I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to install it saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of FYI. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:

Welcome to Nairobi.

Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering wheel + Brake/Clutch.

R, T21 On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi, Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for only a few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the immobilizer, start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the dashboard and steering column components had been damaged.

I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes 5 mins to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the dashboard and steering column, I have to buy another system and have it installed..

What is the best car alarm system available in the market (Kenya) today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the car using technology ? Kindly share your views and comments

Best Regards

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Always lock your steering by playing it from right to left until it locks. Do this after you have removed the key from the ignition On Jan 29, 2014 11:15 AM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

So what did you end up doing with the alarm?

Meanwhile, if they only deal with "alarms they know", means they know how to disable this stuff, right?

On 28 January 2014 17:46, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to install it saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of FYI.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Welcome to Nairobi.

Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering wheel + Brake/Clutch.

R, T21 On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi, Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for only a few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the immobilizer, start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the dashboard and steering column components had been damaged.

I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes 5 mins to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the dashboard and steering column, I have to buy another system and have it installed..

What is the best car alarm system available in the market (Kenya) today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the car using technology ? Kindly share your views and comments

Best Regards

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@Kioko, I think I gave the alarm to a friend, no idea what he did with it. However, subject to correction, I think that after the first year, you can install whatever alarm (or not) you want, since when doing the annual valuation, all they (valuer) note down is "alarm system installed", they (insurer) do not require an alarm installation certificate. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:

Nicholas,

and a car thief with a key cannot unlock the steering the same way you would ?

-- Ndungi Kyalo

On 4 February 2014 10:51, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Always lock your steering by playing it from right to left until it locks. Do this after you have removed the key from the ignition On Jan 29, 2014 11:15 AM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

So what did you end up doing with the alarm?

Meanwhile, if they only deal with "alarms they know", means they know how to disable this stuff, right?

On 28 January 2014 17:46, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to install it saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of FYI.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Welcome to Nairobi.

Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering wheel + Brake/Clutch.

R, T21 On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi, Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for only a few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the immobilizer, start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the dashboard and steering column components had been damaged.

I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes 5 mins to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the dashboard and steering column, I have to buy another system and have it installed..

What is the best car alarm system available in the market (Kenya) today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the car using technology ? Kindly share your views and comments

Best Regards

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Solomon should stage a demo and he will make a lot of money sounds very brilliant Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:

Hi, At Ifuate GPS tracking, we add extra layer of security by connecting our GPS tracking device with the alarm. If the alarm goes off, we will notify you immediately via email or through SMS or even cut out the starter or do all the above, as long as your GPS tracking device is connected to our servers. Even if they cut out all wiring off the vehicle, in which case I doubt how they will be able to drive off a few seconds are enough for the tracker to have hit our servers and the necessary warnings raised.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@Kioko, I think I gave the alarm to a friend, no idea what he did with it.

However, subject to correction, I think that after the first year, you can install whatever alarm (or not) you want, since when doing the annual valuation, all they (valuer) note down is "alarm system installed", they (insurer) do not require an alarm installation certificate.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Nicholas,

and a car thief with a key cannot unlock the steering the same way you would ?

-- Ndungi Kyalo

On 4 February 2014 10:51, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Always lock your steering by playing it from right to left until it locks. Do this after you have removed the key from the ignition On Jan 29, 2014 11:15 AM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

So what did you end up doing with the alarm?

Meanwhile, if they only deal with "alarms they know", means they know how to disable this stuff, right?

On 28 January 2014 17:46, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to install it saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of FYI.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com>wrote:

> Welcome to Nairobi. > > Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering wheel + > Brake/Clutch. > > R, > T21 > On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for only a >> few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the immobilizer, >> start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. >> Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the >> "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the >> dashboard and steering column components had been damaged. >> >> I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes 5 mins >> to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the dashboard and >> steering column, I have to buy another system and have it installed.. >> >> What is the best car alarm system available in the market (Kenya) >> today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the car using >> technology ? Kindly share your views and comments >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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@solo, great idea. would love to see it working On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com> wrote:

@kyalo Most thieves jumpstart the car by bypassing the key start and using the wires but mechanically the steering remains locked. So unless the thief has your car keys .... On Feb 4, 2014 3:22 PM, "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Solomon should stage a demo and he will make a lot of money sounds very brilliant

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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Hi, At Ifuate GPS tracking, we add extra layer of security by connecting our GPS tracking device with the alarm. If the alarm goes off, we will notify you immediately via email or through SMS or even cut out the starter or do all the above, as long as your GPS tracking device is connected to our servers. Even if they cut out all wiring off the vehicle, in which case I doubt how they will be able to drive off a few seconds are enough for the tracker to have hit our servers and the necessary warnings raised.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote:

...

