Hey guys, I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt for Postfix or even better QMail. I need to know which is the best MTA application to use for factors like security management, spam handling, capacity handling, server resource utilization, management etc and can you incoorperate multiple accounts on different domains? Regards TheMburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
On 18 August 2010 09:38, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale.
I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt for Postfix or even better QMail. I need to know which is the best MTA application to use for factors like security management, spam handling, capacity handling, server resource utilization, management etc and can you incoorperate multiple accounts on different domains?
I would recommend Exim (www.*exim*.org) -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ 'spɹɐƃǝɹ ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp
Try www.zimbra.com Kind Regards, Alex Mwega ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Njuki" <njukey@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:52:40 AM GMT +03:00 Iraq Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Mail Server opinions On 18 August 2010 09:38, George Njoroge < themburu@gmail.com > wrote: Hey guys, I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt for Postfix or even better QMail. I need to know which is the best MTA application to use for factors like security management, spam handling, capacity handling, server resource utilization, management etc and can you incoorperate multiple accounts on different domains? I would recommend Exim ( www. exim .org) -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ 'spɹɐƃǝɹ ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
You can try zimbra though you need to note that its a really heavy server and also its web interface uses ajax and can be really bad on sites with low bandwidth speed. Otherwise it is an amazing server with lots of capabilities. Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale.
I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt for Postfix or even better QMail. I need to know which is the best MTA application to use for factors like security management, spam handling, capacity handling, server resource utilization, management etc and can you incoorperate multiple accounts on different domains?
Regards
TheMburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt
Exim. BR, S -- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
Hi guys, The question is really why a specific and comparison not really to try out. Cheers TheMburu On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt
Exim.
BR, S
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Zimbra is a good option, If you are looking to procure also you can talk to us we offer mail server services and Zimbra is one of the options. thanks regards Oliver -07133777001 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt
Exim.
BR, S
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Hi Oliver, Had you tried out the others eg postfix, qmail or exim. What is their comparison to Zimbra, seems most guys are recommending Zimbra. How does it handle Spams, security and multiple domains also is it easy on resources? Regards George On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Zimbra is a good option,
If you are looking to procure also you can talk to us we offer mail server services and Zimbra is one of the options. thanks
regards Oliver -07133777001
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt
Exim.
BR, S
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Oliver,
Had you tried out the others eg postfix, qmail or exim. What is their comparison to Zimbra, seems most guys are recommending Zimbra. How does it handle Spams, security and multiple domains also is it easy on resources?
Zimbra is nice, but a resource hog! Zimbra, to me, is just the Ajax interface for management and webmail. Under the hood, it is Postfix, OpenLDAP (iirc), etc. It does all you wanted though, but are you willing to pay for the cost? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Zimbra doesnt come cheap...there are trial versions on the web so try it out and you can drop me a mail with your quote request. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Oliver,
Had you tried out the others eg postfix, qmail or exim. What is their comparison to Zimbra, seems most guys are recommending Zimbra. How does it handle Spams, security and multiple domains also is it easy on resources?
Zimbra is nice, but a resource hog! Zimbra, to me, is just the Ajax interface for management and webmail. Under the hood, it is Postfix, OpenLDAP (iirc), etc. It does all you wanted though, but are you willing to pay for the cost?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Why pay for Zimbra.... get open source edition and have it up... and customize.. zimbra also is not that resource hungry... depends on your deployment and features you want.... which you can define as class of service. hence having optimized. below are server requirement if you need zimbra with full email and collaboration features. Production environments • Minimum - 32-bit OS with Intel/AMD 2.0 GHZ+ CPU Recommended - 64-bit OS • Minimum - 2 GB RAM Recommend minimum - 4 GB RAM • Temp file space for installs and upgrades* • 10 GB free disk space for software and logs (SATA or SCSI for performance, and RAID/Mirroring for redundancy) • Additional disk space for mail storage *Temp files space- The zimbra-store requires 5GB for /opt/zimbra, plus additional space for mail storage. The other nodes require 100MB. General Requirements • Firewall Configuration should be set to “No firewall”, and the Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) should be disabled • RAID-5 is not recommended for installations with more than 100 accounts.
Free Licenses? @ Josy kindly respond to my mail.... On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Josy Ngatia <josyveros@gmail.com> wrote:
Why pay for Zimbra.... get open source edition and have it up... and customize.. zimbra also is not that resource hungry... depends on your deployment and features you want.... which you can define as class of service. hence having optimized.
below are server requirement if you need zimbra with full email and collaboration features.
Production environments • Minimum - 32-bit OS with Intel/AMD 2.0 GHZ+ CPU Recommended - 64-bit OS • Minimum - 2 GB RAM Recommend minimum - 4 GB RAM • Temp file space for installs and upgrades* • 10 GB free disk space for software and logs (SATA or SCSI for performance, and RAID/Mirroring for redundancy) • Additional disk space for mail storage *Temp files space- The zimbra-store requires 5GB for /opt/zimbra, plus additional space for mail storage. The other nodes require 100MB. General Requirements • Firewall Configuration should be set to “No firewall”, and the Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) should be disabled • RAID-5 is not recommended for installations with more than 100 accounts.
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Free Licenses? @ Josy kindly respond to my mail....
There are two versions of Zimbra - Commercial one and the Open Source version. Open Source == Free Licenses, perhaps? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Ok, Will try out Exim and postfix before I put either in production. Thanks guys. George On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
Free Licenses? @ Josy kindly respond to my mail....
There are two versions of Zimbra - Commercial one and the Open Source version. Open Source == Free Licenses, perhaps?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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You will never notice the difference, just pick either and be good at it, then u'll get the rewards. I lean more to exim, but also run postfix ./Ok3ch On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:46 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, Will try out Exim and postfix before I put either in production. Thanks guys. George
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
Free Licenses? @ Josy kindly respond to my mail....
There are two versions of Zimbra - Commercial one and the Open Source version. Open Source == Free Licenses, perhaps?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys,
I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale.
I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt for Postfix or even better QMail.
Ati, "even better, Qmail"? My friend, QMail is dead!
I need to know which is the best MTA application to use for factors like security management, spam handling, capacity handling, server resource utilization, management etc and can you incoorperate multiple accounts on different domains?
Exim or Postfix will do. Postfix beats Exim in queue processing (only!). Exim configuration language is so flexible that the moment you understand it, you can typically do anything under the sun! I'm biased towards Exim any time. Talking of management, I wonder what you mean. Multiple accounts on different domain is also called "virtual domains" and that is supported by both, using flat files, DBs like MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, OpenLDAP, sqlite... Capacity handling and resource utilization depends on how you "tune" your server (disk speeds, RAM) and the SMTP engine. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Alex Mwega -
Alvin Jason Ochieng -
Amarjit Labhuram -
David Njuki -
George Njoroge -
Josy Ngatia -
Odhiambo Washington -
Okechukwu -
Oliver Ndegwa -
Steve Muchai