Re: [Skunkworks] Cisco decides to Kill Flip
It depends, and yes Kodak had better be dancing, also note cisco didn't even bother selling that BU, they closed it.... Cisco has been making huge changes, quietly: here's a few (follow the links): 1: they dropped HP as a partner last year: http://blogs.cisco.com/channels/ciscos_evolving_partner_landscape/ 2: John Chambers memo to staff 'leaked'. April 5, 2011. This outlines bold changes in how they do their business, where they'll focus etc etc, a bit late with some changes but still quite bold in accepting their mistakes and working towards a fix. http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-cisco-is-taking... 3: the flip: come on that was not to last. I expect the Cius tablet to go down the same road, the flip lost money!!!, heckphones are taking HD video and sharing it realtime so i doubt even Kodak are any happier, flip couldn't cope cisco were out of their depth and they knew it (the flip had no networking capability,cisco is a networking company:-)), the Cius tablet cant beat the Ipad, samsung galaxy either. They should drop it now. It's like mercedes deciding to roll out umm a car for the 'masses' lets call it a toyota,then over price it. I expect the fancy site with a flashy front to go too, we (techies) expect a clear,clean documentation site like we were used to, cisco had a core business, they are losing it to Huawei and other vendors while chasing what, tablets?,really unsopportable support models? they should be powering the networks tablets are running on!! I am happy with the new focus on their core business and customers...so far... 4: the last change that also came late but still a good thing is this: For a long time, you either had to get the actual cisco routers/switches etc to learn their cli/OS or grab the IOS from somewhere and run dynamips/dynagen. However Internally cisco had the capability to run Ios On Unix (IOU) mainly solaris. As we move along, cisco now has legacy IOS, IOS-XR, ASA and NX-OS, getting those on emulators for testing/benchmarking won't be easy for all of us and I can imagine getting certified will become a bit harder, which means at some point cisco will suffer (HP,juniper et all are not any better either)...Well cisco finally released the IOU as its popularly known to their learning partners, heck if you search for it online you'll get it somewhere...it's what they use for the ccie (R&S)troubleshooting lab. http://www.cisco.com/web/go/learninglabs/index.html https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/blogs/vip-perspectives/2011/04/12/cisco-io... JGitau On Apr 13, 2011 9:30pm, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Cisco has decided to end the life of the flip video in a cost cutting measure.
http://www.macworld.com/article/159195/2011/04/flip_is_dead.html
Based on existing review that isn't sounding like a very good decision
with opposition coming from CNN I reporters and video bloggers. I am
sure Kodak are dancing late into the night.
Kiania D.
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After paying 600M USD in 2009, they'd be dreaming to think they could recover even a half of that amount. I guess it looked like a good idea less than 24 months ago. ;-) In a moment of madness they must have forgotten that they carry across the internet and had no business helping consumers generate it. Kiania On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM, <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
It depends, and yes Kodak had better be dancing, also note cisco didn't even bother selling that BU, they closed it....
Cisco has been making huge changes, quietly: here's a few (follow the links): 1: they dropped HP as a partner last year: http://blogs.cisco.com/channels/ciscos_evolving_partner_landscape/
2: John Chambers memo to staff 'leaked'. April 5, 2011. This outlines bold changes in how they do their business, where they'll focus etc etc, a bit late with some changes but still quite bold in accepting their mistakes and working towards a fix. http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-cisco-is-taking...
3: the flip: come on that was not to last. I expect the Cius tablet to go down the same road, the flip lost money!!!, heckphones are taking HD video and sharing it realtime so i doubt even Kodak are any happier, flip couldn't cope cisco were out of their depth and they knew it (the flip had no networking capability,cisco is a networking company:-)), the Cius tablet cant beat the Ipad, samsung galaxy either. They should drop it now. It's like mercedes deciding to roll out umm a car for the 'masses' lets call it a toyota,then over price it. I expect the fancy site with a flashy front to go too, we (techies) expect a clear,clean documentation site like we were used to, cisco had a core business, they are losing it to Huawei and other vendors while chasing what, tablets?,really unsopportable support models? they should be powering the networks tablets are running on!! I am happy with the new focus on their core business and customers...so far...
