Real-time election transmission
Hi Skunks, As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible. Please see below, what the app is all about. Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website. The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua1 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua> The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA> Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jame
Jamo, Good stuff. It is a step towards getting something powerful out of this forum. - I wish the software can detect finger prints - What measures have you taken to ensure that voters are not coerced/bribed for particular candidate. This Kenyans must be monitored otherwise they will auction their votes in realtime. *PS Using Kawetangula as ka-example though, use mine instead.* On 7 March 2017 at 16:31, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Skunks,
As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible.
Please see below, what the app is all about.
Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website.
The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua1 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua>
The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA>
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Jame
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Thank you Issac. The measures i have taken is that each vote is tied to the specific device matching the registered phone number, to ensure the user can only vote once, until the poll is re-opened. When IEBC avails their API, i'll be able to add more stringent measures, and provide more awesome features i have on hold due to lack of validated data. For the aspirants, they will be updated, when the various political parties provide their official lineup. I can try look into the fingerprint module as an update. The limitation would be that, not many devices have a fingerprint reader but its a very good option none the less. Regards, On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> wrote:
Jamo,
Good stuff. It is a step towards getting something powerful out of this forum.
- I wish the software can detect finger prints - What measures have you taken to ensure that voters are not coerced/bribed for particular candidate. This Kenyans must be monitored otherwise they will auction their votes in realtime.
*PS Using Kawetangula as ka-example though, use mine instead.*
On 7 March 2017 at 16:31, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Skunks,
As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible.
Please see below, what the app is all about.
Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website.
The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua1 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua>
The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA>
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Jame
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Nice work @James...just some queries below: 1) How do you deal with double voting? As in I may have 2-3 simcards and I vote repeatedly for my guy using each? 2) How do you deal with impersonation aka Ghost voters? Or put differently, how can you tell that a certain vote from Mrs. Walu, indeed came from Mrs. Walu and not the 'abusive' and dictator husband 'Mr. Walu'? Furthermore, Mrs. Walu perhaps preferred NOT to vote but Mr. Walu voted for her anyway. 3) How do you deal with lost phones, so cant vote. Or folks with feature phones rather than smart phones, Or forgotten passwords? 4) How do you handle the concept of 'VERIFICATION'? which is a constitutional requirement that elections must be accurate, secure and verifiable? The verifiable concept is often done through comparing the electronic output (results transmission) with the manual tally. You system seems to lack the 'manual' aspects hence the question on how you would do verifications in the event of election petitions. walu. From: Jambo Creative via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> Cc: Jambo Creative <jamesharuunmail@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Real-time election transmission Thank you Issac. The measures i have taken is that each vote is tied to the specific device matching the registered phone number, to ensure the user can only vote once, until the poll is re-opened. When IEBC avails their API, i'll be able to add more stringent measures, and provide more awesome features i have on hold due to lack of validated data. For the aspirants, they will be updated, when the various political parties provide their official lineup. I can try look into the fingerprint module as an update. The limitation would be that, not many devices have a fingerprint reader but its a very good option none the less. Regards, On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> wrote: Jamo, Good stuff. It is a step towards getting something powerful out of this forum. - I wish the software can detect finger prints- What measures have you taken to ensure that voters are not coerced/bribed for particular candidate. This Kenyans must be monitored otherwise they will auction their votes in realtime. PS Using Kawetangula as ka-example though, use mine instead. On 7 March 2017 at 16:31, Jambo Creative via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Hi Skunks,As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible. Please see below, what the app is all about. Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website. The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.devs.preve nes.amua1The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=nuRrDYokzzA2Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.Regards,Jame ______________________________ _________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopi c.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Isaac Kiplagat. KIP® _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
1. The double voting will be mitigated once IEBC release the voter registration data via their API. Voting will be limited to persons who are registered for the election. The ID number, mobile device and phone number will be used to validate votes. 2. This is one of the challenges that is quite difficult to eliminate completely. At the end, a Mock election can fall prey to such tactics. 3. You can lose a phone and the sim card, but the sim card will usually be replaced. Once i have the necessary data. Validation will be based on ID number and Phone numbers first, then the device as an additional measure. 4. Audit logs are assisting with the verification. Noting that each vote can be mapped to a specific ID number, phone no, device and account. We must all appreciate that i cannot protect 100% against mischief but i can sure give a 98% accuracy on the vote results. Which is a good enough margin for a Mock election app and give a general opinion on what the users think about the aspirants. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nice work @James...just some queries below:
1) How do you deal with double voting? As in I may have 2-3 simcards and I vote repeatedly for my guy using each?
