Re: [Skunkworks] M-PESA Statements on Email
This was just an example I was giving with the email and actually in fact, even though emails are easily visible..it would be really hard for them to be able to accurately associate a user’s email address with their number. For example, you have my email address but without crowd sourcing for info from other user’s; you do not know my number since it is not anywhere online. I do not think even many people stated their emails on SIM registration since more often that not people register for SIM cards before they even can access the internet and Safaricom is the telco becomes their first ISP and not many people fill out this info I believe. But think about it, with just a little bit of data analysis on their part from data they have about you already; any telco knows where you live, your current location, who your family are (from most called, texted or MPESAd people) and where they live, your habits(from where you pay with MPESA and location), what you talk about(from messages), what sites you visit(any ISP can tell this). Armed with your email address, any user with admin access to their servers can now investigate on a deeper scale on what you do online etc etc Using an email address, what you talk about, are opposed to, advocate for can easily be determined using APIs such as Facebook, Twitter and Google. At first it does not sound scary but in reality, a simulated model of any user can be created using all this data extracted and some machine learning used to analyze your predicted reaction towards a product advert, a political candidate or anywhere where there is a choice to be made. Lol..selling this information to any ad providers and governments would make any telco almost the same if not more revenues than they make from voice, sms etc. A long time ago people it was very easy to see how freedom was being taken away(physically) and it was easier to champion for the same freedoms..now each and every day we give away small bits of freedom for convenience without even realizing it Btw I am not a paranoid person :D :D. That is just food for thought
On Mar 2, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Hehehe.... Kelvin, this information about you almost any party can extract from many sources. Infact si your email address is in this email/forum and you don’t know how many people are here?
If it was other deeper info I would be concerned.
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This is a cool feature but very scary for me. With just over 25m registered subscribers this gives Safaricom access to one more personal bit of personal user info i.e. your email.
My issue now becomes how closely does Safaricom guard our personal information? e.g. In case Safaricom decides to give a third party access to this info e.g. the GOK; lol..if it does not do this already, it may end up being a liability for the consumer especially in a repressive regime
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:00:56 +0300 From: Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> To: David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for VHS to DVD transfer services Message-ID: <CAC-Lwjz4BQyWAJiiY72S0Xh0fQ5B9fVcOi8fZSHOxJ7mPNeWfA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Not sure how he did it, but he did a good job... Now someone can finally watch reruns of Interbang, Azimuths, Dunia Wiki Hii and Aplause Aplause, super gran, tahamaki, tropical heat and Kappatoo :-)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:36 PM, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
Did he have to sit through the entire VHS running time for the transfer or there is a faster way? Just curious.
On 2 March 2016 at 15:20, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
For the record, got someone to do this.
Maina - 0722-756-665 - Ribeiro Hse(Formerly Ramogi Studio), Luthuli Avenue 3rd Floor Room 310
Professional service and good rate.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Anybody know where I can get VHS to DVD transfer services?
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 20:12:20 +0700 From: Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> To: Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for VHS to DVD transfer services Message-ID: <CAAwF6r9ziKt5xSkMRqwkGnJQ=+BkYARK5=Za8bwmj8TeG_eQ=w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
David,
I know one can use a capture card or an analog TV card with RCA-IN inputs. VLC captures the video. Considering tape is analog, one has go through the entire recording on the tape while capturing the content. Now can you create tahamaki torrent we start seeding.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Not sure how he did it, but he did a good job... Now someone can finally watch reruns of Interbang, Azimuths, Dunia Wiki Hii and Aplause Aplause, super gran, tahamaki, tropical heat and Kappatoo :-)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:36 PM, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
Did he have to sit through the entire VHS running time for the transfer or there is a faster way? Just curious.
On 2 March 2016 at 15:20, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
For the record, got someone to do this.
Maina - 0722-756-665 - Ribeiro Hse(Formerly Ramogi Studio), Luthuli Avenue 3rd Floor Room 310
Professional service and good rate.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Anybody know where I can get VHS to DVD transfer services?
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:39:50 +0300 From: Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] File Tracking System Message-ID: <CAJxpFmQSDgyA9dTJbbN7otAQ08RPaED1wBaqwUpufxJrjs+6Ew@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Guys,
Does anyone know of an open source file tracking solution. This is for physical files similar to assets management where one can track when a file leaves a certain section and to whom it was sent to as well as track when someone returns the file.
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 18:22:29 +0430 From: Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> To: njukey@gmail.com, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] M-PESA Statements on Email Message-ID: <CAKQrT9aKM0bAiSzqEt7-6gGDapR_j_oWdViuzPS4CJTCBedcFQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
+1. This has always been available. I don't understand why people +queue at the shops to have this printed and at a cost
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:13 PM, David Njuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okech, you are not the only one. I use the same too.
