Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke And the page is under construction (complete with a guy holding a jembe) Nway, looks like something to look 4ward to. Anyone with additional info? Halafu, a few days ago, PS. Ndemo said there is not a *single* digital tv in .ke right now. How true is this?
so why advertise a site thats still under construction?. . . nway seems like its a subsidiary of the uk company. . .. this shud be intresting. . . On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke
And the page is under construction (complete with a guy holding a jembe)
Nway, looks like something to look 4ward to. Anyone with additional info?
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On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke
Mr Lawi, fyi. Iptv is one method of delivery used to push content, including in hotels and over last mile into set top boxes. There are some sites out there that offer upto 2500 channels from locations. Myself and a few friends had considered this a few years ago, with a gateway to be setup in amsterdam. Because Kenya has no sat coverage of European Satellites we had in theory planned to uplink into stations at the gateway, pick the feeds and mux them over paid http. There was also a design agreement to have a fiber channel from US content to merge with the gateway in amsterdam. This was the only way to bring the content. But channel rights are expensive with long term commitments and ofcourse the net "had" the bottleneck and the Mbyte consumption was wild....and the project financier decided that his money was better spent on property investments.....too funny :-) Good to see someone starting it off. Me thots. www.projectskenya.info
Good to know @Aki. One of these fine days I will make a conscious desision to meet u in person. Simply put, I want to document you. Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV? On 10/3/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke
Mr Lawi, fyi. Iptv is one method of delivery used to push content, including in hotels and over last mile into set top boxes. There are some sites out there that offer upto 2500 channels from locations. Myself and a few friends had considered this a few years ago, with a gateway to be setup in amsterdam. Because Kenya has no sat coverage of European Satellites we had in theory planned to uplink into stations at the gateway, pick the feeds and mux them over paid http. There was also a design agreement to have a fiber channel from US content to merge with the gateway in amsterdam. This was the only way to bring the content. But channel rights are expensive with long term commitments and ofcourse the net "had" the bottleneck and the Mbyte consumption was wild....and the project financier decided that his money was better spent on property investments.....too funny :-) Good to see someone starting it off.
Me thots. www.projectskenya.info
most digital ready sets in kenya are MPEG2 while Kenya uses MPEG4 for digital tv On 03/10/2009, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Good to know @Aki. One of these fine days I will make a conscious desision to meet u in person. Simply put, I want to document you.
Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV?
On 10/3/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke
Mr Lawi, fyi. Iptv is one method of delivery used to push content, including in hotels and over last mile into set top boxes. There are some sites out there that offer upto 2500 channels from locations. Myself and a few friends had considered this a few years ago, with a gateway to be setup in amsterdam. Because Kenya has no sat coverage of European Satellites we had in theory planned to uplink into stations at the gateway, pick the feeds and mux them over paid http. There was also a design agreement to have a fiber channel from US content to merge with the gateway in amsterdam. This was the only way to bring the content. But channel rights are expensive with long term commitments and ofcourse the net "had" the bottleneck and the Mbyte consumption was wild....and the project financier decided that his money was better spent on property investments.....too funny :-) Good to see someone starting it off.
Me thots. www.projectskenya.info
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On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV?
@Lawi, I've not looked into this digital tv issue. Was there some talk about getting set top boxes? @Dennis, do you know what Mpeg4 standard to be used like bit rate for encoding for video and audio? Rgds
no, i dont. you will have to talk to dr. bitange ndemo or some other institutional person On 03/10/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV?
@Lawi, I've not looked into this digital tv issue. Was there some talk about getting set top boxes?
@Dennis, do you know what Mpeg4 standard to be used like bit rate for encoding for video and audio?
Rgds
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@Aki There was talk of getting analog-to-digital converters. I don't knw if thats the set top box you are talking about. @Denis Thanx for the clarification. I'll start checking out Tv sets to see what mpeg std they support. On 10/3/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV?
@Lawi, I've not looked into this digital tv issue. Was there some talk about getting set top boxes?
@Dennis, do you know what Mpeg4 standard to be used like bit rate for encoding for video and audio?
Rgds
I'm was planning to upgrade my TV set and get a plasma now with CCK saying that there are no digital ready TV's in the market i just have to hold my horses and not buy anything just yet.....those SONY guys tell mi that all their flat screens are digital but how true is that On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Aki There was talk of getting analog-to-digital converters. I don't knw if thats the set top box you are talking about. @Denis Thanx for the clarification. I'll start checking out Tv sets to see what mpeg std they support.
