I think the price is quite good if it includes both windows 8.1 and office 2013. Considering the 2 cost around 25k-30k depending with the version of office.
By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail. Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper. Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:04:40 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke I think the price is quite good if it includes both windows 8.1 and office 2013. Considering the 2 cost around 25k-30k depending with the version of office.
The price with the specs don't make sense Emali Morgan Team Leader Webonmobi.com Physical Address: AAYMCA Building 2nd Floor, State House Cresent, Nairobi Mobile: 0719510136 Website: www.webonmobi.com Blog: ww.webonmobi.com/blog Facebook: Facebook.com/webonmobi Twitter: twitter.com/webonmobiseo Internet Marketing, Website Development On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail.
Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper.
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I think the price is quite good if it includes both windows 8.1 and office 2013. Considering the 2 cost around 25k-30k depending with the version of office.
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Reading these comments paints a very bleak future for Kenya at least on industrialization. It's not the best laptop, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. Kenya is a gross importer and it's messing us big time and we need to change our mindset and encourage home-grown solutions 'India style'. Give positive criticism not discourage. Have a lovely weekend. Regards, Job Muriuki, Skype: heviejob On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Morgan Emali via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The price with the specs don't make sense
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By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail.
Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:04:40 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
I think the price is quite good if it includes both windows 8.1 and office 2013. Considering the 2 cost around 25k-30k depending with the version of office.
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So whats so Kenyan about this laptop,branding? Someone enlighten. On Jun 12, 2015 7:31 PM, "Job Muriuki via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Reading these comments paints a very bleak future for Kenya at least on industrialization. It's not the best laptop, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. Kenya is a gross importer and it's messing us big time and we need to change our mindset and encourage home-grown solutions 'India style'.
Give positive criticism not discourage. Have a lovely weekend.
Regards, Job Muriuki,
Skype: heviejob
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Morgan Emali via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The price with the specs don't make sense
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail.
Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper.
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:04:40 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
I think the price is quite good if it includes both windows 8.1 and office 2013. Considering the 2 cost around 25k-30k depending with the version of office.
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It’s so easy to criticize but putting in mind that the design and assembling was done locally makes some sense. This adds to what BRCK and Able Wireless have been doing though most Kenyans want to foreign stuff than local. At 49/50k this boys have tried and we all need to lobby so they have subsidies and have the govt as the first buyer to give the Taifa to high school kids countrywide than the current bogus plan to spend 17b on corruption and kids need BMX bikes and Nintendos than computers to code. From: mabeya conseray via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:11 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List; Job Muriuki Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop So whats so Kenyan about this laptop,branding? Someone enlighten. On Jun 12, 2015 7:31 PM, "Job Muriuki via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Reading these comments paints a very bleak future for Kenya at least on industrialization. It's not the best laptop, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. Kenya is a gross importer and it's messing us big time and we need to change our mindset and encourage home-grown solutions 'India style'. Give positive criticism not discourage. Have a lovely weekend. Regards, Job Muriuki, Skype: heviejob On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Morgan Emali via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: The price with the specs don't make sense Emali Morgan Team Leader Webonmobi.com Physical Address: AAYMCA Building 2nd Floor, State House Cresent, Nairobi Mobile: 0719510136 Website: www.webonmobi.com Blog: ww.webonmobi.com/blog Facebook: Facebook.com/webonmobi Twitter: twitter.com/webonmobiseo Internet Marketing, Website Development On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail. Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper. _____ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:04:40 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke I think the price is quite good if it includes both windows 8.1 and office 2013. Considering the 2 cost around 25k-30k depending with the version of office. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
It simply lacks the wow factor as it is just another laptop. So the value proposition is "made in Kenya" and at that price? Designed in Kenya includes using the Sony Vaio Font for the logo too while there is a ton more out there and even tools to create new ones? Ama hawakuwa na laptop walikuwa wanangoja hii yao? BRCK and Able wireless have something unique in them which makes them stand out not this Taifa thing with respect to the information already out there.
From Zero to One by Peter Thiel:
· If you lose sight of the competitive reality and focus on trivial differentiating factors – maybe you think your naan is superior because of your great grandmother’s recipe – your business is unlikely to survive.
Stephen Wanjau Tel:+254 722 238 165 | Skype ID: mana.nas | Twitter ID: uwanja <http://www.twitter.com/uwanja> | *It is within reach. Believe it. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Sam Wakoba via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
It’s so easy to criticize but putting in mind that the design and assembling was done locally makes some sense. This adds to what BRCK and Able Wireless have been doing though most Kenyans want to foreign stuff than local. At 49/50k this boys have tried and we all need to lobby so they have subsidies and have the govt as the first buyer to give the Taifa to high school kids countrywide than the current bogus plan to spend 17b on corruption and kids need BMX bikes and Nintendos than computers to code.
