Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
Steve, The one who implemented the idea where you are luckily had his own space, but he did not just sit and wait to sink. He went ahead and partitioned the office. For the starters of such locally we just need to have the right people and attitude. If lets say get like 10 guys, we sit and agree on terms then we raise like Ksh50,000 and deposit on a common account, we sit and draw a workable common business plan with interest of each. Boom! in months we will be on the runway. Lets not wait for magic. James. On 2/10/14, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Basically this guy decided to partitioned the office space he was leasing and no longer needed into several offices. Him being a brand strategist, he found that he worked a lot with designers, developers, photographers, marketers etc. He sublet the individual offices to the same freelancers who would complement what his work thereby bringing in a pool of necessary talent who would work with him and/or each other when the need arose or work on their own as they normally would. Then everyone shares the common areas, office accessories and services of the administrative staff.
In our case because there is no one who already has the space, then getting off the ground will definitely need some additional input from all involved in getting a place to start out.
Steve
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| From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 10 de Febrero 2014 9:30:46 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
| Hi Steve,
| Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the | kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the | details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in | seeing how the costs are worked out.
| On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
| | This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting | | on | | board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would | | have | | been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the | | country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set | | up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet | | marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The | | stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary | | services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, | | scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, | | snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its | | easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at | | the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help | | if need be. |
| | For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc | | and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act | | on | | it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and | | work out the details from there. You will make more progress that | | way. If not it will be another dud. |
| | Steve |
| | | From: "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > | | | | | | Sent: Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | | |
| | | Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not | | | just | | | | | | say it but do it in reality. | | |
| | | On 2/9/14, Memusi < tonatech@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | > Uko na point. | | | | | | > On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | > wrote: | | | | | | > | | | | | | >> Willy, | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares | | | >> that | | | >> are | | | | | | >> so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and | | | >> setting | | | | | | >> up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 | | | >> working | | | >> in | | | | | | >> one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My | | | >> opinion | | | >> is | | | | | | >> quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working | | | >> under | | | | | | >> one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. | | | >> Thereby | | | | | | >> cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of | | | | | | >> establishment, network and compete healthly. | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> On 2/9/14, William kibe < njoroge.kibe@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | >> > What do you have in mind? | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> > regards | | | | | | >> > Kibe William | | | | | | >> > On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com | | | >> > > | | | >> > wrote: | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> >> Skunks, | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> In every profession networking is the greatest asset for | | | | | | >> >> sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and | | | >> >> other | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small | | | >> >> independent | | | | | | >> >> business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in | | | >> >> Luthuli on | | | | | | >> >> our way to Gikomba. | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and | | | >> >> put | | | >> >> our | | | | | | >> >> minds together and work together and make our enterprises | | | >> >> an | | | | | | >> >> associates business. | | | | | | >> >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> | | | | | | > | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | |
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With Ksh500,000, business plan and focus getting a financier if we wont have gotten the sufficient capital will not be an issue. Example right now l have a briefcase IT company offering products and services with a proposed budget of Ksh700,000 and thats a total nighmare. As a team we reduce the investment risk, cost of operations and create a maturely competitive work environment. Just an idea. Regards. James - ISL. On 2/10/14, James Mutuma <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve, The one who implemented the idea where you are luckily had his own space, but he did not just sit and wait to sink. He went ahead and partitioned the office. For the starters of such locally we just need to have the right people and attitude. If lets say get like 10 guys, we sit and agree on terms then we raise like Ksh50,000 and deposit on a common account, we sit and draw a workable common business plan with interest of each. Boom! in months we will be on the runway. Lets not wait for magic. James.
On 2/10/14, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Basically this guy decided to partitioned the office space he was leasing and no longer needed into several offices. Him being a brand strategist, he found that he worked a lot with designers, developers, photographers, marketers etc. He sublet the individual offices to the same freelancers who would complement what his work thereby bringing in a pool of necessary talent who would work with him and/or each other when the need arose or work on their own as they normally would. Then everyone shares the common areas, office accessories and services of the administrative staff.
