-yyyy
x = operator code (for call routing @ bernard) - this will give space for at least 9 operators. Also with MNP this is not needed (see below) yyyy yyyy = subscriber number - this would give space for 99,999,999 subscribers per operator
And now with number portability there is no need for the X since the networks can use HLR lookup on the central number database to find our which network a certain number is registered to, and the call is routed there. So all you would eventually need is a yyyy yyyy phone number which can cater for 99,999,999 (99 million Kenyans). This would actually make good use of the hardware and software put in place for MNP so we would all have 8 digit numbers.
On 12 June 2012 16:14, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use
10-digit
numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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well first of all telephone numbering has an old old history that we can't ignore. We can try to change it to mirror the realities of teh day (ENUM<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_number_mapping> ). Now with that in mind, note that mobile phones also came WAAAY after the numbering systems that started their journey before the telegram. (grab a copy of Timothy Wu's 'the master switch'). So again some history to deal with there. Whether or not your solution is better is not relevant unless you are willing to push it through the standardization bodies. Now which one do you work with? the internet numbering (skype works pretty well on my phone without a phone number) or the ITUnumbering or a combination. It is an evolution so your recommendations can be taken to account, just need to push it beyond skunkworks. So as always, your solution is probably better, probably even the best, now if you can make us use it?:-) Gitau On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Can @bernard explain his two point answer? It doesnt appear to me like his points dictate the current scenario.
Regards
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jangita Nyagudi < jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:
true @Odhiambo,
To make it tighter, it could be
x-yyyy-yyyy
x = operator code (for call routing @ bernard) - this will give space for at least 9 operators. Also with MNP this is not needed (see below) yyyy yyyy = subscriber number - this would give space for 99,999,999 subscribers per operator
And now with number portability there is no need for the X since the networks can use HLR lookup on the central number database to find our which network a certain number is registered to, and the call is routed there. So all you would eventually need is a yyyy yyyy phone number which can cater for 99,999,999 (99 million Kenyans). This would actually make good use of the hardware and software put in place for MNP so we would all have 8 digit numbers.
On 12 June 2012 16:14, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use
10-digit
numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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@Gitau, +254-XX-XXXX-XXXX should work as @Jangita brought forth. I still don't think there should be historical reasons to look back at. I believe the outside world (ITU) has only the control over the +254, but CCK can get the equipments reconfigured. Once the population reaches 99million, it's easy to renumber to 9 digits. That would be another 50 years from now and perhaps the world will not require +254 and such - it could be made a truly global village, even with just a single entity issuing IPv6 addresses to individuals:-) On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
well first of all telephone numbering has an old old history that we can't ignore. We can try to change it to mirror the realities of teh day (ENUM<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_number_mapping> ).
Now with that in mind, note that mobile phones also came WAAAY after the numbering systems that started their journey before the telegram. (grab a copy of Timothy Wu's 'the master switch').
So again some history to deal with there. Whether or not your solution is better is not relevant unless you are willing to push it through the standardization bodies. Now which one do you work with? the internet numbering (skype works pretty well on my phone without a phone number) or the ITUnumbering or a combination. It is an evolution so your recommendations can be taken to account, just need to push it beyond skunkworks.
So as always, your solution is probably better, probably even the best, now if you can make us use it?:-)
Gitau
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Can @bernard explain his two point answer? It doesnt appear to me like his points dictate the current scenario.
Regards
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jangita Nyagudi < jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:
true @Odhiambo,
To make it tighter, it could be
x-yyyy-yyyy
x = operator code (for call routing @ bernard) - this will give space for at least 9 operators. Also with MNP this is not needed (see below) yyyy yyyy = subscriber number - this would give space for 99,999,999 subscribers per operator
And now with number portability there is no need for the X since the networks can use HLR lookup on the central number database to find our which network a certain number is registered to, and the call is routed there. So all you would eventually need is a yyyy yyyy phone number which can cater for 99,999,999 (99 million Kenyans). This would actually make good use of the hardware and software put in place for MNP so we would all have 8 digit numbers.
On 12 June 2012 16:14, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use
10-digit
numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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In that case, my National ID number can be my telephone number... Regards Jared Koyier On 13 June 2012 14:31, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Gitau,
+254-XX-XXXX-XXXX should work as @Jangita brought forth. I still don't think there should be historical reasons to look back at. I believe the outside world (ITU) has only the control over the +254, but CCK can get the equipments reconfigured. Once the population reaches 99million, it's easy to renumber to 9 digits. That would be another 50 years from now and perhaps the world will not require +254 and such - it could be made a truly global village, even with just a single entity issuing IPv6 addresses to individuals:-)
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
well first of all telephone numbering has an old old history that we can't ignore. We can try to change it to mirror the realities of teh day ( ENUM <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_number_mapping>).