4: the last change that also came late but still a good thing is this: For a long time, you either had to get the actual cisco routers/switches etc to learn their cli/OS or grab the IOS from somewhere and run dynamips/dynagen. However Internally cisco had the capability to run Ios On Unix (IOU) mainly solaris. As we move along, cisco now has legacy IOS, IOS-XR, ASA and NX-OS, getting those on emulators for testing/benchmarking won't be easy for all of us and I can imagine getting certified will become a bit harder, which means at some point cisco will suffer (HP,juniper et all are not any better either)...Well cisco finally released the IOU as its popularly known to their learning partners, heck if you search for it online you'll get it somewhere...it's what they use for the ccie (R&S)troubleshooting lab. http://www.cisco.com/web/go/learninglabs/index.html https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/blogs/vip-perspectives/2011/04/12/cisco-io...
JGitau
On Apr 13, 2011 9:30pm, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Cisco has decided to end the life of the flip video in a cost cutting measure.
http://www.macworld.com/article/159195/2011/04/flip_is_dead.html
Based on existing review that isn't sounding like a very good decision
with opposition coming from CNN I reporters and video bloggers. I am
sure Kodak are dancing late into the night.
Kiania D.
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I have no business being in their business, but some of the decisions seem to have been made by over hyped marketers using manipulated data. Something like 'hey lets buy this, it will look cool in peoples pockets' or faces or living rooms, we can beat steve jobs on his pitch:-). big companies like cisco's decline never shows up until its too late. a few near misses with non-core products made them bold,they started losing money; I hope it isn't too late for them:-) that they are not in denial is a good thing. One thing to note: vendors dont last forever and there is always an alternative....ask jambonet:-) On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:41 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
After paying 600M USD in 2009, they'd be dreaming to think they could recover even a half of that amount. I guess it looked like a good idea less than 24 months ago. ;-)
In a moment of madness they must have forgotten that they carry across the internet and had no business helping consumers generate it.
Kiania
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM, <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
It depends, and yes Kodak had better be dancing, also note cisco didn't even bother selling that BU, they closed it....
Cisco has been making huge changes, quietly: here's a few (follow the links): 1: they dropped HP as a partner last year: http://blogs.cisco.com/channels/ciscos_evolving_partner_landscape/
2: John Chambers memo to staff 'leaked'. April 5, 2011. This outlines bold changes in how they do their business, where they'll focus etc etc, a bit late with some changes but still quite bold in accepting their mistakes and working towards a fix. http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-cisco-is-taking...
3: the flip: come on that was not to last. I expect the Cius tablet to go down the same road, the flip lost money!!!, heckphones are taking HD video and sharing it realtime so i doubt even Kodak are any happier, flip couldn't cope cisco were out of their depth and they knew it (the flip had no networking capability,cisco is a networking company:-)), the Cius tablet cant beat the Ipad, samsung galaxy either. They should drop it now. It's like mercedes deciding to roll out umm a car for the 'masses' lets call it a toyota,then over price it. I expect the fancy site with a flashy front to go too, we (techies) expect a clear,clean documentation site like we were used to, cisco had a core business, they are losing it to Huawei and other vendors while chasing what, tablets?,really unsopportable support models? they should be powering the networks tablets are running on!! I am happy with the new focus on their core business and customers...so far...
4: the last change that also came late but still a good thing is this: For a long time, you either had to get the actual cisco routers/switches etc to learn their cli/OS or grab the IOS from somewhere and run dynamips/dynagen. However Internally cisco had the capability to run Ios On Unix (IOU) mainly solaris. As we move along, cisco now has legacy IOS, IOS-XR, ASA and NX-OS, getting those on emulators for testing/benchmarking won't be easy for all of us and I can imagine getting certified will become a bit harder, which means at some point cisco will suffer (HP,juniper et all are not any better either)...Well cisco finally released the IOU as its popularly known to their learning partners, heck if you search for it online you'll get it somewhere...it's what they use for the ccie (R&S)troubleshooting lab. http://www.cisco.com/web/go/learninglabs/index.html https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/blogs/vip-perspectives/2011/04/12/cisco-io...
JGitau
On Apr 13, 2011 9:30pm, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Cisco has decided to end the life of the flip video in a cost cutting measure.
http://www.macworld.com/article/159195/2011/04/flip_is_dead.html
Based on existing review that isn't sounding like a very good decision
with opposition coming from CNN I reporters and video bloggers. I am
sure Kodak are dancing late into the night.
Kiania D.
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