So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN.. http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-... Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy? -- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy?
-- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
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Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the meantime? On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy?
-- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
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Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell...
The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange + Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned).
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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No clue :-). I am struggling to wrap my head around their business model. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the meantime?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy?
-- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
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Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell...
The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange + Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned).
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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I think the idea was to get as many subscribers (CRITICAL MASS) to their network as possible. They now have close to 1.4 million subscribers on their network.
From today's dailies I have seen that they are now charging 2 bob......this will still make them the cheapest network and improve their cash flow...on a minimum YU can make 2.8 million bob per day.
With 2.8 million daily you can have a good business. They may not be like Safaricom or Orange but they can have a small lean ,with good quality products and make a small tidy profit. How many businesses apart from Equity,Utility and Telecommunication companies do you know who have 1.4 million customers? On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
No clue :-).
I am struggling to wrap my head around their business model.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the meantime?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy?
-- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
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Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell...
The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange + Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned).
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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They are charging 2 bob for the first minute of yu - yu calls of the day and the rest of the minutes are free - atleast a better strategy than free all day ./Ok3ch On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the idea was to get as many subscribers (CRITICAL MASS) to their network as possible.
They now have close to 1.4 million subscribers on their network.
From today's dailies I have seen that they are now charging 2 bob......this will still make them the cheapest network and improve their cash flow...on a minimum YU can make 2.8 million bob per day.
With 2.8 million daily you can have a good business.
They may not be like Safaricom or Orange but they can have a small lean ,with good quality products and make a small tidy profit.
How many businesses apart from Equity,Utility and Telecommunication companies do you know who have 1.4 million customers?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
No clue :-). I am struggling to wrap my head around their business model.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the meantime?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy? -- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
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Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell... The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange + Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned). -- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day.... On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
They are charging 2 bob for the first minute of yu - yu calls of the day and the rest of the minutes are free - atleast a better strategy than free all day
./Ok3ch
I think the idea was to get as many subscribers (CRITICAL MASS) to their network as possible.
They now have close to 1.4 million subscribers on their network.
From today's dailies I have seen that they are now charging 2 bob......this will still make them the cheapest network and improve their cash flow...on a minimum YU can make 2.8 million bob per day.
With 2.8 million daily you can have a good business.
They may not be like Safaricom or Orange but they can have a small lean ,with good quality products and make a small tidy profit.
How many businesses apart from Equity,Utility and Telecommunication companies do you know who have 1.4 million customers?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
No clue :-). I am struggling to wrap my head around their business model.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com
wrote:
Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the
meantime?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <
samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>
wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business
strategy?
-- Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your vocation. - Aristotle
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Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell... The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote: +
Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned). -- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy. otherwise you will loose focus. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day....
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
They are charging 2 bob for the first minute of yu - yu calls of the day and the rest of the minutes are free - atleast a better strategy than free all day
./Ok3ch
I think the idea was to get as many subscribers (CRITICAL MASS) to their network as possible.
They now have close to 1.4 million subscribers on their network.
From today's dailies I have seen that they are now charging 2 bob......this will still make them the cheapest network and improve their cash flow...on a minimum YU can make 2.8 million bob per day.
With 2.8 million daily you can have a good business.
They may not be like Safaricom or Orange but they can have a small lean ,with good quality products and make a small tidy profit.
How many businesses apart from Equity,Utility and Telecommunication companies do you know who have 1.4 million customers?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
No clue :-). I am struggling to wrap my head around their business model.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Samuel Mbugua <
samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>
wrote:
Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the
meantime?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua <
samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>
wrote: > > So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting > sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN.. > > http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-... > > Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy? > -- > Where the needs of the world and your talents cross, there lies your > vocation. - Aristotle > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell... The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote: +
Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned). -- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day....
And the same dollar is trying to catch up with fuel at 118. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day....
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Do they have a Business Plan? No one gains market share by giving services away yet they have suppliers and vendors to pay. Kiania D. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
And the same dollar is trying to catch up with fuel at 118.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com
wrote:
So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day....
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Every offer usually has a catch to it....so we might want to dig up more into their business strategy...may be the numbers (both customers and cash) are just a tip of the iceberg On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Do they have a Business Plan? No one gains market share by giving services away yet they have suppliers and vendors to pay.