*From:* mabeya conseray via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 8:11 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List; Job Muriuki
*Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop
So whats so Kenyan about this laptop,branding? Someone enlighten.
On Jun 12, 2015 7:31 PM, "Job Muriuki via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Reading these comments paints a very bleak future for Kenya at least on
industrialization.
It's not the best laptop, but it's certainly a step in the right direction.
Kenya is a gross importer and it's messing us big time and we need to change
our mindset and encourage home-grown solutions 'India style'.
Give positive criticism not discourage. Have a lovely weekend.
Regards, Job Muriuki,
Skype: heviejob
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Morgan Emali via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The price with the specs don't make sense
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail.
Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper. ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:04:40 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
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@Sam, that's setting the standards very low. Remember we are in 2015. We are competing with the world. The Kenyan consumer is exposed to the universal market and all it has to offer. It's a global village and we need to learn fast that a new product even in the distant corner of the planet is a potential competitor. Who would have guessed that Uber would be disrupting Nairobi taxi operations? And BRCK is way way different.
From Techweez: "The University will import custom design and general design parts then assemble them into whole units in the TAIFA range of products."
The only value proposition here would be low price (economies of scale). Otherwise, there is nothing new that I wouldn't get from the general market. Suggestion: Lower the price to around 25k. That would be a game changer. On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Stephen Wanjau via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
It simply lacks the wow factor as it is just another laptop. So the value proposition is "made in Kenya" and at that price? Designed in Kenya includes using the Sony Vaio Font for the logo too while there is a ton more out there and even tools to create new ones? Ama hawakuwa na laptop walikuwa wanangoja hii yao?
BRCK and Able wireless have something unique in them which makes them stand out not this Taifa thing with respect to the information already out there.
From Zero to One by Peter Thiel:
· If you lose sight of the competitive reality and focus on trivial differentiating factors – maybe you think your naan is superior because of your great grandmother’s recipe – your business is unlikely to survive.
Stephen Wanjau
Tel:+254 722 238 165 | Skype ID: mana.nas | Twitter ID: uwanja <http://www.twitter.com/uwanja> |
*It is within reach. Believe it. *
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Sam Wakoba via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
It’s so easy to criticize but putting in mind that the design and assembling was done locally makes some sense. This adds to what BRCK and Able Wireless have been doing though most Kenyans want to foreign stuff than local. At 49/50k this boys have tried and we all need to lobby so they have subsidies and have the govt as the first buyer to give the Taifa to high school kids countrywide than the current bogus plan to spend 17b on corruption and kids need BMX bikes and Nintendos than computers to code.
*From:* mabeya conseray via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke]
*Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 8:11 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List; Job Muriuki
*Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop
So whats so Kenyan about this laptop,branding? Someone enlighten.
On Jun 12, 2015 7:31 PM, "Job Muriuki via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Reading these comments paints a very bleak future for Kenya at least on
industrialization.
It's not the best laptop, but it's certainly a step in the right direction.
Kenya is a gross importer and it's messing us big time and we need to change
our mindset and encourage home-grown solutions 'India style'.
Give positive criticism not discourage. Have a lovely weekend.
Regards, Job Muriuki,
Skype: heviejob
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Morgan Emali via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The price with the specs don't make sense
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
By partnering with M$ I believe the costs of licensing are lower than retail.
Marketing a locally assembled product of unknown quality at the same list price as global brands seems laughable to me. At least the Nyayo Pioneer car project was intended to be cheaper. ------------------------------
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:04:40 +0300 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Taifa Laptop From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
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Let me way in on this one. Forget the naysayers. The TaifaLaptop project is the way to go. Remember the Indian and Chinese firms which started small? They used perfectly the philosophy of "imitate then innovate". Tata, Huawei, ZTE, Mahindra all fall in this category. Tata went on to be so big it bought Land Rover. When visiting Huawei factory in China, you would find then reverse engineering Cisco equipments. Huawei network equipments and telecommunications devices are now mainstream. Let us support local brands, we never know, Taifa Laptop may one day buy Apple :)
Am all for supporting local brands but that should not mean lowered standards. Keep the quality high price it competitively and it should take off. Sometimes cheap pricing gives an impression of low standard or inferior product. On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Let me way in on this one. Forget the naysayers. The TaifaLaptop project is the way to go. Remember the Indian and Chinese firms which started small? They used perfectly the philosophy of "imitate then innovate". Tata, Huawei, ZTE, Mahindra all fall in this category. Tata went on to be so big it bought Land Rover. When visiting Huawei factory in China, you would find then reverse engineering Cisco equipments. Huawei network equipments and telecommunications devices are now mainstream.