In our case because there is no one who already has the space, then getting off the ground will definitely need some additional input from all involved in getting a place to start out.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 10 de Febrero 2014 9:30:46 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
| Hi Steve,
| Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the | kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the | details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in | seeing how the costs are worked out.
| On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
| | This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting | | on | | board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would | | have | | been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the | | country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set | | up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet | | marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The | | stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary | | services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, | | scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, | | snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its | | easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at | | the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help | | if need be. |
| | For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc | | and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act | | on | | it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and | | work out the details from there. You will make more progress that | | way. If not it will be another dud. |
| | Steve |
| | | From: "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > | | | | | | Sent: Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | | |
| | | Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not | | | just | | | | | | say it but do it in reality. | | |
| | | On 2/9/14, Memusi < tonatech@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | > Uko na point. | | | | | | > On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | > wrote: | | | | | | > | | | | | | >> Willy, | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares | | | >> that | | | >> are | | | | | | >> so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and | | | >> setting | | | | | | >> up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 | | | >> working | | | >> in | | | | | | >> one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My | | | >> opinion | | | >> is | | | | | | >> quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working | | | >> under | | | | | | >> one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. | | | >> Thereby | | | | | | >> cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of | | | | | | >> establishment, network and compete healthly. | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> On 2/9/14, William kibe < njoroge.kibe@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | >> > What do you have in mind? | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> > regards | | | | | | >> > Kibe William | | | | | | >> > On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com | | | >> > > | | | >> > wrote: | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> >> Skunks, | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> In every profession networking is the greatest asset for | | | | | | >> >> sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and | | | >> >> other | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small | | | >> >> independent | | | | | | >> >> business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in | | | >> >> Luthuli on | | | | | | >> >> our way to Gikomba. | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and | | | >> >> put | | | >> >> our | | | | | | >> >> minds together and work together and make our enterprises | | | >> >> an | | | | | | >> >> associates business. | | | | | | >> >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> | | | | | | > | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | |
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. Mm On Feb 10, 2014 3:03 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
With Ksh500,000, business plan and focus getting a financier if we wont have gotten the sufficient capital will not be an issue. Example right now l have a briefcase IT company offering products and services with a proposed budget of Ksh700,000 and thats a total nighmare. As a team we reduce the investment risk, cost of operations and create a maturely competitive work environment. Just an idea.
Regards.
James - ISL.
On 2/10/14, James Mutuma <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve, The one who implemented the idea where you are luckily had his own space, but he did not just sit and wait to sink. He went ahead and partitioned the office. For the starters of such locally we just need to have the right people and attitude. If lets say get like 10 guys, we sit and agree on terms then we raise like Ksh50,000 and deposit on a common account, we sit and draw a workable common business plan with interest of each. Boom! in months we will be on the runway. Lets not wait for magic. James.
On 2/10/14, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Basically this guy decided to partitioned the office space he was leasing and no longer needed into several offices. Him being a brand strategist, he found that he worked a lot with designers, developers, photographers, marketers etc. He sublet the individual offices to the same freelancers who would complement what his work thereby bringing in a pool of necessary talent who would work with him and/or each other when the need arose or work on their own as they normally would. Then everyone shares the common areas, office accessories and services of the administrative staff.
In our case because there is no one who already has the space, then getting off the ground will definitely need some additional input from all involved in getting a place to start out.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 10 de Febrero 2014 9:30:46 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
| Hi Steve,
| Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the | kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the | details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in | seeing how the costs are worked out.
| On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
| | This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting | | on | | board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would | | have | | been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the | | country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set | | up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet | | marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The | | stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary | | services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, | | scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, | | snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its | | easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at | | the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help | | if need be. |
| | For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc | | and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act | | on | | it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and | | work out the details from there. You will make more progress that | | way. If not it will be another dud. |
| | Steve |
| | | From: "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > | | | | | | Sent: Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | | |
| | | Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not | | | just | | | | | | say it but do it in reality. | | |
| | | On 2/9/14, Memusi < tonatech@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | > Uko na point. | | | | | | > On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | > wrote: | | | | | | > | | | | | | >> Willy, | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares | | | >> that | | | >> are | | | | | | >> so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and | | | >> setting | | | | | | >> up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 | | | >> working | | | >> in | | | | | | >> one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My | | | >> opinion | | | >> is | | | | | | >> quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working | | | >> under | | | | | | >> one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. | | | >> Thereby | | | | | | >> cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of | | | | | | >> establishment, network and compete healthly. | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> On 2/9/14, William kibe < njoroge.kibe@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | >> > What do you have in mind? | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> > regards | | | | | | >> > Kibe William | | | | | | >> > On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com | | | >> > > | | | >> > wrote: | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> >> Skunks, | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> In every profession networking is the greatest asset for | | | | | | >> >> sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and | | | >> >> other | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small | | | >> >> independent | | | | | | >> >> business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in | | | >> >> Luthuli on | | | | | | >> >> our way to Gikomba. | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and | | | >> >> put | | | >> >> our | | | | | | >> >> minds together and work together and make our enterprises | | | >> >> an | | | | | | >> >> associates business. | | | | | | >> >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> | | | | | | > | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | |
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Like minded Skunks, l got some real weird personal messages from some morons. That was just an idea never-the-less, the project is in the pipeline. Its foolish for someone to criticise an idea simply because money has been mentioned. The 50k by 10 was just an example. An entrerprenuer goes beyond his fears otherwise we still remain where we were. James - ISL. On 3/18/14, Rocky Mbithi <rockymbithi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Mm On Feb 10, 2014 3:03 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
With Ksh500,000, business plan and focus getting a financier if we wont have gotten the sufficient capital will not be an issue. Example right now l have a briefcase IT company offering products and services with a proposed budget of Ksh700,000 and thats a total nighmare. As a team we reduce the investment risk, cost of operations and create a maturely competitive work environment. Just an idea.
