
Hello Skunks, A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate. My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?

I second this. . unlike throwing out all the rules we can have a thread discussing what to keep and what not and the admins can create a form of some sort to vote through. . and the voting be made mandatory such that you are not able to receive email without voting . . .. My thoughts. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
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Rules will never work for the simple reason that discussions will get bogged down on which rules to enforce, how to enforce them, and how often to update the rules. The issue could be relatively easily solved if skunks-ke was a web-based mailing-list with up/down voting features. Comments/threads which members didn't like would be down-voted to oblivion, and good stuff would be up-voted (Engadget, Slashdot and others do this to good effect). The advantage of this is that there would be no static rules in place, just a community dynamically downgrading/upgrading comments/threads they dislike/like. On the other hand, maybe skunks-ke is stuck with an email-only list in which case some sort of rules may be in order. But to be brutally honest: if you strip out OT and ads, what else is discussed on this list? Practically nothing. Then perhaps the focus should be on how to stimulate meaningful discuss (instead of only on how to exclude unwanted discussions). Saidi On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I second this. . unlike throwing out all the rules we can have a thread discussing what to keep and what not and the admins can create a form of some sort to vote through. . and the voting be made mandatory such that you are not able to receive email without voting . . ..
My thoughts.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
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There's OT then there's posting of grisly bloodied bodies from a bomb explosion. What possible benefit can be derived from such? There's no such thing as absolute freedom. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:35 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Rules will never work for the simple reason that discussions will get bogged down on which rules to enforce, how to enforce them, and how often to update the rules. The issue could be relatively easily solved if skunks-ke was a web-based mailing-list with up/down voting features. Comments/threads which members didn't like would be down-voted to oblivion, and good stuff would be up-voted (Engadget, Slashdot and others do this to good effect). The advantage of this is that there would be no static rules in place, just a community dynamically downgrading/upgrading comments/threads they dislike/like.
On the other hand, maybe skunks-ke is stuck with an email-only list in which case some sort of rules may be in order. But to be brutally honest: if you strip out OT and ads, what else is discussed on this list? Practically nothing. Then perhaps the focus should be on how to stimulate meaningful discuss (instead of only on how to exclude unwanted discussions). Saidi

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do. As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Hi all, At the end of the day I think what matters the most is that this is a tech(ish) community - besides tech issues (which generally tend to generate a reasonable amount of interest) I don't think that there's any harm done in people posting human interest (or personal interest) items that they would like to share. Are we worried about bandwidth/storage for unnecessary OTs? I think not..... Yes, sometimes the content is pretty far from being technologically oriented but does that mean that our community should not have somewhere to share/express? Nevertheless - at the end of the day, let the people decide.... B On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do.
As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it.
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On 16/07/2010, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
At the end of the day I think what matters the most is that this is a tech(ish) community - besides tech issues (which generally tend to generate a reasonable amount of interest) I don't think that there's any harm done in people posting human interest (or personal interest) items that they would like to share.
Are we worried about bandwidth/storage for unnecessary OTs? I think not.....
Yes, sometimes the content is pretty far from being technologically oriented but does that mean that our community should not have somewhere to share/express?
Nevertheless - at the end of the day, let the people decide....
B
Good people, In talking about regulations, there is a great need to know why it should be put in place in the first place. Regulation is done when there is a need to control the unnecessary stuff that tricle down the vein. It is also done on the basis of keeping specific interests from intermingling and giving birth some monster. Regulation works perfectly well of all the subscribers were driving the same car(i.e. focusing on the same thing altogether) but since we're a diverse community, this wopould not make any sense. I recall sometime ago, we said (though not through popular vote) that anybody who wanted to send an advert must have contribute to the purchase of our (emphasis here) server, and put the word 'Advert' on the subject line; any OT should clearly have OT, again on the subject line, even top posting, just to pick a few. (Correction me please) The idea here, IMHO was to accommodate as much diverse ideas as possible. But then, if we find people unsubscribing or becoming personal in -ve way, does that fall under our constituency? There are hilarious people who make SKW a home, yet there are those who are (ir)rational but still add value to the list. (All work and no play make Jack a dull boy!) Wasn't it time we looked at the rules and see how they can fit the local situation as well emerging events/issues at hand? My 2 cents!
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do.
As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it.
