Re: [Skunkworks] Can you build teams... if? thanks Paul
Thanks for your response Paul, i am looking at it from point number 3 in your list, given the challenging nature of Projects conducted in teams, the ICT board could create a Special Purpose Vehicle, that would identify the needs of each project and try to match them with available expertise on the lists, the board can also provide guarantees to the client and once the project is delivered, the board can take its cut in the form of management costs (something similar to the way KBS manages peoples matatus), this would help to bring more focus into the projects, my thoughts are based on the number of Collaborative projects that have been brought up on this forum but they dont seem to take of despite their economic viability. Those are my thoughs Thank you On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRUM is an idea.
I suggest setting up a wiki where everyone can register with skillset and availability....
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Pride <pride.njukia@swiftglobal.co.ke>wrote:
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Nyc one, i have been toying with the idea too, and am more than willing to contribute even in the least level, not yet a pro developer but i got the interest and will to go the extra mile.
So when do we start?
P
aki wrote:
Hello. I'm glad you mention it. Project X was an idea too that I wanted to share about the creation of kenya's first distributable Open Source Corporate solution ( a commercial concept ). I even went into all the details of how the suggested work flow would work. There was some interest but my serious handicap was that I'm not a developer ( give me a few years ) nor did I get any feedback from developers. The project is still open to anyone who'd want to implement it. I know of a brazilian company who would have easily done it for me at a cost ( including private labelling ) but this is not my interest and that would defeat its creation. In brazil ( I've never been there ), open source solutions have a very strong market presence and many companies customize them.
A recap of Project X : create a local distribuatble DVD linux/freebsd solution to contain Mail Server, Firewall Server, Squid Server, 2 Network card Interfaces, NDIS, NTLM or OLDAP, Web Interface etc.
Sales : Distribute the DVD to super markets or any outlets. Purchase cost is eg Ksh 300/-. Silly self install system DVD, anyone can create a full server in a matter of minutes, no foss knowledge or experience required. ( ISO installer )
Support : Annual support billable. This revenue would create chances for new developers while existing developers would get revenue. This also creates a professional approach to offering the above.
I moved on to other things in my personal time so I hope someone will implement it one day... :-)
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally, Crystal Offered to do something not many can do.He is ready to get a team of skunks and skunkettes to form a team to work through project X(Aki... what happened to these project?),and am sure if they team up with Walu,then Project Management isnt an issue.
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Barrack, perhaps you want to share Paul's email with everyone? Al Kags ----------------------- Founder, The Desturi Trust http://www.alkags.com On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks for your response Paul, i am looking at it from point number 3 in your list, given the challenging nature of Projects conducted in teams, the ICT board could create a Special Purpose Vehicle, that would identify the needs of each project and try to match them with available expertise on the lists, the board can also provide guarantees to the client and once the project is delivered, the board can take its cut in the form of management costs (something similar to the way KBS manages peoples matatus), this would help to bring more focus into the projects, my thoughts are based on the number of Collaborative projects that have been brought up on this forum but they dont seem to take of despite their economic viability. Those are my thoughs Thank you
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRUM is an idea.
I suggest setting up a wiki where everyone can register with skillset and availability....
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Pride <pride.njukia@swiftglobal.co.ke>wrote:
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Nyc one, i have been toying with the idea too, and am more than willing to contribute even in the least level, not yet a pro developer but i got the interest and will to go the extra mile.
So when do we start?
P
aki wrote:
Hello. I'm glad you mention it. Project X was an idea too that I wanted to share about the creation of kenya's first distributable Open Source Corporate solution ( a commercial concept ). I even went into all the details of how the suggested work flow would work. There was some interest but my serious handicap was that I'm not a developer ( give me a few years ) nor did I get any feedback from developers. The project is still open to anyone who'd want to implement it. I know of a brazilian company who would have easily done it for me at a cost ( including private labelling ) but this is not my interest and that would defeat its creation. In brazil ( I've never been there ), open source solutions have a very strong market presence and many companies customize them.
A recap of Project X : create a local distribuatble DVD linux/freebsd solution to contain Mail Server, Firewall Server, Squid Server, 2 Network card Interfaces, NDIS, NTLM or OLDAP, Web Interface etc.
Sales : Distribute the DVD to super markets or any outlets. Purchase cost is eg Ksh 300/-. Silly self install system DVD, anyone can create a full server in a matter of minutes, no foss knowledge or experience required. ( ISO installer )
Support : Annual support billable. This revenue would create chances for new developers while existing developers would get revenue. This also creates a professional approach to offering the above.
I moved on to other things in my personal time so I hope someone will implement it one day... :-)
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally, Crystal Offered to do something not many can do.He is ready to get a team of skunks and skunkettes to form a team to work through project X(Aki... what happened to these project?),and am sure if they team up with Walu,then Project Management isnt an issue.
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Kind Regards,
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-- With Regards,
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Sure Al, i think it was broadcast on the list, if not i will forward it since he raised various points that answered most of my queries Thanks On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
Barrack, perhaps you want to share Paul's email with everyone? Al Kags ----------------------- Founder, The Desturi Trust http://www.alkags.com
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks for your response Paul, i am looking at it from point number 3 in your list, given the challenging nature of Projects conducted in teams, the ICT board could create a Special Purpose Vehicle, that would identify the needs of each project and try to match them with available expertise on the lists, the board can also provide guarantees to the client and once the project is delivered, the board can take its cut in the form of management costs (something similar to the way KBS manages peoples matatus), this would help to bring more focus into the projects, my thoughts are based on the number of Collaborative projects that have been brought up on this forum but they dont seem to take of despite their economic viability. Those are my thoughs Thank you
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRUM is an idea.
