Amazon Web Services Users
Hello, Some of you may know that I'm contemplating the deployment of a cloud services product physically located in Nairobi but using OpenStack so that devops people can use standard APIs. Physically locating the machines in Kenya should improve latency and perceived uptime (due to cable cuts not affecting connectivity) and make life easier for developers, administrators and users ... but I wanted to validate that with people on this list. Is anybody already using Amazon Web Services or an OpenStack implementation? Is anybody using a VPS or similar solution and paying more than $40USD/month? Would anybody be interested in a product like this with similar pricing to Amazon's (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/)? If there were free trials, would people spend the time to learn more about how to leverage OpenStack APIs? Cheers, Adam
Hello Adam, There is a site I developed and deployed on the Amazon EC ^2 cluster some time back nairobi.sciencehackday.com. It is a django app. I was and still is mostly concerned with its administration. You can talk to Morris Mwanga (cc'd) for more information on billing, pricing and other interests. Martin. On Apr 23, 2013 6:08 PM, "Adam Nelson" <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Hello,
Some of you may know that I'm contemplating the deployment of a cloud services product physically located in Nairobi but using OpenStack so that devops people can use standard APIs. Physically locating the machines in Kenya should improve latency and perceived uptime (due to cable cuts not affecting connectivity) and make life easier for developers, administrators and users ... but I wanted to validate that with people on this list.
Is anybody already using Amazon Web Services or an OpenStack implementation? Is anybody using a VPS or similar solution and paying more than $40USD/month? Would anybody be interested in a product like this with similar pricing to Amazon's (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/)? If there were free trials, would people spend the time to learn more about how to leverage OpenStack APIs?
Cheers, Adam
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we deployed the Election Observation Group's CMS on AWS too. it was mainly to preempt DDOS attacks over the election period. im sure we would have opted for a local open stack implementation as the SEACOM outage affected us On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Adam,
There is a site I developed and deployed on the Amazon EC ^2 cluster some time back nairobi.sciencehackday.com. It is a django app. I was and still is mostly concerned with its administration. You can talk to Morris Mwanga (cc'd) for more information on billing, pricing and other interests.
Martin. On Apr 23, 2013 6:08 PM, "Adam Nelson" <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Hello,
Some of you may know that I'm contemplating the deployment of a cloud services product physically located in Nairobi but using OpenStack so that devops people can use standard APIs. Physically locating the machines in Kenya should improve latency and perceived uptime (due to cable cuts not affecting connectivity) and make life easier for developers, administrators and users ... but I wanted to validate that with people on this list.
Is anybody already using Amazon Web Services or an OpenStack implementation? Is anybody using a VPS or similar solution and paying more than $40USD/month? Would anybody be interested in a product like this with similar pricing to Amazon's (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/)? If there were free trials, would people spend the time to learn more about how to leverage OpenStack APIs?
Cheers, Adam
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Adam, Having locally available Openstack is a novel idea, I remember whilst I was working with a local developer and our host was Amazon, the moment the Amazon went down we had a nusty experience, as you can imagine trying to call or send emails for tech support, but if the option of having one locally was available, we could have just camped at their offices the whole day until they rectify the problem. It is a nobel idea and personally I think more developers should host their stuff locally for latency. my 2 cents.. Antony.... On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, steven maina <ndungustephenm@gmail.com>wrote:
we deployed the Election Observation Group's CMS on AWS too. it was mainly to preempt DDOS attacks over the election period. im sure we would have opted for a local open stack implementation as the SEACOM outage affected us
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Adam,
There is a site I developed and deployed on the Amazon EC ^2 cluster some time back nairobi.sciencehackday.com. It is a django app. I was and still is mostly concerned with its administration. You can talk to Morris Mwanga (cc'd) for more information on billing, pricing and other interests.
Martin. On Apr 23, 2013 6:08 PM, "Adam Nelson" <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Hello,
Some of you may know that I'm contemplating the deployment of a cloud services product physically located in Nairobi but using OpenStack so that devops people can use standard APIs. Physically locating the machines in Kenya should improve latency and perceived uptime (due to cable cuts not affecting connectivity) and make life easier for developers, administrators and users ... but I wanted to validate that with people on this list.