Small typo on the link you sent, the correct one is http://selfcare.safaricom.co.ke/ :)
On 2 March 2016 at 15:28, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Is it only me who has been downloading Mpesa statements for like ages from selfceare.safaricom.co.ke ? I didn't see any new development as I have all my statements to date and always password protect the pdf's once downloaded
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
That's the important question!
If the person can access your e-mail, then really...
But spouses should earn to be transparent ...
On 2 March 2016 at 13:51, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
So are our Emails also that 'easily accessible'' ?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> True. That person also needs to have access to your e-mail > account to access the statement! So what's the big deal actually? > > On 2 March 2016 at 13:41, Mark Kipyegon <mkipyegon@outlook.com> wrote: > >> That becomes a moot point if someone knows your ID number, >> doesn't it? Especially considering how often we have to give out that ID number. >> >> On 2 Mar 2016, at 13:27, "Odhiambo Washington" >> <odhiambo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> When you register to receive the statement, you are prompted for >> an identification number (like ID). When you receive the >> statement via e-mail, this identification number you provided is >> used as the password to open the PDF. >> >> On 2 March 2016 at 12:45, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> They definitely should add some form of password protection to >>> prevent abuse. >>> >>> -- >>> keybase.io/kipyegonmark >>> >>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 12:05, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I do though have a concern.The only security feature that is >>> provided to >>>> protect my statement is my identification document number such >>>> as >>> National >>>> ID, Passport etc. >>>> >>>> Now let us be honest,most of us, our identification details >>>> are >>> known by so >>>> many people hence such persons can easily access my personal >>> statement on >>>> the go. >>>> >>>> If we have a Safaricom person among us.I suggest, in an effort >>>> to >>> enhance >>>> on the statement access security feature you add over and >>>> above the identification document details E.g. my Mpesa Pin >>>> which is mostly >>> known to >>>> me. >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 >> "Oh, the cruft." >> >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > "Oh, the cruft." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Episode 8: I dared two expert hackers to destroy my life. Here’s what happened. <http://fusion.net/video/271750/real-future-episode-8-hack-attack/> Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +93 799 99 4235 / +254 721 69 9119 Home: +254 20 528 3207 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Kelvin Mutuma via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
This was just an example I was giving with the email and actually in fact, even though emails are easily visible..it would be really hard for them to be able to accurately associate a user’s email address with their number. For example, you have my email address but without crowd sourcing for info from other user’s; you do not know my number since it is not anywhere online. I do not think even many people stated their emails on SIM registration since more often that not people register for SIM cards before they even can access the internet and Safaricom is the telco becomes their first ISP and not many people fill out this info I believe.
But think about it, with just a little bit of data analysis on their part from data they have about you already; any telco knows where you live, your current location, who your family are (from most called, texted or MPESAd people) and where they live, your habits(from where you pay with MPESA and location), what you talk about(from messages), what sites you visit(any ISP can tell this). Armed with your email address, any user with admin access to their servers can now investigate on a deeper scale on what you do online etc etc
Using an email address, what you talk about, are opposed to, advocate for can easily be determined using APIs such as Facebook, Twitter and Google.
At first it does not sound scary but in reality, a simulated model of any user can be created using all this data extracted and some machine learning used to analyze your predicted reaction towards a product advert, a political candidate or anywhere where there is a choice to be made.
Lol..selling this information to any ad providers and governments would make any telco almost the same if not more revenues than they make from voice, sms etc.
A long time ago people it was very easy to see how freedom was being taken away(physically) and it was easier to champion for the same freedoms..now each and every day we give away small bits of freedom for convenience without even realizing it
Btw I am not a paranoid person :D :D. That is just food for thought
On Mar 2, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Hehehe.... Kelvin, this information about you almost any party can extract from many sources. Infact si your email address is in this email/forum and you don’t know how many people are here?
If it was other deeper info I would be concerned.
-----Original Message----- From: Kelvin Mutuma via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 5:08 PM To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] M-PESA Statements on Email
This is a cool feature but very scary for me. With just over 25m registered subscribers this gives Safaricom access to one more personal bit of personal user info i.e. your email.
My issue now becomes how closely does Safaricom guard our personal information? e.g. In case Safaricom decides to give a third party access to this info e.g. the GOK; lol..if it does not do this already, it may end up being a liability for the consumer especially in a repressive regime
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1. Re: Looking for VHS to DVD transfer services (Patrick Kariuki) 2. Re: Looking for VHS to DVD transfer services (Brian L) 3. File Tracking System (Amarjit Labhuram) 4. Re: M-PESA Statements on Email (Kennedy Kairu Kariuki)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:00:56 +0300 From: Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> To: David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for VHS to DVD transfer services Message-ID: < CAC-Lwjz4BQyWAJiiY72S0Xh0fQ5B9fVcOi8fZSHOxJ7mPNeWfA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Not sure how he did it, but he did a good job... Now someone can finally watch reruns of Interbang, Azimuths, Dunia Wiki Hii and Aplause Aplause, super gran, tahamaki, tropical heat and Kappatoo :-)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:36 PM, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
Did he have to sit through the entire VHS running time for the transfer or there is a faster way? Just curious.
