KENIC missing out on great funding opportunity

there was a thread sometime back on high cost of .co.ke domains because of volumes / the money is used to fund KENIC etc ... here is an idea i hope someone at KENIC can make use of : presently it isnt possible to buy <my domain name>.ke (only <my domain>.co.ke ... or <my domain>.or.ke ...). if KENIC allowed purchase of secondary TLDs i.e. <my domain name>.ke they could actually ask for higher prices for certain domain names : e.g. --- http://mi.ke (i am sure there are many Mikes in the world willing to pay good money for that domain) --- http://clar.ke , http://broo.ke apart from names there are english words ending with ke ... : --- http://li.ke http://ba.ke (some bakery i guess ?) http://sna.ke Here is a time article from 1999 (about the nation of tonga who marketed the .to tld ..... by 1999 they had sold 17,000 domains at $100 / 2years ... thats already 17 million dollars back in 1999 ...when the dollar was actually worth something ) <http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,26349,00.html>

talking of natural resources, ins't co.ke a unique and easy to remember domain ending. am sure someone in the states would find that amusing? 2009/8/28 Ashok Hariharan <ashok@parliaments.info>
there was a thread sometime back on high cost of .co.ke domains because of volumes / the money is used to fund KENIC etc ...
here is an idea i hope someone at KENIC can make use of :
presently it isnt possible to buy <my domain name>.ke (only <my domain>.co.ke ... or <my domain>.or.ke ...).
if KENIC allowed purchase of secondary TLDs i.e. <my domain name>.ke they could actually ask for higher prices for certain domain names :
e.g. --- http://mi.ke (i am sure there are many Mikes in the world willing to pay good money for that domain) --- http://clar.ke , http://broo.ke
apart from names there are english words ending with ke ... :
--- http://li.ke http://ba.ke (some bakery i guess ?) http://sna.ke
Here is a time article from 1999 (about the nation of tonga who marketed the .to tld ..... by 1999 they had sold 17,000 domains at $100 / 2years ... thats already 17 million dollars back in 1999 ...when the dollar was actually worth something )
<http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,26349,00.html> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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co.ke - Cocacola company perhaps? -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Phares Kariuki<pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
co.ke - Cocacola company perhaps?
No.... http://sniff.co.ke

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Ashok Hariharan<ashok@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Phares Kariuki<pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
co.ke - Cocacola company perhaps?
No.... http://sniff.co.ke
Or better still http://snort.co.ke

yeah, every time your client takes a sip of coke, they might remember your URL. and how comes the cyber squatters missed out on www.coke.co.ke 2009/8/28 Ashok Hariharan <ashok@parliaments.info>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Ashok Hariharan<ashok@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Phares Kariuki<pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
co.ke - Cocacola company perhaps?
No.... http://sniff.co.ke
Or better still http://snort.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Kioko<dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah, every time your client takes a sip of coke, they might remember your URL. and how comes the cyber squatters missed out on www.coke.co.ke
You've just alerted them, LOL! BR, S

what took them that long? 2009/8/28 Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Kioko<dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah, every time your client takes a sip of coke, they might remember
your
URL. and how comes the cyber squatters missed out on www.coke.co.ke
You've just alerted them, LOL!
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This is a very interesting one. Ive also wondered what made them chose to market .co.ke ? I like the .ke peke yake, as suggested above, its a strategic windfall, by the way, what would an africa domain extension be? On 8/28/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
what took them that long?
2009/8/28 Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Kioko<dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah, every time your client takes a sip of coke, they might remember
your
URL. and how comes the cyber squatters missed out on www.coke.co.ke
You've just alerted them, LOL!
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The facts raised here were already discussed at a past Kenic AGM. With the discussions and the current legislation, you might be able to apply and become a (.ke) 2nd Level Domain registry and compete with Kenic's .ke slds. The developments were earlier discussed in this list and should be somewhere in the archives. In the meantime all those interested should be working hard to raise some good cash to run a business of such magnitude. Chris_w. dabnix@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
This is a very interesting one. Ive also wondered what made them chose to market .co.ke ? I like the .ke peke yake, as suggested above, its a strategic windfall, by the way, what would an africa domain extension be?
On 8/28/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
what took them that long?
2009/8/28 Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Kioko<dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah, every time your client takes a sip of coke, they might remember
your
URL. and how comes the cyber squatters missed out on www.coke.co.ke
You've just alerted them, LOL!
BR, S _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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btw, from next year "The Best Internet Addresses Will Cost a Cool .Million" (US$$$) <http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/the-best-internet-addresses-will-cost-a-cool-million/> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Chris W.<dabnix@gmail.com> wrote:
The facts raised here were already discussed at a past Kenic AGM. With the discussions and the current legislation, you might be able to apply and become a (.ke) 2nd Level Domain registry and compete with Kenic's .ke slds. The developments were earlier discussed in this list and should be somewhere in the archives.
In the meantime all those interested should be working hard to raise some good cash to run a business of such magnitude.
Chris_w. dabnix@gmail.com

what kenic has done in choosing not to offer second level domain registrations to clients is not new neither without insight. the fastest growing cctld (germany .de) uses such flat model and allows it. united kingdoms .uk uses a model like ours however...advantage of which is you can be able to balance between revenue generation and building client confidence. united states the same. currently, .ac.ke is well regulated and you can be sure that all those websites with that domain are institutions of higher education. its not all about the money in this issues since the country has to determine whether you want to segment your internet identity to be a trusted "brand" or not. most of the countries that have offered their ccTLd like some form of gTLD are ussually small countries/islands whose populations cannot sustain its growth or those (especially) whose domain name is suitable like tavola (.tv), .me...etc. i think what we are missing out mostly on is the fact that kenyan population is large enough and with the internet boom that will come in the cominng years we should ensure that kenyans loose interest more and more on the gTLDs like the .com and opt for the .ke brand. that way, kenic is sure to gain more revenue and create a good identity trusted on the internet. this should be seriously considered especially alongside the brand kenya initiative. I would propose, among other things, creation of a .id.ke domain for those who want personal websites for their names since all that we currently have .co.ke, .or.ke, .ne.ke, .go.ke, .sc.ke don't fit the bill...and maybe get our celebs from going the .com way.
participants (8)
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Areba Collins
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Ashok Hariharan
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Chris W.
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Dennis Kioko
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Gakuru Alex
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kennedy waweru
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Phares Kariuki
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Steve Muchai