Fedora 15 Network Bug

This is quite sad for Linux usability, while Fedora is taking the flux for being the first major Distro to roll out Gnome 3 , hence taking most of the initial backlash, F15 has also shipped again with a major NetworkManager bug that leaves most users unable to connect to any network. Sadly, you need to search the internet to know how to fix the bug. Even more sadly, many users may not be techy enough to know how to fix such bugs. Even more sadly is the fact that Fedora 13 shipped with exactly the same issue. This is a big challenge in Linux usability, It will remain for techies if normal users cannot find easy enough to use -- with Regards: <https://twitter.com/#%21/denniskioko> <http://blog.denniskioko.com> www.denniskioko.com

mine is working fine. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
This is quite sad for Linux usability, while Fedora is taking the flux for being the first major Distro to roll out Gnome 3 , hence taking most of the initial backlash, F15 has also shipped again with a major NetworkManager bug that leaves most users unable to connect to any network.
Sadly, you need to search the internet to know how to fix the bug. Even more sadly, many users may not be techy enough to know how to fix such bugs. Even more sadly is the fact that Fedora 13 shipped with exactly the same issue.
This is a big challenge in Linux usability, It will remain for techies if normal users cannot find easy enough to use
-- with Regards:
<https://twitter.com/#%21/denniskioko> <http://blog.denniskioko.com>
www.denniskioko.com
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Are the other options such as WICD also affected? Regards, Alex On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Muoki Maingi <mmviqtah@gmail.com> wrote:
mine is working fine.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
This is quite sad for Linux usability, while Fedora is taking the flux for being the first major Distro to roll out Gnome 3 , hence taking most of the initial backlash, F15 has also shipped again with a major NetworkManager bug that leaves most users unable to connect to any network.
Sadly, you need to search the internet to know how to fix the bug. Even more sadly, many users may not be techy enough to know how to fix such bugs. Even more sadly is the fact that Fedora 13 shipped with exactly the same issue.
This is a big challenge in Linux usability, It will remain for techies if normal users cannot find easy enough to use
-- with Regards:
<https://twitter.com/#%21/denniskioko> <http://blog.denniskioko.com>
www.denniskioko.com
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Try to connect a 3G modem and see if it will still be working fine afterwards: - see the number of posts on Fedora Forums - http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=10

No , only the default NetworkManager has these issues, unless WICD also shipped with a broken update

All odd numbers for Fedora Release are test versions {11, 13, 15} and should mainly be used by test users, ready to troubleshoot and advice FedoraProjects. Even number versions are be more stable but should not be used in server and network system. For server and network system use CentOS or RedHat. ________________________________ From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: [Skunkworks] Fedora 15 Network Bug This is quite sad for Linux usability, while Fedora is taking the flux for being the first major Distro to roll out Gnome 3 , hence taking most of the initial backlash, F15 has also shipped again with a major NetworkManager bug that leaves most users unable to connect to any network. Sadly, you need to search the internet to know how to fix the bug. Even more sadly, many users may not be techy enough to know how to fix such bugs. Even more sadly is the fact that Fedora 13 shipped with exactly the same issue. This is a big challenge in Linux usability, It will remain for techies if normal users cannot find easy enough to use -- with Regards: www.denniskioko.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

That now clears it, I rem Fedora 11 had issues with Multimedia. Generally, I find it safer to recommend a backward release to a newbie

Guess I'm sticking with my Fedora 14 for the time being. On 6/2/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
That now clears it, I rem Fedora 11 had issues with Multimedia. Generally, I find it safer to recommend a backward release to a newbie
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Disable selinux and you will be ok. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess I'm sticking with my Fedora 14 for the time being.
On 6/2/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
That now clears it, I rem Fedora 11 had issues with Multimedia. Generally, I find it safer to recommend a backward release to a newbie
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Regards,
Alex
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Its not an SELinux issue but a bug with NetworkManager version 0.8.999-3.git20110526.fc15 (which was pushed into yum repositories on 26th May). Thus the original F15 distribution works fine until you attempt a yum update and thats where trouble begins. This is the fix: Download the three files http://bit.ly/kl3dEP, http://bit.ly/iA2mxr, and http://bit.ly/iko3Ma into a folder. Then as root, rpm -Uvh --oldpackage *.rpm If you need to do an update, then exclude NetworkManager from the updates: yum --exclude=NetworkManager* update -- Arthur On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 10:21 +0300, Alex Nderitu wrote:
Disable selinux and you will be ok.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com> wrote: Guess I'm sticking with my Fedora 14 for the time being.
On 6/2/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote: > That now clears it, I rem Fedora 11 had issues with Multimedia. Generally, I > find it safer to recommend a backward release to a newbie >
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Regards,
Alex
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Did not notice since I used pre-upgrade. So thought that's what shipped with the DVD

The DVD ships with the older version whose links I have provided. A new version of NetworkManager was released a few days ago and have been pushed today into the repositories (version 0.8.9997-1.git20110531.fc15). I have not yet updated to that version but I guess its a fix to the problem. On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 16:24 +0300, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Did not notice since I used pre-upgrade. So thought that's what shipped with the DVD
participants (6)
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Alex Nderitu
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Alex Ngatia
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Arthur Buliva
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Dennis Gichangi
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Dennis Kioko
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Muoki Maingi