@Kioko, I think I gave the alarm to a friend, no idea what he did with it.

However, subject to correction, I think that after the first year, you can install whatever alarm (or not) you want, since when doing the annual valuation, all they (valuer) note down is "alarm system installed", they (insurer) do not require an alarm installation certificate.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Nicholas,

and a car thief with a key cannot unlock the steering the same way you would ?

-- Ndungi Kyalo

On 4 February 2014 10:51, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Always lock your steering by playing it from right to left until it locks. Do this after you have removed the key from the ignition On Jan 29, 2014 11:15 AM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

> So what did you end up doing with the alarm? > > Meanwhile, if they only deal with "alarms they know", means they > know how to disable this stuff, right? > > > On 28 January 2014 17:46, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to install it >> saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of FYI. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Welcome to Nairobi. >>> >>> Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering wheel >>> + Brake/Clutch. >>> >>> R, >>> T21 >>> On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for only a >>>> few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the immobilizer, >>>> start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. >>>> Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the >>>> "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the >>>> dashboard and steering column components had been damaged. >>>> >>>> I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes 5 >>>> mins to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the dashboard >>>> and steering column, I have to buy another system and have it installed.. >>>> >>>> What is the best car alarm system available in the market (Kenya) >>>> today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the car using >>>> technology ? Kindly share your views and comments >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Peter Karunyu >> ------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > with Regards: > > blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Advice from my insurance broker: get the cheapest alarm for the sake of valuation. Get a good insurance company (and broker) for the sake of incidences. On 4 February 2014 16:28, Joyce Kamara <kamarax@gmail.com> wrote:

Solo,

Demo + charges will be appreciated.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:12 PM, steven maina <ndungustephenm@gmail.com>wrote:

...

@solo, great idea. would love to see it working

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com>wrote:

...

@kyalo Most thieves jumpstart the car by bypassing the key start and using the wires but mechanically the steering remains locked. So unless the thief has your car keys .... On Feb 4, 2014 3:22 PM, "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Solomon should stage a demo and he will make a lot of money sounds very brilliant

Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Hi, At Ifuate GPS tracking, we add extra layer of security by connecting our GPS tracking device with the alarm. If the alarm goes off, we will notify you immediately via email or through SMS or even cut out the starter or do all the above, as long as your GPS tracking device is connected to our servers. Even if they cut out all wiring off the vehicle, in which case I doubt how they will be able to drive off a few seconds are enough for the tracker to have hit our servers and the necessary warnings raised.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote:

...

@Kioko, I think I gave the alarm to a friend, no idea what he did with it.

However, subject to correction, I think that after the first year, you can install whatever alarm (or not) you want, since when doing the annual valuation, all they (valuer) note down is "alarm system installed", they (insurer) do not require an alarm installation certificate.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com>wrote:

> Nicholas, > > and a car thief with a key cannot unlock the steering the same way > you would ? > > -- > Ndungi Kyalo > > On 4 February 2014 10:51, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Always lock your steering by playing it from right to left until it >> locks. Do this after you have removed the key from the ignition >> On Jan 29, 2014 11:15 AM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So what did you end up doing with the alarm? >>> >>> Meanwhile, if they only deal with "alarms they know", means they >>> know how to disable this stuff, right? >>> >>> >>> On 28 January 2014 17:46, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to install >>>> it saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of FYI. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Welcome to Nairobi. >>>>> >>>>> Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering >>>>> wheel + Brake/Clutch. >>>>> >>>>> R, >>>>> T21 >>>>> On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for only >>>>>> a few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the immobilizer, >>>>>> start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. >>>>>> Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the >>>>>> "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the >>>>>> dashboard and steering column components had been damaged. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes 5 >>>>>> mins to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the dashboard >>>>>> and steering column, I have to buy another system and have it installed.. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the best car alarm system available in the market >>>>>> (Kenya) today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the >>>>>> car using technology ? Kindly share your views and comments >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Peter Karunyu >>>> ------------------- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> with Regards: >>> >>> blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Guys of valuation only want to see whether or not it has an alarm; doesn't matter if it's cheap or expensive. A determined thief will get your car, no point fighting over it (assuming there is low sentimental value). I guess that's why one gets comprehensive insurance as opposed to the much cheaper third party only. On 4 February 2014 17:09, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

@Kuria, a cheap alarm pushes the valuation up or down?

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Advice from my insurance broker: get the cheapest alarm for the sake of valuation. Get a good insurance company (and broker) for the sake of incidences.

