
Hi, I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there..... I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative. If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward..... Regards PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya.... Regards (again) :-)

Bernard, Its about time Kenyans woke up and do what they need to do....this is a great idea, hope my blog post at http://blog.majibu.com/2009/10/05/my-challenge-to-you-the-african-yes-we-can... something to do with this - by the way, your name is somewhere there among a few others. David. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-) On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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Thanks Peter, I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side. I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say. I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty... PHP, MYSQL......for tools.... On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-)
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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Speaking more as an integrator, orange presents a good starting point. Developing a payroll functionality on a HR system gives opportunity for a bigger and receptive audience, and with open source projects, the community is key. Piggyback on the existing and branch out with appropriate feedback and growth plan. On 10/5/09, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side.
I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say.
I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty...
PHP, MYSQL......for tools....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-)
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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Areba, Thank you for your advise....and yes your right. I will re-evaluate orange and see. Am a software developer who believes in breaking problems into very smaller problems to solve each step by step.....(OOP).... hence why i want to consider a basic start.... On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
Speaking more as an integrator, orange presents a good starting point. Developing a payroll functionality on a HR system gives opportunity for a bigger and receptive audience, and with open source projects, the community is key. Piggyback on the existing and branch out with appropriate feedback and growth plan.
On 10/5/09, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side.
I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say.
I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty...
PHP, MYSQL......for tools....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-)
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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OPENWORLD has already localized the payroll module on OrangeHRM... touch base if interested On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:25 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Areba,
Thank you for your advise....and yes your right.
I will re-evaluate orange and see.
Am a software developer who believes in breaking problems into very smaller problems to solve each step by step.....(OOP).... hence why i want to consider a basic start....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
Speaking more as an integrator, orange presents a good starting point. Developing a payroll functionality on a HR system gives opportunity for a bigger and receptive audience, and with open source projects, the community is key. Piggyback on the existing and branch out with appropriate feedback and growth plan.
On 10/5/09, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side.
I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say.
I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty...
PHP, MYSQL......for tools....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-)
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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Hi Muthoni, Is the OPENWORLD customised package available for download or is the customisation held as a private solution.... let me know. Regards On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
OPENWORLD has already localized the payroll module on OrangeHRM... touch base if interested
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:25 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Areba,
Thank you for your advise....and yes your right.
I will re-evaluate orange and see.
Am a software developer who believes in breaking problems into very smaller problems to solve each step by step.....(OOP).... hence why i want to consider a basic start....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
Speaking more as an integrator, orange presents a good starting point. Developing a payroll functionality on a HR system gives opportunity for a bigger and receptive audience, and with open source projects, the community is key. Piggyback on the existing and branch out with appropriate feedback and growth plan.
On 10/5/09, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side.
I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say.
I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty...
PHP, MYSQL......for tools....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-)
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a way forward.....
Regards
PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya....
Regards (again) :-)
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Not yet, but we have been intouch with the global orangehrm community for further works On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Muthoni,
Is the OPENWORLD customised package available for download or is the customisation held as a private solution....
let me know.
Regards
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
OPENWORLD has already localized the payroll module on OrangeHRM... touch base if interested
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:25 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Areba,
Thank you for your advise....and yes your right.
I will re-evaluate orange and see.
Am a software developer who believes in breaking problems into very smaller problems to solve each step by step.....(OOP).... hence why i want to consider a basic start....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
Speaking more as an integrator, orange presents a good starting point. Developing a payroll functionality on a HR system gives opportunity for a bigger and receptive audience, and with open source projects, the community is key. Piggyback on the existing and branch out with appropriate feedback and growth plan.
On 10/5/09, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side.
I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say.
I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty...
PHP, MYSQL......for tools....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound project worth your consideration as a contributor :-)
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out > there..... > > I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan > market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project > - I > will prefer to support an existing initiative. > > If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare > time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a > way forward..... > > Regards > > PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya.... > > Regards (again) :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Sounds good........we will definately be in touch with you to see the progress made on that....and to seek support from you as well. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Not yet, but we have been intouch with the global orangehrm community for further works
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Muthoni,
Is the OPENWORLD customised package available for download or is the customisation held as a private solution....
let me know.
Regards
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com>wrote:
OPENWORLD has already localized the payroll module on OrangeHRM... touch base if interested
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:25 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>wrote:
Areba,
Thank you for your advise....and yes your right.
I will re-evaluate orange and see.
Am a software developer who believes in breaking problems into very smaller problems to solve each step by step.....(OOP).... hence why i want to consider a basic start....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
Speaking more as an integrator, orange presents a good starting point. Developing a payroll functionality on a HR system gives opportunity for a bigger and receptive audience, and with open source projects, the community is key. Piggyback on the existing and branch out with appropriate feedback and growth plan.
On 10/5/09, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
I did evaluate this a while back....and it appeared to be more on the HRM side.
I think I am more inclined to a system that solves Kenya's unique payroll issues as you say.
I will see what response we get by Wednesday..... If none is available....then we get our hands dirty...
PHP, MYSQL......for tools....
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kioko, have a look at http://www.orangehrm.com/, last time i evaluated it > for my employer, it was rejected because it didn't take into account the > unique payroll habits of Kenyans, but I think its a technically sound > project worth your consideration as a contributor :-) > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out >> there..... >> >> I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan >> market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project >> - I >> will prefer to support an existing initiative. >> >> If none exists though.....and your interested in using your spare >> time...for a noble cause.....then drop me an email an email we can chat a >> way forward..... >> >> Regards >> >> PS: Maybe we need an index for open source software in Kenya.... >> >> Regards (again) :-) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
I was involved in payroll software dev for some time (note: not offering to be on team just changiaring kidogo;-) One finds that all *international* always need extensive localisation to cater for local market. They included tax brackets, taxable benefits, allowances, loans, cooperative(sacco), statutory deductions.. etc among a host of parameters a number of which changed at each year's budget. Used to include bank export (e.g.'sfi') files for banks to accept/ auto process direct into staff accounts. Payroll softwares also needed KRA certification/approval and was mandatory to cite the approval -P9s, P10 and P11..etc. Otherwise various packages 'just did their own things', for example, <http://www.ratio-magazine.com/20080907151/Kenya/Kenya-Revenue-Authority-and-Citibank-to-Settle-Out-of-Court-in-Tax-Dispute.html> In short, you can never go wrong, let me re-phrase that, you have a BIG market ahead if you develop one FOSS-based. Hope this helps.