On 10/3/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV?
@Lawi, I've not looked into this digital tv issue. Was there some talk about getting set top boxes?
@Dennis, do you know what Mpeg4 standard to be used like bit rate for encoding for video and audio?
Rgds
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wait till KBC begins trials by 31st of this month, then go tell them to demo them for you. 2009/10/4 saich <saiched@gmail.com>
I'm was planning to upgrade my TV set and get a plasma now with CCK saying that there are no digital ready TV's in the market i just have to hold my horses and not buy anything just yet.....those SONY guys tell mi that all their flat screens are digital but how true is that
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Aki There was talk of getting analog-to-digital converters. I don't knw if thats the set top box you are talking about. @Denis Thanx for the clarification. I'll start checking out Tv sets to see what mpeg std they support.
On 10/3/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Secondly, is it true that no tv in Kenya is digital ready? Not even the .5m tv in Sony Showroom? Ama what is a digital TV?
@Lawi, I've not looked into this digital tv issue. Was there some talk about getting set top boxes?
@Dennis, do you know what Mpeg4 standard to be used like bit rate for encoding for video and audio?
Rgds
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2009/10/3 Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com>
Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke
And the page is under construction (complete with a guy holding a jembe)
Nway, looks like something to look 4ward to. Anyone with additional info?
Halafu, a few days ago, PS. Ndemo said there is not a *single* digital tv in .ke right now. How true is this? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Mr Lawi, I see now that www.freeview.co.ke has content. -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
Ati there's not a single digital tv in kenya. What do you think Zuku cable TV or DSTV is? The transmission modulation will always be analog (so that it can travel long distances) but the signal before transmission is digital. Thats why you need the decoders to demodulate the signal and convert it back to a format that can be viewed by the TV set. The Decoder acts like a set top box. if you've never noticed digital broadcasting has many features compared to analog. Things like Teletext,smartcard billing, voting on the telly etc. These are some of the features inherent in DSTV. So When you buy a Digital Television set you won't need those decoders, you'll never even use the RF port at the back of the telly if it has one. Digital TV has been here for some years now.
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Ati there's not a single digital tv in kenya. What do you think Zuku cable TV or DSTV is? The transmission modulation will always be analog (so that it can travel long distances) but the signal before transmission is digital. Thats why you need the decoders to demodulate the signal and convert it back to a format that can be viewed by the TV set. The Decoder acts like a set top box. if you've never noticed digital broadcasting has many features compared to analog. Things like Teletext,smartcard billing, voting on the telly etc. These are some of the features inherent in DSTV. So When you buy a Digital Television set you won't need those decoders, you'll never even use the RF port at the back of the telly if it has one. Digital TV has been here for some years now.
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Small clarification needed Omondi, About the RF port....from what I've read, there is still need for antennae even with digital receiver TVs and STBs. Please correct me if I am wrong. -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
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yeah Brian you are right, one still needs an aerial
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No I mean digital TV broadcasting not Digital television sets. About IPV6 I don't know.
The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n dstv mobile have fryin in the pan . . . On 10/21/09, Omondi douglas <ombokdouglas@gmail.com> wrote:
No I mean digital TV broadcasting not Digital television sets. About IPV6 I don't know.
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The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n dstv mobile have fryin in the pan . . .
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No I mean digital TV broadcasting not Digital television sets. About IPV6 I don't know.
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Mark ,Some info for you. DVB-H is for handheld application & the suffericon & dstv example is just that. The form expected to be used in Kenya is DVB-T (Terrestrial) with MPEG4 as the standard. This is mainly European standard that we follow here in Kenya example PAL rather than NTSC. Regards, -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n
Not DVB-H, DVB-T (Not Handheld but Terrestrial). BR, S
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n
Not DVB-H, DVB-T (Not Handheld but Terrestrial).
BR, S
This thing is going to be interesting. I wonder how DTV is going to deal with the shadows problems in CBD area and around tall buildings. On analogue systems, this created a phase lag ( if I remember the correct term ) with a reflected wave, causing "shadows" on signal received. Digital will just cancel each other out as noise and DTV tuner unable to re-construct stream, leading to no signal or blank screen. Will line of sight become too important. What about trees? SNR levels become critical... What do you guys think? :-) Me thots.
2009/10/23 aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n
Not DVB-H, DVB-T (Not Handheld but Terrestrial).