I suggest setting up a wiki where everyone can register with skillset and availability....
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Pride <pride.njukia@swiftglobal.co.ke>wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Nyc one, i have been toying with the idea too, and am more than willing to contribute even in the least level, not yet a pro developer but i got the interest and will to go the extra mile.
So when do we start?
P
aki wrote:
Hello. I'm glad you mention it. Project X was an idea too that I wanted to share about the creation of kenya's first distributable Open Source Corporate solution ( a commercial concept ). I even went into all the details of how the suggested work flow would work. There was some interest but my serious handicap was that I'm not a developer ( give me a few years ) nor did I get any feedback from developers. The project is still open to anyone who'd want to implement it. I know of a brazilian company who would have easily done it for me at a cost ( including private labelling ) but this is not my interest and that would defeat its creation. In brazil ( I've never been there ), open source solutions have a very strong market presence and many companies customize them.
A recap of Project X : create a local distribuatble DVD linux/freebsd solution to contain Mail Server, Firewall Server, Squid Server, 2 Network card Interfaces, NDIS, NTLM or OLDAP, Web Interface etc.
Sales : Distribute the DVD to super markets or any outlets. Purchase cost is eg Ksh 300/-. Silly self install system DVD, anyone can create a full server in a matter of minutes, no foss knowledge or experience required. ( ISO installer )
Support : Annual support billable. This revenue would create chances for new developers while existing developers would get revenue. This also creates a professional approach to offering the above.
I moved on to other things in my personal time so I hope someone will implement it one day... :-)
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally, Crystal Offered to do something not many can do.He is ready to get a team of skunks and skunkettes to form a team to work through project X(Aki... what happened to these project?),and am sure if they team up with Walu,then Project Management isnt an issue.
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http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
- --
Kind Regards,
Pride Njukia Systems Administrator Swift Global (K) LTD Parkside Towers, 6th Flr, Mombasa Road, P.O.Box 42164 (00100) Nairobi. Kenya. Tel: 020-6921000 Fax: 020-6921500 Email: hostmaster@swiftkenya.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
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-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |
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-- Barrack O. Otieno ISSEN CONSULTING Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 http://projectdiscovery.or.ke To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones responsibility as a free man. Alan Paton, South Africa
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-- Barrack O. Otieno ISSEN CONSULTING Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 http://projectdiscovery.or.ke To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones responsibility as a free man. Alan Paton, South Africa
Hi, have searched and cant find it. Al Kags ----------------------- Founder, The Desturi Trust http://www.alkags.com On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Sure Al, i think it was broadcast on the list, if not i will forward it since he raised various points that answered most of my queries Thanks
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
Barrack, perhaps you want to share Paul's email with everyone? Al Kags ----------------------- Founder, The Desturi Trust http://www.alkags.com
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your response Paul, i am looking at it from point number 3 in your list, given the challenging nature of Projects conducted in teams, the ICT board could create a Special Purpose Vehicle, that would identify the needs of each project and try to match them with available expertise on the lists, the board can also provide guarantees to the client and once the project is delivered, the board can take its cut in the form of management costs (something similar to the way KBS manages peoples matatus), this would help to bring more focus into the projects, my thoughts are based on the number of Collaborative projects that have been brought up on this forum but they dont seem to take of despite their economic viability. Those are my thoughs Thank you
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRUM is an idea.
I suggest setting up a wiki where everyone can register with skillset and availability....
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Pride <pride.njukia@swiftglobal.co.ke>wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Nyc one, i have been toying with the idea too, and am more than willing to contribute even in the least level, not yet a pro developer but i got the interest and will to go the extra mile.
So when do we start?
P
aki wrote:
Hello. I'm glad you mention it. Project X was an idea too that I wanted to share about the creation of kenya's first distributable Open Source Corporate solution ( a commercial concept ). I even went into all the details of how the suggested work flow would work. There was some interest but my serious handicap was that I'm not a developer ( give me a few years ) nor did I get any feedback from developers. The project is still open to anyone who'd want to implement it. I know of a brazilian company who would have easily done it for me at a cost ( including private labelling ) but this is not my interest and that would defeat its creation. In brazil ( I've never been there ), open source solutions have a very strong market presence and many companies customize them.
A recap of Project X : create a local distribuatble DVD linux/freebsd solution to contain Mail Server, Firewall Server, Squid Server, 2 Network card Interfaces, NDIS, NTLM or OLDAP, Web Interface etc.
Sales : Distribute the DVD to super markets or any outlets. Purchase cost is eg Ksh 300/-. Silly self install system DVD, anyone can create a full server in a matter of minutes, no foss knowledge or experience required. ( ISO installer )
Support : Annual support billable. This revenue would create chances for new developers while existing developers would get revenue. This also creates a professional approach to offering the above.
I moved on to other things in my personal time so I hope someone will implement it one day... :-)
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com> wrote:
> Personally, > Crystal Offered to do something not many can do.He is ready to get a team > of skunks and skunkettes to form a team to work through project X(Aki... > what happened to these project?),and am sure if they team up with Walu,then > Project Management isnt an issue. >
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Kind Regards,
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-- With Regards,
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-- Barrack O. Otieno ISSEN CONSULTING Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 http://projectdiscovery.or.ke To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones responsibility as a free man. Alan Paton, South Africa
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-- Barrack O. Otieno ISSEN CONSULTING Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 http://projectdiscovery.or.ke To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones responsibility as a free man. Alan Paton, South Africa
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