
Guys, Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views? Mambo.

First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV. Its an injustice to the world of colour. On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. George Bernard Shaw

CNN SKy BBC go through transformations every year or 2 NTV has had three or four in the last 10 years. Its the media way of sustaining viewers On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV.
Its an injustice to the world of colour.
On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
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That logo really shocked me, i wonder who got paid to do that, and the way some kenyans(hard to find) are very talented On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
CNN SKy BBC go through transformations every year or 2 NTV has had three or four in the last 10 years. Its the media way of sustaining viewers
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV.
Its an injustice to the world of colour.
On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
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I think they need to reduce all that colour, looks like Children channel Children are always awed bt too many colours like the rainbow The logo - sisemi kitu :)) On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com> wrote:
That logo really shocked me, i wonder who got paid to do that, and the way some kenyans(hard to find) are very talented
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
CNN SKy BBC go through transformations every year or 2 NTV has had three or four in the last 10 years. Its the media way of sustaining viewers
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV.
Its an injustice to the world of colour.
On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
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To be honest, children (well people below the age of 17) and women are the biggest drivers of retail sales. Retailers, both goods and services, are the biggest spenders of advertising. It is therefore instructive that NTV, actually NMG in total has taken upon itself to fully appeal to these 2 groups. If u dont believe me, just pick up a copy of last week's Saturday magazine and compare it to a five year old one... in last week's copy there would only be 1 or 2 pages that are meant for adult men. I think for us to find out whether the new logo is better we should ask a 13 year old! That's the focus. (btw a show like 90210 on the new late nite line up is very juvenile - with 15 and 16 year olds talkin about their parties!) On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 21:40 +0300, pithon kamau wrote:
I think they need to reduce all that colour, looks like Children channel Children are always awed bt too many colours like the rainbow The logo - sisemi kitu :))
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com> wrote: That logo really shocked me, i wonder who got paid to do that, and the way some kenyans(hard to find) are very talented
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote: CNN SKy BBC go through transformations every year or 2 NTV has had three or four in the last 10 years. Its the media way of sustaining viewers
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV.
Its an injustice to the world of colour.
On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote: > Guys, > > Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What > are your views? > > > Mambo. >
-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
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Did someone also notice the font on the letters ntv looks so close to dstv that shows no originality at all? ./Ok3ch On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
To be honest, children (well people below the age of 17) and women are the biggest drivers of retail sales. Retailers, both goods and services, are the biggest spenders of advertising. It is therefore instructive that NTV, actually NMG in total has taken upon itself to fully appeal to these 2 groups. If u dont believe me, just pick up a copy of last week's Saturday magazine and compare it to a five year old one... in last week's copy there would only be 1 or 2 pages that are meant for adult men. I think for us to find out whether the new logo is better we should ask a 13 year old! That's the focus. (btw a show like 90210 on the new late nite line up is very juvenile - with 15 and 16 year olds talkin about their parties!)
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 21:40 +0300, pithon kamau wrote:
I think they need to reduce all that colour, looks like Children channel Children are always awed bt too many colours like the rainbow The logo - sisemi kitu :))
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com> wrote: That logo really shocked me, i wonder who got paid to do that, and the way some kenyans(hard to find) are very talented
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote: CNN SKy BBC go through transformations every year or 2 NTV has had three or four in the last 10 years. Its the media way of sustaining viewers
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV.
Its an injustice to the world of colour.
On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote: > Guys, > > Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What > are your views? > > > Mambo. >
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What logo are you guys talking about? What I saw was a ribbon, am yet to see the logo so far. Iguess the guys are running scared of the GroupAfrica TV station, and decided to pre empt it. Let the viewer be the judge. 2009/7/10 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
Did someone also notice the font on the letters ntv looks so close to dstv that shows no originality at all? ./Ok3ch
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
To be honest, children (well people below the age of 17) and women are the biggest drivers of retail sales. Retailers, both goods and services, are the biggest spenders of advertising. It is therefore instructive that NTV, actually NMG in total has taken upon itself to fully appeal to these 2 groups. If u dont believe me, just pick up a copy of last week's Saturday magazine and compare it to a five year old one... in last week's copy there would only be 1 or 2 pages that are meant for adult men. I think for us to find out whether the new logo is better we should ask a 13 year old! That's the focus. (btw a show like 90210 on the new late nite line up is very juvenile - with 15 and 16 year olds talkin about their parties!)