On 4 February 2014 16:28, Joyce Kamara <kamarax@gmail.com> wrote:

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Solo,

Demo + charges will be appreciated.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:12 PM, steven maina <ndungustephenm@gmail.com>wrote:

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@solo, great idea. would love to see it working

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@kyalo Most thieves jumpstart the car by bypassing the key start and using the wires but mechanically the steering remains locked. So unless the thief has your car keys .... On Feb 4, 2014 3:22 PM, "Mickey Mickey" <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:

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Solomon should stage a demo and he will make a lot of money sounds very brilliant

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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, solomon kariri < solomonkariri@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, > At Ifuate GPS tracking, we add extra layer of security by connecting > our GPS tracking device with the alarm. If the alarm goes off, we will > notify you immediately via email or through SMS or even cut out the starter > or do all the above, as long as your GPS tracking device is connected to > our servers. > Even if they cut out all wiring off the vehicle, in which case I > doubt how they will be able to drive off a few seconds are enough for the > tracker to have hit our servers and the necessary warnings raised. > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote: > >> @Kioko, I think I gave the alarm to a friend, no idea what he did >> with it. >> >> However, subject to correction, I think that after the first year, >> you can install whatever alarm (or not) you want, since when doing the >> annual valuation, all they (valuer) note down is "alarm system installed", >> they (insurer) do not require an alarm installation certificate. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Nicholas, >>> >>> and a car thief with a key cannot unlock the steering the same way >>> you would ? >>> >>> -- >>> Ndungi Kyalo >>> >>> On 4 February 2014 10:51, Nicholas Mutinda <mutindah@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Always lock your steering by playing it from right to left until >>>> it locks. Do this after you have removed the key from the ignition >>>> On Jan 29, 2014 11:15 AM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So what did you end up doing with the alarm? >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, if they only deal with "alarms they know", means they >>>>> know how to disable this stuff, right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 28 January 2014 17:46, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I once imported an alarm from UK, local dudes refused to >>>>>> install it saying that they only install products they know. Just a bit of >>>>>> FYI. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tusker 21 < >>>>>> tusker212@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome to Nairobi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Multilock one on the gear + Steering wheel lock. In steering >>>>>>> wheel + Brake/Clutch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> R, >>>>>>> T21 >>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2014 11:45 AM, "Thomas Kibui" < >>>>>>> thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Last week my car was vandalized and the alarm went off for >>>>>>>> only a few seconds before they managed to silence it, disable the >>>>>>>> immobilizer, start the car and drive it away .. all in in under 5 mins. >>>>>>>> Anyway, it was recovered abandoned later by the cops but the >>>>>>>> "security" components (alarm itself + immobilizer) and a big chunk of the >>>>>>>> dashboard and steering column components had been damaged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had installed Auto Watch (make) but if it takes only takes >>>>>>>> 5 mins to crack it open then its not worth it.. After they fix the >>>>>>>> dashboard and steering column, I have to buy another system and have it >>>>>>>> installed.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is the best car alarm system available in the market >>>>>>>> (Kenya) today or better what is the best security strategy to secure the >>>>>>>> car using technology ? Kindly share your views and comments >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Peter Karunyu >>>>>> ------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> with Regards: >>>>> >>>>> blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Peter Karunyu >> ------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Solomon Kariri, > > Software Developer, > Cell: +254736 729 450 > Skype: solomonkariri > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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@Joyce, You can view our prices here http://bit.ly/1ahfzX3 . For a demo you can visit our office. The location of our office is under the contact section on our website. A better demo will be one where we install it on your vehicle and show you how it works :) On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

Cheap alarms are a nuisance to society,the wind blows and all hell breaks loose.

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When I take my car for valuation, the insurance guys and valuation firm ask me to state, by filling a form, what is my car alarm. The, nevertheless bother to check whether that's what I have installed in real sense. My car has a key alarm, which came with the vehicle from the manufacturer's and the locally assembled one. On 06/02/2014, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:

Dennis, that's the alarm's sensitivity settings, and that can be adjusted.

I have reservations regarding insurance companies' insistence that an alarm be installed, yet they do not check the quality of the systems.

My car came with a full anti-theft system from the manufacturer, but my insurance required me to install another locally even after I demonstrated its features.

Afterwards I had the local alarm disconnected from the car's systems but I couldn't get the original one working like before. The features I lost: I could use the original one to roll up/down windows, open/close sunroof remotely before. And it would close all open windows/sunroof 5 seconds after being armed. Also, before, if one tried to open a door with the system armed, it would give an audible beep (like from a watch) on the first two attempts, then sound the alarm for subsequent attempts - this comes in handy when one's absent-minded. This feature now works only for the driver's door.

The local dealer would charge and arm and leg just to try and get it working as before, with no guarantees.

To date I wish I'd just gone to River Road and printed a certificate of installation.

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