Hello skunks, A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop). I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers... Cheers. *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
If the Mac is well spec'ed in terms or RAM you can run the Linux smoothly in a virtual machine on the Mac On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:45 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop).
I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers...
Cheers. *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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From experience Virtual Box runs pretty well as a VM on Mac.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the Mac is well spec'ed in terms or RAM you can run the Linux smoothly in a virtual machine on the Mac
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:45 AM, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello skunks,
A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop).
I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers...
Cheers. *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:45, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop).
I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers...
Why complicate things when all those apps you want to run can also be run natively on a Mac? OS X is Unix, and a better one at that. I suppose if you'd like to run Linux, just get hardware for it, unless the Mac is a server and yu have little leeway. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
My assumption was that he still intends to use the Mac. Personally buying a Mac to run Linux purely strikes me as a colossal waste of money On Thursday, March 24, 2011, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:45, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop).
I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers...
Why complicate things when all those apps you want to run can also be run natively on a Mac? OS X is Unix, and a better one at that. I suppose if you'd like to run Linux, just get hardware for it, unless the Mac is a server and yu have little leeway.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
Dont spoil the mac On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
My assumption was that he still intends to use the Mac. Personally buying a Mac to run Linux purely strikes me as a colossal waste of money
On Thursday, March 24, 2011, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:45, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello skunks,
A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My
poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop).
I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it
foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers...
Why complicate things when all those apps you want to run can also be run
natively on a Mac? OS X is Unix, and a better one at that.
I suppose if you'd like to run Linux, just get hardware for it, unless the Mac is a server and yu have little leeway.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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That's the point. I feel my hands itch when he asks if we can use it. I'm weighing the "we can but its complicated" answer. On Mar 24, 2011 10:54 AM, "Paul Kevin" <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Dont spoil the mac
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
My assumption was that he still intends to use the Mac. Personally buying a Mac to run Linux purely strikes me as a colossal waste of money
On Thursday, March 24, 2011, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:45, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello skunks,
A client has asked me to set up a server for some specific tasks. My
poison will be Debian, Postgres and a host of very un - steve jobs applications. (Including openbravo ERP). I seek from the experts here the demerits of saying.. ok, we can use one of your existing machines as the server (In this case a Mac OS desktop).
I know it is technically possible to run linux on these machines, is it
foolish to try? or should i just stick to good ole HP servers...
Why complicate things when all those apps you want to run can also be
run natively on a Mac? OS X is Unix, and a better one at that.
I suppose if you'd like to run Linux, just get hardware for it, unless the Mac is a server and yu have little leeway.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:38, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the point. I feel my hands itch when he asks if we can use it. I'm weighing the "we can but its complicated" answer.
I don't think it is complicated. Just ditch the idea about Linux and run the Mac as a server.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!!
On 24 March 2011 11:46, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:38, [Brainiac] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
That's the point. I feel my hands itch when he asks if we can use it. I'm weighing the "we can but its complicated" answer.
I don't think it is complicated. Just ditch the idea about Linux and run the Mac as a server.
Was thinking the same too. Mac OS runs on Darwin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) which is UNIX based, download the source of the applications and compile them on it. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Regards, David Njuki @njukey [Google,Twitter,Yahoo]
Advise your client like a true IT professional. Convince them to get a dedicated machine to run Linux from. Assembling one from reliable parts (avoid VIA & SIS chipset boards) will cost you less than 15k. If the client insists on the MAC you can install your services on it and they'll run. But be ware, using OSX as a server opens you to a host of venerabilities... checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn2Own. It's the least secure UNIX variant. Running a production/live server on a virtual machine is not really clever...you WILL not get the desired speed.
On 3/24/11, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
Running a production/live server on a virtual machine is not really clever...you WILL not get the desired speed.
@James, this last statement caught my eye. Are you sure?
Openbravo in my experience works well even on VMs on production level, the underlying factor being as Conrad mentioned the specs. On 3/25/11, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/24/11, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
Running a production/live server on a virtual machine is not really clever...you WILL not get the desired speed.
@James, this last statement caught my eye. Are you sure? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@kanyuru boss, running services from an emulated x86 machine running on (and sharing resources with) another os running... all this being run on desktop hardware? And you expect to get the same performance as running your services from a dedicated machine?
I agree with @james, and we have managed to change the direction of thinkin and now some lady who had an optiplex is very happy losing it in exchange... On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:59 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
@kanyuru boss, running services from an emulated x86 machine running on (and sharing resources with) another os running... all this being run on desktop hardware? And you expect to get the same performance as running your services from a dedicated machine? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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