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 21:40 +0300, pithon kamau wrote:
I think they need to reduce all that colour, looks like Children channel Children are always awed bt too many colours like the rainbow The logo - sisemi kitu :))
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com> wrote: That logo really shocked me, i wonder who got paid to do that, and the way some kenyans(hard to find) are very talented
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote: CNN SKy BBC go through transformations every year or 2 NTV has had three or four in the last 10 years. Its the media way of sustaining viewers
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: First, NTV is undergoing through too many transformations, then, it just looks like a downward spiral and every time, these things just appear out of the blue. I had been off local TV for a while and i was almost convinced i was watching some of those funny TV stations (UTV, Ch2 or something like that when i saw in the news that it was actually NTV.
Its an injustice to the world of colour.
On 7/9/09, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote: > Guys, > > Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What > are your views? > > > Mambo. >
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That logo reminds me of the logo KTN had back in the 90's. I wonder who designed that and whether he/she was paid for it. Jesus? What were they thinking? With logos, you go for simplicity. I still think the original NTV logo was better that the ones that followed. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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True . . .I also loved the first logo kwanza the way it transformed from a shield to the letter N . ,also the different people with the 'shuka' . .Much beta than these shiny noisy logos . . . On 7/9/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
That logo reminds me of the logo KTN had back in the 90's. I wonder who designed that and whether he/she was paid for it. Jesus? What were they thinking?
With logos, you go for simplicity. I still think the original NTV logo was better that the ones that followed.
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Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
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You know I think it looks great. Looks vivid and bright. I like it. But now they have to stop changing things around. Kags. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:43:54 To: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] New NTV logo True . . .I also loved the first logo kwanza the way it transformed from a shield to the letter N . ,also the different people with the 'shuka' . .Much beta than these shiny noisy logos . . . On 7/9/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
That logo reminds me of the logo KTN had back in the 90's. I wonder who designed that and whether he/she was paid for it. Jesus? What were they thinking?
With logos, you go for simplicity. I still think the original NTV logo was better that the ones that followed.
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Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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Much said ! - I like it for real! 2009/7/9 Al Kags <alkags@ict.go.ke>
You know I think it looks great. Looks vivid and bright. I like it. But now they have to stop changing things around.
Kags. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:43:54 To: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] New NTV logo
True . . .I also loved the first logo kwanza the way it transformed from a shield to the letter N . ,also the different people with the 'shuka' . .Much beta than these shiny noisy logos . . .
On 7/9/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
That logo reminds me of the logo KTN had back in the 90's. I wonder who designed that and whether he/she was paid for it. Jesus? What were they thinking?
With logos, you go for simplicity. I still think the original NTV logo was better that the ones that followed.
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Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
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I cant agree more with the rest of you Skunkee's, but am sure staff at Nation must have objected in having that horid NTV logo..but some boss somewhere who lacks ideas and creativity overruled everyone...i stand to be corrected. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
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I have nothing to say on that logo, let the artistic speak. But let me introduce you to the worst logo ever designed - the London 2012 olympics official logo. It was reported that the colours caused fits among children. Cant remember the exact link but the dude was paid £400,000 for the job. Interestingly he is the same guy who did the Safaricom logo. All i remember is that his site looked like a Kenya Times newspaper! On 7/10/09, patrick wachira <thiggss@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant agree more with the rest of you Skunkee's, but am sure staff at Nation must have objected in having that horid NTV logo..but some boss somewhere who lacks ideas and creativity overruled everyone...i stand to be corrected.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
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ken, For all the accolades you heaped on the designer of the London 2012 Olympics official logo (we can now establish it is Wolff Olins) I couldnt help but google him to see for myself. Ladies and gentlemen, you had only seen a tip of the iceberg in the NTV logo.. the rest of the iceberg is here<http://www.wolffolins.com/#>! I am awe-struck :) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:10 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I have nothing to say on that logo, let the artistic speak. But let me introduce you to the worst logo ever designed - the London 2012 olympics official logo. It was reported that the colours caused fits among children. Cant remember the exact link but the dude was paid £400,000 for the job. Interestingly he is the same guy who did the Safaricom logo. All i remember is that his site looked like a Kenya Times newspaper!