Regards.
James - ISL.
On 2/10/14, James Mutuma <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve, The one who implemented the idea where you are luckily had his own space, but he did not just sit and wait to sink. He went ahead and partitioned the office. For the starters of such locally we just need to have the right people and attitude. If lets say get like 10 guys, we sit and agree on terms then we raise like Ksh50,000 and deposit on a common account, we sit and draw a workable common business plan with interest of each. Boom! in months we will be on the runway. Lets not wait for magic. James.
On 2/10/14, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Basically this guy decided to partitioned the office space he was leasing and no longer needed into several offices. Him being a brand strategist, he found that he worked a lot with designers, developers, photographers, marketers etc. He sublet the individual offices to the same freelancers who would complement what his work thereby bringing in a pool of necessary talent who would work with him and/or each other when the need arose or work on their own as they normally would. Then everyone shares the common areas, office accessories and services of the administrative staff.
In our case because there is no one who already has the space, then getting off the ground will definitely need some additional input from all involved in getting a place to start out.
Steve
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| From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 10 de Febrero 2014 9:30:46 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
| Hi Steve,
| Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the | kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the | details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in | seeing how the costs are worked out.
| On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
| | This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting | | on | | board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would | | have | | been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the | | country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set | | up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet | | marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The | | stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary | | services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, | | scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, | | snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its | | easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at | | the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help | | if need be. |
| | For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc | | and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act | | on | | it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and | | work out the details from there. You will make more progress that | | way. If not it will be another dud. |
| | Steve |
| | | From: "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > | | | | | | Sent: Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | | |
| | | Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not | | | just | | | | | | say it but do it in reality. | | |
| | | On 2/9/14, Memusi < tonatech@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | > Uko na point. | | | | | | > On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | > wrote: | | | | | | > | | | | | | >> Willy, | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares | | | >> that | | | >> are | | | | | | >> so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and | | | >> setting | | | | | | >> up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 | | | >> working | | | >> in | | | | | | >> one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My | | | >> opinion | | | >> is | | | | | | >> quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working | | | >> under | | | | | | >> one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. | | | >> Thereby | | | | | | >> cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of | | | | | | >> establishment, network and compete healthly. | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> On 2/9/14, William kibe < njoroge.kibe@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | >> > What do you have in mind? | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> > regards | | | | | | >> > Kibe William | | | | | | >> > On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com | | | >> > > | | | >> > wrote: | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> >> Skunks, | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> In every profession networking is the greatest asset for | | | | | | >> >> sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and | | | >> >> other | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small | | | >> >> independent | | | | | | >> >> business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in | | | >> >> Luthuli on | | | | | | >> >> our way to Gikomba. | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and | | | >> >> put | | | >> >> our | | | | | | >> >> minds together and work together and make our enterprises | | | >> >> an | | | | | | >> >> associates business. | | | | | | >> >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> | | | | | | > | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | |
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Get the guys interested and lets go offline and discuss it further - I am interested ./Ok3ch On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:05 AM, James Mutuma <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Like minded Skunks,
l got some real weird personal messages from some morons. That was just an idea never-the-less, the project is in the pipeline.
Its foolish for someone to criticise an idea simply because money has been mentioned. The 50k by 10 was just an example. An entrerprenuer goes beyond his fears otherwise we still remain where we were.
James - ISL.
On 3/18/14, Rocky Mbithi <rockymbithi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Mm On Feb 10, 2014 3:03 PM, "James Mutuma" <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
With Ksh500,000, business plan and focus getting a financier if we wont have gotten the sufficient capital will not be an issue. Example right now l have a briefcase IT company offering products and services with a proposed budget of Ksh700,000 and thats a total nighmare. As a team we reduce the investment risk, cost of operations and create a maturely competitive work environment. Just an idea.
Regards.
James - ISL.
On 2/10/14, James Mutuma <jmkmutuma@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve, The one who implemented the idea where you are luckily had his own space, but he did not just sit and wait to sink. He went ahead and partitioned the office. For the starters of such locally we just need to have the right people and attitude. If lets say get like 10 guys, we sit and agree on terms then we raise like Ksh50,000 and deposit on a common account, we sit and draw a workable common business plan with interest of each. Boom! in months we will be on the runway. Lets not wait for magic. James.