Is anybody already using Amazon Web Services or an OpenStack implementation? Is anybody using a VPS or similar solution and paying more than $40USD/month? Would anybody be interested in a product like this with similar pricing to Amazon's (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/)? If there were free trials, would people spend the time to learn more about how to leverage OpenStack APIs?
Cheers, Adam
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Hi again On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Adam,
There is a site I developed and deployed on the Amazon EC ^2 cluster some time back nairobi.sciencehackday.com. It is a django app. I was and still is mostly concerned with its administration. You can talk to Morris Mwanga (cc'd) for more information on billing, pricing and other interests.
Martin.
I should probably add the main reasons that made us tilt towards the of use Amazon Web services at the time: 1) We did the site as a django project since we thought it would be simpler to extend it in future if we found that to be necessary. We were considering the fact that we could want to show a list of people who had booked tickets to attend the event or simply give them a registration page. Having tried to do custom drupal / wordpress / Joomla module development (especially drupal), we thought the process would have been more painful / confusing or longer as compared to writing django apps, which is almost trivial and can be done quite fast. 2) Traditional web hosts do not normally have Python provided in their LAMPP stack, I think it normally is Linux Apache MySQL, PHP / PERL, I could be wrong. At some point we were even considering having PostgreSQL as our database server even though we ended up just using an embedded PySQLite server as our store. On Amazon and similar hosting services we could and did install whatever we wanted including Ngingx as the reverse proxy server pushing static content to our clients, Memcache maybe if our traffic went crazy, etc. We also have additional Python packages such as Markdown for formatting text content and an event brite API client. 3) Amazon was somehow "free", we already had subscribed to the service and we just needed to create a micro instance of a server and fire it up with our particular configuration. Lastly with regards to pricing, I have used the services of Webfaction<http://www.webfaction.com/>on another site. The plan I am using costs $9.50 per month, around $102.00 per year and I think it is pretty adequate. I am not so sure if the kind of service you intend to deploy offers more benefits than the ones I am using right now. This could be due to ignorance on my part. Martin.
On Apr 23, 2013 6:08 PM, "Adam Nelson" <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Hello,
Some of you may know that I'm contemplating the deployment of a cloud services product physically located in Nairobi but using OpenStack so that devops people can use standard APIs. Physically locating the machines in Kenya should improve latency and perceived uptime (due to cable cuts not affecting connectivity) and make life easier for developers, administrators and users ... but I wanted to validate that with people on this list.
Is anybody already using Amazon Web Services or an OpenStack implementation? Is anybody using a VPS or similar solution and paying more than $40USD/month? Would anybody be interested in a product like this with similar pricing to Amazon's (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/)? If there were free trials, would people spend the time to learn more about how to leverage OpenStack APIs?
Cheers, Adam
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On 23 April 2013 17:59, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Hello,
Some of you may know that I'm contemplating the deployment of a cloud services product physically located in Nairobi but using OpenStack so that devops people can use standard APIs. Physically locating the machines in Kenya should improve latency and perceived uptime (due to cable cuts not affecting connectivity) and make life easier for developers, administrators and users ... but I wanted to validate that with people on this list.
Is anybody already using Amazon Web Services or an OpenStack implementation? Is anybody using a VPS or similar solution and paying more than $40USD/month?
Our project does all its hosting on a vps cloud, and we spend more than the amount stated. Yeah having local hosting at a competitive price to Amazon, RackSpace etc. would be great in my opinion. Currently local hosting is not only unreliable (in terms of weak SLAs, unclear redundancy structures in data centers ... ) but also expensive. The other problem with Amazon (which favors local hosting in Kenya) is the license agreement (this is also the case with Google ... ) which gives the US government significant power to restrict (or stop ) services running on their hosting (based on the foreign assets control sanction list ) -- European providers dont have such restrictions. This is particularly important given the political situation ...and also the political situation of neighbouring countries - for instance if you want to host services accessed from Sudan or Somalia (Sudan falls under the sanction list ... ) ... Ashok
Would anybody be interested in a product like this with similar pricing to Amazon's (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/)? If there were free trials, would people spend the time to learn more about how to leverage OpenStack APIs?
Cheers, Adam
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