On 7/10/09, patrick wachira <thiggss@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant agree more with the rest of you Skunkee's, but am sure staff at Nation must have objected in having that horid NTV logo..but some boss somewhere who lacks ideas and creativity overruled everyone...i stand to be corrected.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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I think this Wolf guy may have done the NTV logo. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
ken,
For all the accolades you heaped on the designer of the London 2012 Olympics official logo (we can now establish it is Wolff Olins) I couldnt help but google him to see for myself. Ladies and gentlemen, you had only seen a tip of the iceberg in the NTV logo.. the rest of the iceberg is here <http://www.wolffolins.com/#> !
I am awe-struck :)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:10 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I have nothing to say on that logo, let the artistic speak. But let me introduce you to the worst logo ever designed - the London 2012 olympics official logo. It was reported that the colours caused fits among children. Cant remember the exact link but the dude was paid £400,000 for the job. Interestingly he is the same guy who did the Safaricom logo. All i remember is that his site looked like a Kenya Times newspaper!
On 7/10/09, patrick wachira <thiggss@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant agree more with the rest of you Skunkee's, but am sure staff at Nation must have objected in having that horid NTV logo..but some boss somewhere who lacks ideas and creativity overruled everyone...i stand to be corrected.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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@Ndungi (blame it on twitter) that logo is...well...ummm....colourful... Seriously?? That's the logo they are using for the 2012 Olympics??? What?? Why?? When?? How?? Whereupon?? Forthwith?? Wherefore?? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I think this Wolf guy may have done the NTV logo.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
ken,
For all the accolades you heaped on the designer of the London 2012 Olympics official logo (we can now establish it is Wolff Olins) I couldnt help but google him to see for myself. Ladies and gentlemen, you had only seen a tip of the iceberg in the NTV logo.. the rest of the iceberg is here <http://www.wolffolins.com/#> !
I am awe-struck :)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:10 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I have nothing to say on that logo, let the artistic speak. But let me introduce you to the worst logo ever designed - the London 2012 olympics official logo. It was reported that the colours caused fits among children. Cant remember the exact link but the dude was paid £400,000 for the job. Interestingly he is the same guy who did the Safaricom logo. All i remember is that his site looked like a Kenya Times newspaper!
On 7/10/09, patrick wachira <thiggss@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant agree more with the rest of you Skunkee's, but am sure staff at Nation must have objected in having that horid NTV logo..but some boss somewhere who lacks ideas and creativity overruled everyone...i stand to be corrected.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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@Shiro (yeah blaming twitter :) I was unable to understand how the London logo made it through the eyes of an obviously shocked London 2012 Olympic Committee. And Wolff Olins' site is equally hideous. The only explanation could, perhaps, be that somebody knew somebody who knew somebody .. you know, the Kenyan way, in which case the apple hasnt fallen very far from its colonial master. On NTV's array of colours, well I guess once in a while they had to break away from the usual bland and boring logo theme for a more playful one. And I think a really good artist(e) should be able to push as close to the limits as possible and still captivate. Ama? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Shiro Njagi <sheeroh@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ndungi (blame it on twitter) that logo is...well...ummm....colourful... Seriously?? That's the logo they are using for the 2012 Olympics??? What?? Why?? When?? How?? Whereupon?? Forthwith?? Wherefore??
