Re: [Skunkworks] Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
@Brian The world is not made up of FOSS only! There is a price to pay for everything...especially the good things in life, hence the reason why one would pay for RedHat Enterprise Linux! Why train students to use Linux only yet that is not the ONLY thing being used in the real world? If we expose the young ones to ALL the available technologies, i'm sure the ones who are meant to excel will quickly choose their paths and perfect their skills regardless of the underlying technologies! If my future kids will be able to write both Windows and Linux software with equal expertise, why would would I want to trade that for anything less? ./mosys ------------------------------ From: Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> Sent: 6/4/2013 22:45 To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers @Moses "The argument about open source vs proprietary software is invalid!" <----- WRONG What about all the extra laptops that could have been bought instead of paying license fees to Microsoft?? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Two things;
1.0 The argument about open source vs proprietary software is invalid! We are moving further and further away from that point where the O.S mattered to a point where all you need is a SERVICE - think being able to create a document regardless of whichever software you are using or hosting your website on whichever server as long as people can access it!
2.0 I think getting proprietary software at a lower cost(or free) will actually be good for our next generation! Reason with me; Once we have the proprietary software, we can always download the FOSS alternatives and use them as well! Therefore, we get the best of both worlds! I personally started on a Apple machine(the very old ones) in lower primary, then Windows later on in my education and yet my job right now entails using enterprise Linux servers for 70% of my time! How about that?
On 4 June 2013 22:20, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use? Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably somebody with a bigger platform like Mr. Walubengo can write a blog where a bigger audience will be able to access the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
The question I ask myself is, "If I was paying for software license with my money, which direction would I take"?
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Moses M.G.
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By the way can anyone tell me which "third world" or "developing" country Apple supports? Never heard of any. M$ should not be seen as saints but provided they are supporting initiatives that lead to a knowledge based economy then we should be alright with it. On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brian
The world is not made up of FOSS only! There is a price to pay for everything...especially the good things in life, hence the reason why one would pay for RedHat Enterprise Linux! Why train students to use Linux only yet that is not the ONLY thing being used in the real world? If we expose the young ones to ALL the available technologies, i'm sure the ones who are meant to excel will quickly choose their paths and perfect their skills regardless of the underlying technologies! If my future kids will be able to write both Windows and Linux software with equal expertise, why would would I want to trade that for anything less?
./mosys ------------------------------ From: Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> Sent: 6/4/2013 22:45 To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Kenyatta secures Microsoft support for computers
@Moses
"The argument about open source vs proprietary software is invalid!" <----- WRONG
What about all the extra laptops that could have been bought instead of paying license fees to Microsoft??
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Moses M.G <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Two things;
1.0 The argument about open source vs proprietary software is invalid! We are moving further and further away from that point where the O.S mattered to a point where all you need is a SERVICE - think being able to create a document regardless of whichever software you are using or hosting your website on whichever server as long as people can access it!
2.0 I think getting proprietary software at a lower cost(or free) will actually be good for our next generation! Reason with me; Once we have the proprietary software, we can always download the FOSS alternatives and use them as well! Therefore, we get the best of both worlds! I personally started on a Apple machine(the very old ones) in lower primary, then Windows later on in my education and yet my job right now entails using enterprise Linux servers for 70% of my time! How about that?
On 4 June 2013 22:20, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Micro$oft will continue to laugh all the way to the bank, as we debate merits of what platform to adopt. Anybody ever heard of Economic Hit Men (EHM)! I can assure you, we have been hit.
Let's not forget that M$ is not evil. They are just trying as hard as everybody else to remain relevant in the hard economic times, and pay their shareholders. But should we do it with our blood?
How many new computers are sold with proprietary M$ software in Kenya? How much of that hard earned capital could go into better use? Why have established and developed economies seen the need to move from propietary software to FOSS, to the extend of legislating in parliament?
How comes the Open Source community was caught napping? How was M$ able to pull the carpet under them?
Probably somebody with a bigger platform like Mr. Walubengo can write a blog where a bigger audience will be able to access the merits and de-merits of the government position to partner with Micro$oft.
The question I ask myself is, "If I was paying for software license with my money, which direction would I take"?
Have you ever tried to change a company who's employees were weaned with M$ and ICDL to FOSS? You will see Organisational behavour resistance to change at it's best.
Remember "The foundation of a strong economy don't rest alone on the decision of Chancellors or the spending programs of government" - George Osborne _____________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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-- Kind Regards,
Moses M.G.
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-- Regards
Brian Ngure
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