Now with that in mind, note that mobile phones also came WAAAY after the numbering systems that started their journey before the telegram. (grab a copy of Timothy Wu's 'the master switch').
So again some history to deal with there. Whether or not your solution is better is not relevant unless you are willing to push it through the standardization bodies. Now which one do you work with? the internet numbering (skype works pretty well on my phone without a phone number) or the ITUnumbering or a combination. It is an evolution so your recommendations can be taken to account, just need to push it beyond skunkworks.
So as always, your solution is probably better, probably even the best, now if you can make us use it?:-)
Gitau
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>wrote:
Can @bernard explain his two point answer? It doesnt appear to me like his points dictate the current scenario.
Regards
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jangita Nyagudi < jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:
true @Odhiambo,
To make it tighter, it could be
x-yyyy-yyyy
x = operator code (for call routing @ bernard) - this will give space for at least 9 operators. Also with MNP this is not needed (see below) yyyy yyyy = subscriber number - this would give space for 99,999,999 subscribers per operator
And now with number portability there is no need for the X since the networks can use HLR lookup on the central number database to find our which network a certain number is registered to, and the call is routed there. So all you would eventually need is a yyyy yyyy phone number which can cater for 99,999,999 (99 million Kenyans). This would actually make good use of the hardware and software put in place for MNP so we would all have 8 digit numbers.
On 12 June 2012 16:14, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
Please help me understand.
Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network
operators.
Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use
10-digit
numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans?
I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case?
What is the justification for all these prefixes?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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We need some standardization, but yes, you have a point, as invalid as it looks:-) ID numbers are not reusable. Phone numbers are. On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
In that case, my National ID number can be my telephone number...
Regards Jared Koyier
On 13 June 2012 14:31, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Gitau,
+254-XX-XXXX-XXXX should work as @Jangita brought forth. I still don't think there should be historical reasons to look back at. I believe the outside world (ITU) has only the control over the +254, but CCK can get the equipments reconfigured. Once the population reaches 99million, it's easy to renumber to 9 digits. That would be another 50 years from now and perhaps the world will not require +254 and such - it could be made a truly global village, even with just a single entity issuing IPv6 addresses to individuals:-)
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
well first of all telephone numbering has an old old history that we can't ignore. We can try to change it to mirror the realities of teh day ( ENUM <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_number_mapping>).
Now with that in mind, note that mobile phones also came WAAAY after the numbering systems that started their journey before the telegram. (grab a copy of Timothy Wu's 'the master switch').
So again some history to deal with there. Whether or not your solution is better is not relevant unless you are willing to push it through the standardization bodies. Now which one do you work with? the internet numbering (skype works pretty well on my phone without a phone number) or the ITUnumbering or a combination. It is an evolution so your recommendations can be taken to account, just need to push it beyond skunkworks.
So as always, your solution is probably better, probably even the best, now if you can make us use it?:-)
Gitau
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>wrote:
Can @bernard explain his two point answer? It doesnt appear to me like his points dictate the current scenario.
Regards
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jangita Nyagudi < jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com> wrote:
true @Odhiambo,
To make it tighter, it could be
x-yyyy-yyyy
x = operator code (for call routing @ bernard) - this will give space for at least 9 operators. Also with MNP this is not needed (see below) yyyy yyyy = subscriber number - this would give space for 99,999,999 subscribers per operator
And now with number portability there is no need for the X since the networks can use HLR lookup on the central number database to find our which network a certain number is registered to, and the call is routed there. So all you would eventually need is a yyyy yyyy phone number which can cater for 99,999,999 (99 million Kenyans). This would actually make good use of the hardware and software put in place for MNP so we would all have 8 digit numbers.
On 12 June 2012 16:14, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent question. I've always wondered this as well
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Skunks, > > Please help me understand. > > Let's say Kenya has 50 million citizen and 4 mobile network operators. > > Suppose each MNO was given just a single PREFIX, and told to use 10-digit > numbers (072 000 000 0000) wouldn't it suffice to serve all Kenyans? > > I am just imagining wildly why this is not the case? > > What is the justification for all these prefixes? > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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bernard kioko -
Bernard Mwagiru -
Garr Patronas -
Jangita Nyagudi -
Jared Koyier -
John Gitau -
Odhiambo Washington -
Rad!