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
I think this Wolf guy may have done the NTV logo.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
ken,
For all the accolades you heaped on the designer of the London 2012 Olympics official logo (we can now establish it is Wolff Olins) I couldnt help but google him to see for myself. Ladies and gentlemen, you had only seen a tip of the iceberg in the NTV logo.. the rest of the iceberg is here <http://www.wolffolins.com/#> !
I am awe-struck :)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:10 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
I have nothing to say on that logo, let the artistic speak. But let me introduce you to the worst logo ever designed - the London 2012 olympics official logo. It was reported that the colours caused fits among children. Cant remember the exact link but the dude was paid £400,000 for the job. Interestingly he is the same guy who did the Safaricom logo. All i remember is that his site looked like a Kenya Times newspaper!
On 7/10/09, patrick wachira <thiggss@gmail.com> wrote:
I cant agree more with the rest of you Skunkee's, but am sure staff at Nation must have objected in having that horid NTV logo..but some boss somewhere who lacks ideas and creativity overruled everyone...i stand to be corrected.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)... Regards On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
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Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
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I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . . On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)...
Regards
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
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I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it... On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . .
On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)...
Regards
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward. last thoughts, embrace change On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . .
On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)...
Regards
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ... 2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . .
On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)...
Regards
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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I like the new logo.... i think it is great! On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ...
2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all the
other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . .
On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)...
Regards
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. What are your views?
Mambo.
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Just noticed the color of the screen logo is not the same as the one in front of their news desk!! What a shame!! On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, nancy bosire <bozaya@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the new logo.... i think it is great!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ...
2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all
the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . .
On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)...
Regards
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys, > > Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. > What are your views? > > > Mambo. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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Well, it’s like they have removed a Mercedes Benz badge and replaced it with a Datsun one. Now KTN looks more like those Indian or day time channels that nobody bothers with on dstv... (weak, comical and less seriuos) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just noticed the color of the screen logo is not the same as the one in front of their news desk!! What a shame!!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, nancy bosire <bozaya@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the new logo.... i think it is great!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ...
2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all
the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>wrote:
I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have been patriotic african n very appealing . . .
On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each time NTV > rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further more I've > never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never convinced > us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)... > > Regards > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Guys, >> >> Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot better. >> What are your views? >> >> >> Mambo. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> >
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Next time they want to make a rebrand of their logos for radio, tv and gazeti, thy should ast for Skunks opinions before going on air. Unless of course, a skunk was commission to give a paid opinion, and thought it wise not to share the kill! Anyways, the logo is too colourful for my eyes! On 10/07/2009, Tony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it’s like they have removed a Mercedes Benz badge and replaced it with a Datsun one.
Now KTN looks more like those Indian or day time channels that nobody bothers with on dstv... (weak, comical and less seriuos)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just noticed the color of the screen logo is not the same as the one in front of their news desk!! What a shame!!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, nancy bosire <bozaya@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the new logo.... i think it is great!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ...
2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all
the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should have stuck to it...
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>wrote:
> I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile > urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and > stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & > informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have > been patriotic african n very appealing . . . > > On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote: > > Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each > time NTV > > rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further > > more > I've > > never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never > convinced > > us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)... > > > > Regards > > > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Guys, > >> > >> Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot > better. > >> What are your views? > >> > >> > >> Mambo. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> Other lists > >> ------------- > >> Skunkworks announce: > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Mark Mwangi > > http://mwangy.wordpress.com > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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The KTN guys are now happy that there is something worse than their robot. why does NTV keep rebranding while most people experience difficulties trying to get their signal . somebody please tell them the problem is the signal not the logo. Maybe they have been trying to trouble shoot all along. On 11/07/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Next time they want to make a rebrand of their logos for radio, tv and gazeti, thy should ast for Skunks opinions before going on air. Unless of course, a skunk was commission to give a paid opinion, and thought it wise not to share the kill! Anyways, the logo is too colourful for my eyes!
On 10/07/2009, Tony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it’s like they have removed a Mercedes Benz badge and replaced it with a Datsun one.
Now KTN looks more like those Indian or day time channels that nobody bothers with on dstv... (weak, comical and less seriuos)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just noticed the color of the screen logo is not the same as the one in front of their news desk!! What a shame!!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, nancy bosire <bozaya@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the new logo.... i think it is great!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ...