Kiania D.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
And the same dollar is trying to catch up with fuel at 118.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day....
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It's easier for me to stop being pessimistic and adopt the wait and see approach. No need to query so much what they are doing as long as it doesn't affect your own bottomline, yaye jowa!!! On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 15:47, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>wrote:
Every offer usually has a catch to it....so we might want to dig up more into their business strategy...may be the numbers (both customers and cash) are just a tip of the iceberg
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Do they have a Business Plan? No one gains market share by giving services away yet they have suppliers and vendors to pay.
Kiania D.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
And the same dollar is trying to catch up with fuel at 118.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com
wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom makes per day....
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can we look at this as a market penetration strategy .... drop prices, get the 2.8M per day = 1B and then sell value ads ... Guys ... dont all of us in the software/web game do this ? drop prices to get good customers and then after we have a portfolio ... we sell more to the same customers or charge more for work .... :) On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
It's easier for me to stop being pessimistic and adopt the wait and see approach. No need to query so much what they are doing as long as it doesn't affect your own bottomline, yaye jowa!!!
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 15:47, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>wrote:
Every offer usually has a catch to it....so we might want to dig up more into their business strategy...may be the numbers (both customers and cash) are just a tip of the iceberg
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Do they have a Business Plan? No one gains market share by giving services away yet they have suppliers and vendors to pay.
Kiania D.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
And the same dollar is trying to catch up with fuel at 118.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com
wrote:
@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald < mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
> So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? > 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom > makes per day.... > > >
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My opinion is that all those guys at Yu ain't sleeping on their Job, definitely they are up-to something On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
It's easier for me to stop being pessimistic and adopt the wait and see approach. No need to query so much what they are doing as long as it doesn't affect your own bottomline, yaye jowa!!!
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 15:47, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>wrote:
Every offer usually has a catch to it....so we might want to dig up more into their business strategy...may be the numbers (both customers and cash) are just a tip of the iceberg
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Do they have a Business Plan? No one gains market share by giving services away yet they have suppliers and vendors to pay.
Kiania D.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
And the same dollar is trying to catch up with fuel at 118.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com
wrote:
@joram, 2 shillings and free calls and 2.4 million daily appears a lot of money until you figure outmost of your suppliers, fuel, foreign staff et al are paid in dollars! Nkt.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Joseph McDonald < mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
some times in business dont look at you competitor make your slice of cheddar and be happy.
otherwise you will loose focus.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
> So if they sell, will the new buyer maintain those rates? > 2.8 million per day sounds like a lot,until you hear what safaricom > makes per day.... > > >
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They operate in a multi-sim envirionment. And they are effectively reducing their cashflows by offering free calls within their wn network. So how do they even make payroll let alone running costs for the network? On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I think the idea was to get as many subscribers (CRITICAL MASS) to their network as possible.
They now have close to 1.4 million subscribers on their network.
From today's dailies I have seen that they are now charging 2 bob......this will still make them the cheapest network and improve their cash flow...on a minimum YU can make 2.8 million bob per day.
With 2.8 million daily you can have a good business.
They may not be like Safaricom or Orange but they can have a small lean ,with good quality products and make a small tidy profit.
How many businesses apart from Equity,Utility and Telecommunication companies do you know who have 1.4 million customers?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
No clue :-).
I am struggling to wrap my head around their business model.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Samuel Mbugua <samuel.mbugua@gmail.com>wrote:
Very well...but how do they plan to meet their overheads in the meantime?
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Samuel Mbugua < samuel.mbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
So...while Yu is crowing about all day free calls, they are getting sued silly for outstanding charges by KDN..
http://www.telegeography.com/products/commsupdate/articles/2011/09/26/essar-...
Which then begs the question: What, if any, is their business strategy?
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Gain as many subscribers as possible. Sell...
The only telco's with decent business models in .ke seem to be Orange + Safaricom (both, ironically, partly government owned).
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Agosta Liko -
David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
Gregory Okoth -
Joram Mwinamo -
Joseph McDonald -
Karimi -
Mickey Mickey -
Odhiambo Washington -
Okechukwu -
Peter Osotsi -
Phares Kariuki -
Samuel Mbugua