BR, S
This thing is going to be interesting. I wonder how DTV is going to deal with the shadows problems in CBD area and around tall buildings. On analogue systems, this created a phase lag ( if I remember the correct term ) with a reflected wave, causing "shadows" on signal received. Digital will just cancel each other out as noise and DTV tuner unable to re-construct stream, leading to no signal or blank screen. Will line of sight become too important. What about trees? SNR levels become critical... What do you guys think? :-)
Me thots.
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I agree with you Aki, interesting time lie ahead. Using VHF on digital the accuracy of transmitter power is still not fully solved issue yet. I think that the UHF range is full of other analogue channels, which might be a cause to avoid it. -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
If a your area is surrounded by tall trees or where multi-path reception is experienced, it is expected that digital signal quality to go up and down as the trees or aerial move in high winds. Wet leaves attenuate UHF DVB-T multiplex signals even more. If you have tall trees directly in line to the transmitter, you may get problems with reception dropout under adverse weather conditions. Trees can attenuate the DTT signal considerably especially when leaves are wet. ./bernard On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n
Not DVB-H, DVB-T (Not Handheld but Terrestrial).
BR, S
This thing is going to be interesting. I wonder how DTV is going to deal with the shadows problems in CBD area and around tall buildings. On analogue systems, this created a phase lag ( if I remember the correct term ) with a reflected wave, causing "shadows" on signal received. Digital will just cancel each other out as noise and DTV tuner unable to re-construct stream, leading to no signal or blank screen. Will line of sight become too important. What about trees? SNR levels become critical... What do you guys think? :-)
Me thots.
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I read somewhere thats its actually advisable to buy the a Digital Set Up Box separately than to buy A TV with an Inbuilt one(the so called Digital TV) and they rightfully argued that its cheaper to get the Set Up box than the digital TV itself and then the issue of when Technology changes u just upgrade the Box instead of buying another TV.....(just imagine if back in the days u bought a TV with a inbuilt VCR, then a few months down the line VCD appear....then u buy nother TV with an inbuilt VCD player....and oh my there is DVD.....u get my drift......... On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
If a your area is surrounded by tall trees or where multi-path reception is experienced, it is expected that digital signal quality to go up and down as the trees or aerial move in high winds. Wet leaves attenuate UHF DVB-T multiplex signals even more. If you have tall trees directly in line to the transmitter, you may get problems with reception dropout under adverse weather conditions. Trees can attenuate the DTT signal considerably especially when leaves are wet.
./bernard
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The way I understand it is that the transmission of the tv signal wil be via DVB-H . . Or something like that . . Kinda like wot safcom n
Not DVB-H, DVB-T (Not Handheld but Terrestrial).
BR, S
This thing is going to be interesting. I wonder how DTV is going to deal with the shadows problems in CBD area and around tall buildings. On analogue systems, this created a phase lag ( if I remember the correct term ) with a reflected wave, causing "shadows" on signal received. Digital will just cancel each other out as noise and DTV tuner unable to re-construct stream, leading to no signal or blank screen. Will line of sight become too important. What about trees? SNR levels become critical... What do you guys think? :-)
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On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:05 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I read somewhere thats its actually advisable to buy the a Digital Set Up Box separately than to buy A TV with an Inbuilt one(the so
In the US, the government had a program to assist buyers of set-top boxes get them cheaply, by issuing discount coupons until July 31. Fat chance the same would happen here. BR, S
What happened with the digital kenya initiative that was supposed to see KBC start digital TV signal tests by this week ? Kevin On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:05 AM, saich <saiched@gmail.com> wrote:
I read somewhere thats its actually advisable to buy the a Digital Set Up Box separately than to buy A TV with an Inbuilt one(the so
In the US, the government had a program to assist buyers of set-top boxes get them cheaply, by issuing discount coupons until July 31. Fat chance the same would happen here.
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Seems like intresting times ahead . . Here comes the information flood. . . On 10/19/09, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/10/3 Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com>
Hi pple, Just seen a billboard advertising the above. And there is a link given: www.freeview.co.ke
And the page is under construction (complete with a guy holding a jembe)
Nway, looks like something to look 4ward to. Anyone with additional info?
Halafu, a few days ago, PS. Ndemo said there is not a *single* digital tv in .ke right now. How true is this? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Mr Lawi, I see now that www.freeview.co.ke has content.
-- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
-- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com
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