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@odhiambo i second that @Rad , maybe OT should be given scope of what it involves , but personal issues with people in the list shld be settled outside the list On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do.
As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it.
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The issue, atleast in my opinion is not OT as such but constructive OT. Saidimu raises valid issues : "On the other hand, maybe skunks-ke is stuck with an email-only list in which case some sort of rules may be in order. But to be brutally honest: if you strip out OT and ads, what else is discussed on this list? Practically nothing. Then perhaps the focus should be on how to stimulate meaningful discuss (instead of only on how to exclude unwanted discussions)." The list has basically become a place for advertising jobs and interesting links. What is so unique in that? Skunkworks was a very unique forum when I joined in that your mind would at the very least stimulated by ongoing discussions. Its not the case now and I think some structure would help bring this back. Just my thoughts. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, imelda <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@odhiambo i second that @Rad , maybe OT should be given scope of what it involves , but personal issues with people in the list shld be settled outside the list
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do.
As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it.
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one way would be to scan over the previous posts to determine where a poster potentially lies, OT, extremely OT or probably not relevant.:-) Any late night skunks out there? On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
The issue, atleast in my opinion is not OT as such but constructive OT.
Saidimu raises valid issues :
"On the other hand, maybe skunks-ke is stuck with an email-only list in which case some sort of rules may be in order. But to be brutally honest: if you strip out OT and ads, what else is discussed on this list? Practically nothing. Then perhaps the focus should be on how to stimulate meaningful discuss (instead of only on how to exclude unwanted discussions)."
The list has basically become a place for advertising jobs and interesting links. What is so unique in that? Skunkworks was a very unique forum when I joined in that your mind would at the very least stimulated by ongoing discussions. Its not the case now and I think some structure would help bring this back. Just my thoughts.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, imelda <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@odhiambo i second that @Rad , maybe OT should be given scope of what it involves , but personal issues with people in the list shld be settled outside the list
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do.
As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it.
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Any late night skunks out there? -OT On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:53 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
one way would be to scan over the previous posts to determine where a poster potentially lies, OT, extremely OT or probably not relevant.:-)
Any late night skunks out there?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
The issue, atleast in my opinion is not OT as such but constructive OT.
Saidimu raises valid issues :
"On the other hand, maybe skunks-ke is stuck with an email-only list in which case some sort of rules may be in order. But to be brutally honest: if you strip out OT and ads, what else is discussed on this list? Practically nothing. Then perhaps the focus should be on how to stimulate meaningful discuss (instead of only on how to exclude unwanted discussions)."
The list has basically become a place for advertising jobs and interesting links. What is so unique in that? Skunkworks was a very unique forum when I joined in that your mind would at the very least stimulated by ongoing discussions. Its not the case now and I think some structure would help bring this back. Just my thoughts.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM, imelda <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@odhiambo i second that @Rad , maybe OT should be given scope of what it involves , but personal issues with people in the list shld be settled outside the list
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Skunks,
A while back, the list administrators wanted to implement some rules regarding off topic items,job advertisements and flaming,among other things but upon protests from many on the list (myself included),they shelved the idea. However, watching what goes on on the list day in day out, I think its time skunkworks developed some sort of method to SELF regulate.
My proposal is that the list admins come up with a set of rules that they think will help mitigate the problems most rampant on this list.We as skunkworks can then vote on the rules and choose to keep a number of them. e.g the admins come up with ten rules and we vote to keep five that we deem to be most important. This is basically a call for us to acknowledge that this list is presumed to carry the best brains in the techie world in Kenya and we should thus hold ourselves to a higher standard than would be acceptable were this not the case. The list is becoming a joke if it isn't already one. We can stop the rot. What do skunks think?
Written rules never work in such forums, John Doe. That is my experience. It's like expecting everyone to think the same. It's simply not that easy to achieve, unless we make everyone undergo military training, then implement military code of conduct! These techies here wouldn't hear of that. Just delete whatever you feel is inappropriate for your consumption. That is what I do.
As Saidimu says, the things discussed in this list rarely border on what we'd all think is appropriate for it.
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participants (10)
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[ Brainiac ]
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Brian Munyao Longwe
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imelda
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John Doe
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Mark Mwangi
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Moses Katembu
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Odhiambo Washington
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Rad!
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saidimu apale
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Solomon Mburu Kamau