2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all
the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
> I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should > have stuck to it... > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi > <mwangy@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile >> urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and >> stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & >> informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have >> been patriotic african n very appealing . . . >> >> On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each >> time NTV >> > rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further >> > more >> I've >> > never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never >> convinced >> > us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)... >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Guys, >> >> >> >> Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot >> better. >> >> What are your views? >> >> >> >> >> >> Mambo. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> Other lists >> >> ------------- >> >> Skunkworks announce: >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Mark Mwangi >> >> http://mwangy.wordpress.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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NMG always have this habit of not believing in their product entirely. something is wrongif they cannot change it mara kwa mara for them it is if people are comfortable with it then something is wrong. remember the debacle of the launch of easy fm. chucking out such great programs like the swahili ones on sato and Sunday only to bring them back some years later. Me think its digital paranoia (we buy newspapers and watch telly out of habit woe to them if we realize theirs more n better on line and its for free) the creative dept want to be seen as relevant ama watauliza muna duu! On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Solomon Mburu<solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Next time they want to make a rebrand of their logos for radio, tv and gazeti, thy should ast for Skunks opinions before going on air. Unless of course, a skunk was commission to give a paid opinion, and thought it wise not to share the kill! Anyways, the logo is too colourful for my eyes!
On 10/07/2009, Tony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it’s like they have removed a Mercedes Benz badge and replaced it with a Datsun one.
Now KTN looks more like those Indian or day time channels that nobody bothers with on dstv... (weak, comical and less seriuos)
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just noticed the color of the screen logo is not the same as the one in front of their news desk!! What a shame!!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, nancy bosire <bozaya@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the new logo.... i think it is great!
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now working on a fix that replaces the new logo, sorry, ribbon with the old ones. You will just need to apply the patch we will provide to your T.v. ...
2009/7/10 Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>
i like the new look..the typeface is simple and easy to spot amidst all
the other stuff that appears on the screen.It does grab attention, which is what a corporate image/brand should do. perhaps they overdid it with the rainbow colored ribbon but , still, it does give it character. I found the old logo to be a mixed up jumble of letters that was not straightforward.
last thoughts, embrace change
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com>wrote:
> I totaly agree, the original logo/brand was the ultimate. They should > have stuck to it... > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I think they are trying too hard to appeal to the upwardly mobile >> urbanites and thats why they struggle to look international and >> stockfull of consumerism (akina 90210) instead of entertaining & >> informing us . . . . I still find the original logo n theme to have >> been patriotic african n very appealing . . . >> >> On 7/10/09, Japheth Kioko <japhking@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Personally I believe they can do a lot more better than that. Each >> time NTV >> > rebrands itself, it goes way under our expectations and further >> > more >> I've >> > never seen a reason for them to rebrand or better they have never >> convinced >> > us why they need to rebrand (and so oftenly for that matter)... >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Guys, >> >> >> >> Am quite disturbed by NTV's new logo, I mean; they can do a lot >> better. >> >> What are your views? >> >> >> >> >> >> Mambo. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> Other lists >> >> ------------- >> >> Skunkworks announce: >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Mark Mwangi >> >> http://mwangy.wordpress.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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"Your consistent thoughts create your consistent results."
"Whatever your mind expects and demands, it will find a way to produce it." - Napoleon Hill
Mahatma Gandhi once said:-
First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!
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-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

Frankly I don't like the logo but there isnt much that can be done we wait for another few years when they re brand again tutazoea tu.........
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Al Kags
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Areba Collins
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Davis Waithaka
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Dennis Kioko
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Jamal Mohamed
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Japheth Kioko
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Kahugu Isaac
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Kiti Chigiri
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mambo mutua
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Mark Mwangi
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matere lusitche
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nancy bosire
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Ndungi Kyalo
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nerdalf james
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patrick wachira
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Philip Musyoki
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Shiro Njagi
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Solomon Mburu
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Tony Mwai
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