While we are all looking for a kenyanized way of handling this, i think we need to take a step back, look at the realities of oss. For one, kenya borrows heavily from our colonial masters, so international is achievable. Secondly, i think its better to have a very high level of customization to suit many scenarios. This will attract more users and hence feed back and support. On 10/5/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I will prefer to support an existing initiative.
I was involved in payroll software dev for some time (note: not offering to be on team just changiaring kidogo;-)
One finds that all *international* always need extensive localisation to cater for local market. They included tax brackets, taxable benefits, allowances, loans, cooperative(sacco), statutory deductions.. etc among a host of parameters a number of which changed at each year's budget. Used to include bank export (e.g.'sfi') files for banks to accept/ auto process direct into staff accounts.
Payroll softwares also needed KRA certification/approval and was mandatory to cite the approval -P9s, P10 and P11..etc. Otherwise various packages 'just did their own things', for example, <http://www.ratio-magazine.com/20080907151/Kenya/Kenya-Revenue-Authority-and-Citibank-to-Settle-Out-of-Court-in-Tax-Dispute.html>
In short, you can never go wrong, let me re-phrase that, you have a BIG market ahead if you develop one FOSS-based.
Hope this helps. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

Hi Denis, I'm interested, count me in! -- Ndungi Kyalo "if you want to go fast go alone, if you want to go far get company" http://biblia.kenya.or.ke On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
While we are all looking for a kenyanized way of handling this, i think we need to take a step back, look at the realities of oss. For one, kenya borrows heavily from our colonial masters, so international is achievable. Secondly, i think its better to have a very high level of customization to suit many scenarios. This will attract more users and hence feed back and support.
On 10/5/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:58 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
I am wondering if there is any "kenyan" open source payroll software out there.....
I am considering working on an Open Source Payroll System for Kenyan market but I do not wish to do if anyone out there has a similar project - I
will
prefer to support an existing initiative.
I was involved in payroll software dev for some time (note: not offering to be on team just changiaring kidogo;-)
One finds that all *international* always need extensive localisation to cater for local market. They included tax brackets, taxable benefits, allowances, loans, cooperative(sacco), statutory deductions.. etc among a host of parameters a number of which changed at each year's budget. Used to include bank export (e.g.'sfi') files for banks to accept/ auto process direct into staff accounts.
Payroll softwares also needed KRA certification/approval and was mandatory to cite the approval -P9s, P10 and P11..etc. Otherwise various packages 'just did their own things', for example, < http://www.ratio-magazine.com/20080907151/Kenya/Kenya-Revenue-Authority-and-...
In short, you can never go wrong, let me re-phrase that, you have a BIG market ahead if you develop one FOSS-based.
Hope this helps. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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participants (7)
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Areba Collins
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bernard kioko
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David Mugo
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Dorcas Muthoni
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Gakuru Alex
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Ndungi Kyalo
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Peter Karunyu