On 2 March 2016 at 15:20, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
For the record, got someone to do this.
Maina - 0722-756-665 - Ribeiro Hse(Formerly Ramogi Studio), Luthuli Avenue 3rd Floor Room 310
Professional service and good rate.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Anybody know where I can get VHS to DVD transfer services?
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 20:12:20 +0700 From: Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> To: Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Looking for VHS to DVD transfer services Message-ID: <CAAwF6r9ziKt5xSkMRqwkGnJQ=+BkYARK5=Za8bwmj8TeG_eQ= w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
David,
I know one can use a capture card or an analog TV card with RCA-IN inputs. VLC captures the video. Considering tape is analog, one has go through the entire recording on the tape while capturing the content. Now can you create tahamaki torrent we start seeding.
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Not sure how he did it, but he did a good job... Now someone can finally watch reruns of Interbang, Azimuths, Dunia Wiki Hii and Aplause Aplause, super gran, tahamaki, tropical heat and Kappatoo :-)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:36 PM, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
Did he have to sit through the entire VHS running time for the transfer or there is a faster way? Just curious.
On 2 March 2016 at 15:20, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
For the record, got someone to do this.
Maina - 0722-756-665 - Ribeiro Hse(Formerly Ramogi Studio), Luthuli Avenue 3rd Floor Room 310
Professional service and good rate.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anybody know where I can get VHS to DVD transfer services? >
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:39:50 +0300 From: Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] File Tracking System Message-ID: < CAJxpFmQSDgyA9dTJbbN7otAQ08RPaED1wBaqwUpufxJrjs+6Ew@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Guys,
Does anyone know of an open source file tracking solution. This is for physical files similar to assets management where one can track when a file leaves a certain section and to whom it was sent to as well as track when someone returns the file.
Have a great day!
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 18:22:29 +0430 From: Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> To: njukey@gmail.com, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] M-PESA Statements on Email Message-ID: < CAKQrT9aKM0bAiSzqEt7-6gGDapR_j_oWdViuzPS4CJTCBedcFQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
+1. This has always been available. I don't understand why people +queue at the shops to have this printed and at a cost
Kind Regards,
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:13 PM, David Njuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Okech, you are not the only one. I use the same too.
Small typo on the link you sent, the correct one is http://selfcare.safaricom.co.ke/ :)
On 2 March 2016 at 15:28, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Is it only me who has been downloading Mpesa statements for like ages from selfceare.safaricom.co.ke ? I didn't see any new development as I have all my statements to date and always password protect the pdf's once downloaded
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
That's the important question!
If the person can access your e-mail, then really...
But spouses should earn to be transparent ...
On 2 March 2016 at 13:51, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
> So are our Emails also that 'easily accessible'' ? > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks > < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> True. That person also needs to have access to your e-mail >> account to access the statement! So what's the big deal actually? >> >> On 2 March 2016 at 13:41, Mark Kipyegon <mkipyegon@outlook.com> wrote: >> >>> That becomes a moot point if someone knows your ID number, >>> doesn't it? Especially considering how often we have to give out that ID number. >>> >>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 13:27, "Odhiambo Washington" >>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> When you register to receive the statement, you are prompted for >>> an identification number (like ID). When you receive the >>> statement via e-mail, this identification number you provided is >>> used as the password to open the PDF. >>> >>> On 2 March 2016 at 12:45, Mark Kipyegon via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> They definitely should add some form of password protection to >>>> prevent abuse. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> keybase.io/kipyegonmark >>>> >>>> On 2 Mar 2016, at 12:05, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I do though have a concern.The only security feature that is >>>> provided to >>>>> protect my statement is my identification document number such >>>>> as >>>> National >>>>> ID, Passport etc. >>>>> >>>>> Now let us be honest,most of us, our identification details >>>>> are >>>> known by so >>>>> many people hence such persons can easily access my personal >>>> statement on >>>>> the go. >>>>> >>>>> If we have a Safaricom person among us.I suggest, in an effort >>>>> to >>>> enhance >>>>> on the statement access security feature you add over and >>>>> above the identification document details E.g. my Mpesa Pin >>>>> which is mostly >>>> known to >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 >>> "Oh, the cruft." >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 >> "Oh, the cruft." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > ALVIN OCHOLA > 0722-313923 > www.greenline.co.ke >
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