Let us support local brands, we never know, Taifa Laptop may one day buy Apple :)
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Let us just sigh and hope the brand will catch on without it getting pushed at us. I mean, any skunk can go to China and pull the same feat. You can get basically anything done in China and branded a local name. You see, the difference between Techno, Samsung, InJoo etc, is the boot logo, put in a different command and that partners logo shows up at boot up. I m not the kind that gets entertained by some small stunts. I'd rather buy HP, same specs, lower price, legendary reliability and durability. These others are side shows i'd rather leave for the market to determine viability. PO On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am all for supporting local brands but that should not mean lowered standards. Keep the quality high price it competitively and it should take off. Sometimes cheap pricing gives an impression of low standard or inferior product.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Let me way in on this one. Forget the naysayers. The TaifaLaptop project is the way to go. Remember the Indian and Chinese firms which started small? They used perfectly the philosophy of "imitate then innovate". Tata, Huawei, ZTE, Mahindra all fall in this category. Tata went on to be so big it bought Land Rover. When visiting Huawei factory in China, you would find then reverse engineering Cisco equipments. Huawei network equipments and telecommunications devices are now mainstream.
Let us support local brands, we never know, Taifa Laptop may one day buy Apple :)
These people are taking us for fool! i would only buy it even at a higher price if i knew its good and a-x if not a-Z is locally made/done. Wish it came even with Linux and locally developed apps that m$, that way since we know its only assembled locally it will have some KE sense. So what is local in the Laptop, maybe the OS installers, assemblers (watu sio language). Wanatubeba aje hawa watu? Kind Regards, Wilson./ On 13 June 2015 at 12:30, Peter Osotsi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Let us just sigh and hope the brand will catch on without it getting pushed at us. I mean, any skunk can go to China and pull the same feat. You can get basically anything done in China and branded a local name. You see, the difference between Techno, Samsung, InJoo etc, is the boot logo, put in a different command and that partners logo shows up at boot up.
I m not the kind that gets entertained by some small stunts. I'd rather buy HP, same specs, lower price, legendary reliability and durability. These others are side shows i'd rather leave for the market to determine viability.
PO
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am all for supporting local brands but that should not mean lowered standards. Keep the quality high price it competitively and it should take off. Sometimes cheap pricing gives an impression of low standard or inferior product.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Let me way in on this one. Forget the naysayers. The TaifaLaptop project is the way to go. Remember the Indian and Chinese firms which started small? They used perfectly the philosophy of "imitate then innovate". Tata, Huawei, ZTE, Mahindra all fall in this category. Tata went on to be so big it bought Land Rover. When visiting Huawei factory in China, you would find then reverse engineering Cisco equipments. Huawei network equipments and telecommunications devices are now mainstream.
Let us support local brands, we never know, Taifa Laptop may one day buy Apple :)
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Am informed (not confirmed) that it comes with locally developed applications that facilitate teaching and content delivery for classroom and lecture environments - also Android App to facilitate the content delivery to portables devices. The team should have provided an unboxing video to showcase what value-addition there is though. On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Thuo Wilson via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
These people are taking us for fool! i would only buy it even at a higher price if i knew its good and a-x if not a-Z is locally made/done.
Wish it came even with Linux and locally developed apps that m$, that way since we know its only assembled locally it will have some KE sense. So what is local in the Laptop, maybe the OS installers, assemblers (watu sio language).
Wanatubeba aje hawa watu?
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 13 June 2015 at 12:30, Peter Osotsi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Let us just sigh and hope the brand will catch on without it getting pushed at us. I mean, any skunk can go to China and pull the same feat. You can get basically anything done in China and branded a local name. You see, the difference between Techno, Samsung, InJoo etc, is the boot logo, put in a different command and that partners logo shows up at boot up.
I m not the kind that gets entertained by some small stunts. I'd rather buy HP, same specs, lower price, legendary reliability and durability. These others are side shows i'd rather leave for the market to determine viability.
PO
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am all for supporting local brands but that should not mean lowered standards. Keep the quality high price it competitively and it should take off. Sometimes cheap pricing gives an impression of low standard or inferior product.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Let me way in on this one. Forget the naysayers. The TaifaLaptop project is the way to go. Remember the Indian and Chinese firms which started small? They used perfectly the philosophy of "imitate then innovate". Tata, Huawei, ZTE, Mahindra all fall in this category. Tata went on to be so big it bought Land Rover. When visiting Huawei factory in China, you would find then reverse engineering Cisco equipments. Huawei network equipments and telecommunications devices are now mainstream.
Let us support local brands, we never know, Taifa Laptop may one day buy Apple :)
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