2) How do you deal with impersonation aka Ghost voters? Or put differently, how can you tell that a certain vote from Mrs. Walu, indeed came from Mrs. Walu and not the 'abusive' and dictator husband 'Mr. Walu'? Furthermore, Mrs. Walu perhaps preferred NOT to vote but Mr. Walu voted for her anyway.
3) How do you deal with lost phones, so cant vote. Or folks with feature phones rather than smart phones, Or forgotten passwords?
4) How do you handle the concept of 'VERIFICATION'? which is a constitutional requirement that elections must be accurate, secure and verifiable? The verifiable concept is often done through comparing the electronic output (results transmission) with the manual tally. You system seems to lack the 'manual' aspects hence the question on how you would do verifications in the event of election petitions.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Jambo Creative via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *To:* Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> *Cc:* Jambo Creative <jamesharuunmail@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Real-time election transmission
Thank you Issac. The measures i have taken is that each vote is tied to the specific device matching the registered phone number, to ensure the user can only vote once, until the poll is re-opened.
When IEBC avails their API, i'll be able to add more stringent measures, and provide more awesome features i have on hold due to lack of validated data.
For the aspirants, they will be updated, when the various political parties provide their official lineup.
I can try look into the fingerprint module as an update. The limitation would be that, not many devices have a fingerprint reader but its a very good option none the less.
Regards,
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> wrote:
Jamo,
Good stuff. It is a step towards getting something powerful out of this forum.
- I wish the software can detect finger prints - What measures have you taken to ensure that voters are not coerced/bribed for particular candidate. This Kenyans must be monitored otherwise they will auction their votes in realtime.
*PS Using Kawetangula as ka-example though, use mine instead.*
On 7 March 2017 at 16:31, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Skunks, As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible. Please see below, what the app is all about. Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website. The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.devs.preve nes.amua1 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua> The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=nuRrDYokzzA2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA> Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jame
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98% might be over ambitious in my opinion, there are too many variables in the mix one major one being phone numbers. A person can register as many sim cards as he wishes. Not to mention the fact that lost id's are being used every day to register phone numbers fraudulently thus it becomes difficult to tie a phone number to a person. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
1. The double voting will be mitigated once IEBC release the voter registration data via their API. Voting will be limited to persons who are registered for the election. The ID number, mobile device and phone number will be used to validate votes.
2. This is one of the challenges that is quite difficult to eliminate completely. At the end, a Mock election can fall prey to such tactics.
3. You can lose a phone and the sim card, but the sim card will usually be replaced. Once i have the necessary data. Validation will be based on ID number and Phone numbers first, then the device as an additional measure.
4. Audit logs are assisting with the verification. Noting that each vote can be mapped to a specific ID number, phone no, device and account.
We must all appreciate that i cannot protect 100% against mischief but i can sure give a 98% accuracy on the vote results. Which is a good enough margin for a Mock election app and give a general opinion on what the users think about the aspirants.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nice work @James...just some queries below:
1) How do you deal with double voting? As in I may have 2-3 simcards and I vote repeatedly for my guy using each?
2) How do you deal with impersonation aka Ghost voters? Or put differently, how can you tell that a certain vote from Mrs. Walu, indeed came from Mrs. Walu and not the 'abusive' and dictator husband 'Mr. Walu'? Furthermore, Mrs. Walu perhaps preferred NOT to vote but Mr. Walu voted for her anyway.
3) How do you deal with lost phones, so cant vote. Or folks with feature phones rather than smart phones, Or forgotten passwords?
4) How do you handle the concept of 'VERIFICATION'? which is a constitutional requirement that elections must be accurate, secure and verifiable? The verifiable concept is often done through comparing the electronic output (results transmission) with the manual tally. You system seems to lack the 'manual' aspects hence the question on how you would do verifications in the event of election petitions.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Jambo Creative via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *To:* Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> *Cc:* Jambo Creative <jamesharuunmail@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Real-time election transmission
Thank you Issac. The measures i have taken is that each vote is tied to the specific device matching the registered phone number, to ensure the user can only vote once, until the poll is re-opened.
When IEBC avails their API, i'll be able to add more stringent measures, and provide more awesome features i have on hold due to lack of validated data.
For the aspirants, they will be updated, when the various political parties provide their official lineup.
I can try look into the fingerprint module as an update. The limitation would be that, not many devices have a fingerprint reader but its a very good option none the less.
Regards,
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> wrote:
Jamo,
Good stuff. It is a step towards getting something powerful out of this forum.