On 2/10/14, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Basically this guy decided to partitioned the office space he was leasing and no longer needed into several offices. Him being a brand strategist, he found that he worked a lot with designers, developers, photographers, marketers etc. He sublet the individual offices to the same freelancers who would complement what his work thereby bringing in a pool of necessary talent who would work with him and/or each other when the need arose or work on their own as they normally would. Then everyone shares the common areas, office accessories and services of the administrative staff.
In our case because there is no one who already has the space, then getting off the ground will definitely need some additional input from all involved in getting a place to start out.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
| From: "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Lunes, 10 de Febrero 2014 9:30:46 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks!
| Hi Steve,
| Since you are already in such a setup, could you probably share the | kind of agreement you signed for the arrangement. I am keen on the | details. Perhaps Mutuma already has one such, but there's no harm in | seeing how the costs are worked out.
| On 10 February 2014 10:51, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
| | This is a great idea. Personally I would be interested in getting | | on | | board hopefully from around September, hopefully progress would | | have | | been made by then. I do operate under this model but out of the | | country and I can tell you it comes with huge benefits. In that set | | up there is a graphics designer, developer, web designer, internet | | marketer, video editor and interior designer and a 3D artist. The | | stuff that's shared is receptionist, secretarial services, notary | | services, kitchen, phone and fax line, Internet, | | scanner/copier/printer, bills, office upkeep (furniture, coffee, | | snacks etc) and a fully equipped meeting room. With this set up its | | easy to collaborate on projects, share leads get referrals yet at | | the everyone is still independent and can bring in additional help | | if need be. |
| | For this to work from this list, I suggest you set up a Google doc | | and ask those interested to sign up, give it a time frame and act | | on | | it. Engage with those who sign up one-on-one, physically meet and | | work out the details from there. You will make more progress that | | way. If not it will be another dud. |
| | Steve |
| | | From: "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > | | | | | | Sent: Domingo, 9 de Febrero 2014 19:31:21 | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Hallo Skunks! | | |
| | | Its not about having a point, how realistic is the idea? Lets not | | | just | | | | | | say it but do it in reality. | | |
| | | On 2/9/14, Memusi < tonatech@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | > Uko na point. | | | | | | > On Feb 9, 2014 9:35 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com> | | | > wrote: | | | | | | > | | | | | | >> Willy, | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Along the way as an enterprenuer there are lots of nightmares | | | >> that | | | >> are | | | | | | >> so prohibitive and limiting like, capital, right manpower and | | | >> setting | | | | | | >> up business premises. Take an example of lawyers, 5 - 10 | | | >> working | | | >> in | | | | | | >> one office and each with a fair beacon to take home. My | | | >> opinion | | | >> is | | | | | | >> quite different. I would like to have several IT guys working | | | >> under | | | | | | >> one office, with a common administrative and clerical staff. | | | >> Thereby | | | | | | >> cutting operations and admin costs, cut prohibitive cost of | | | | | | >> establishment, network and compete healthly. | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> On 2/9/14, William kibe < njoroge.kibe@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | >> > What do you have in mind? | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> > regards | | | | | | >> > Kibe William | | | | | | >> > On Feb 9, 2014 8:54 PM, "James Mutuma" < jmkmutuma@gmail.com | | | >> > > | | | >> > wrote: | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> >> Skunks, | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> In every profession networking is the greatest asset for | | | | | | >> >> sustainability. Imagine lawyers, how about the Skunks and | | | >> >> other | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Savy? We have so many unhealthly competitive small | | | >> >> independent | | | | | | >> >> business mushrooming along Moi Avenue, Tom Mboya and now in | | | >> >> Luthuli on | | | | | | >> >> our way to Gikomba. | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> I need like minded enterprising IT guys ready to redefine | | | >> >> IT | | | | | | >> >> Professionalism and set a class of standard. Lets chat and | | | >> >> put | | | >> >> our | | | | | | >> >> minds together and work together and make our enterprises | | | >> >> an | | | | | | >> >> associates business. | | | | | | >> >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> >> ------------ | | | | | | >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> >> | | | | | | >> > | | | | | | >> _______________________________________________ | | | | | | >> skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> | | | | | | >> Skunkworks Rules | | | | | | >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | | | | | | >> ------------ | | | | | | >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke | | | | | | >> | | | | | | > | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | skunkworks mailing list | | | | | | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | | | | | | ------------ | | | | | | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | | | | | | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | | | | | | ------------ | | |
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Rocky Mbithi