- I wish the software can detect finger prints - What measures have you taken to ensure that voters are not coerced/bribed for particular candidate. This Kenyans must be monitored otherwise they will auction their votes in realtime.
*PS Using Kawetangula as ka-example though, use mine instead.*
On 7 March 2017 at 16:31, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Skunks, As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible. Please see below, what the app is all about. Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website. The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.devs.preve nes.amua1 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua> The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=nuRrDYokzzA2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA> Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jame
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Jamo, All these concepts have been in the industry. If you are in to invest your time and energy on this idea then let me advice; It takes time for government to embrace this. Therefore start small, and build your own ladder, that means you become IEBC for high schools for 2 years, then be IEBC for colleges, and then start convincing IEBC that you can conduct a by-election when God dismisses politician. In 5 years other technologies will have come including brain scanner that can tell your preferred choice by scanning through complex thoughts in your brain. You will stand a better chance to drive the new innovations to the market. Regards, Isaac On 8 March 2017 at 08:25, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
98% might be over ambitious in my opinion, there are too many variables in the mix one major one being phone numbers. A person can register as many sim cards as he wishes. Not to mention the fact that lost id's are being used every day to register phone numbers fraudulently thus it becomes difficult to tie a phone number to a person.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
1. The double voting will be mitigated once IEBC release the voter registration data via their API. Voting will be limited to persons who are registered for the election. The ID number, mobile device and phone number will be used to validate votes.
2. This is one of the challenges that is quite difficult to eliminate completely. At the end, a Mock election can fall prey to such tactics.
3. You can lose a phone and the sim card, but the sim card will usually be replaced. Once i have the necessary data. Validation will be based on ID number and Phone numbers first, then the device as an additional measure.
4. Audit logs are assisting with the verification. Noting that each vote can be mapped to a specific ID number, phone no, device and account.
We must all appreciate that i cannot protect 100% against mischief but i can sure give a 98% accuracy on the vote results. Which is a good enough margin for a Mock election app and give a general opinion on what the users think about the aspirants.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nice work @James...just some queries below:
1) How do you deal with double voting? As in I may have 2-3 simcards and I vote repeatedly for my guy using each?
2) How do you deal with impersonation aka Ghost voters? Or put differently, how can you tell that a certain vote from Mrs. Walu, indeed came from Mrs. Walu and not the 'abusive' and dictator husband 'Mr. Walu'? Furthermore, Mrs. Walu perhaps preferred NOT to vote but Mr. Walu voted for her anyway.
3) How do you deal with lost phones, so cant vote. Or folks with feature phones rather than smart phones, Or forgotten passwords?
4) How do you handle the concept of 'VERIFICATION'? which is a constitutional requirement that elections must be accurate, secure and verifiable? The verifiable concept is often done through comparing the electronic output (results transmission) with the manual tally. You system seems to lack the 'manual' aspects hence the question on how you would do verifications in the event of election petitions.
walu.
------------------------------ *From:* Jambo Creative via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *To:* Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com> *Cc:* Jambo Creative <jamesharuunmail@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Real-time election transmission
Thank you Issac. The measures i have taken is that each vote is tied to the specific device matching the registered phone number, to ensure the user can only vote once, until the poll is re-opened.
When IEBC avails their API, i'll be able to add more stringent measures, and provide more awesome features i have on hold due to lack of validated data.
For the aspirants, they will be updated, when the various political parties provide their official lineup.
I can try look into the fingerprint module as an update. The limitation would be that, not many devices have a fingerprint reader but its a very good option none the less.
Regards,
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com
wrote:
Jamo,
Good stuff. It is a step towards getting something powerful out of this forum.
- I wish the software can detect finger prints - What measures have you taken to ensure that voters are not coerced/bribed for particular candidate. This Kenyans must be monitored otherwise they will auction their votes in realtime.
*PS Using Kawetangula as ka-example though, use mine instead.*
On 7 March 2017 at 16:31, Jambo Creative via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Skunks, As elections are gearing up, i made an app that allows users participate in mock elections and view the aggregate poll results in real-time. This was mostly a project to prove that real-time election data transmission is possible. Please see below, what the app is all about. Amua is Kenya's first mock election platform that allows you to participate in mock elections by voting for your preferred candidate across a variety of electoral areas and view the results in real-time on the mobile app. You can also view the presidential results in real-time on our website. The app is available for download here --> https://play.google.com/store/ apps/details?id=com.devs.preve nes.amua1 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devs.prevenes.amua> The video on how to use the app is available here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=nuRrDYokzzA2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRrDYokzzA> Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jame
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