Even Safaricom these days thinks KIXP is non-existent!
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3 C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114 Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114] Trace complete. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists. Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow? Regard's Brian Ngure On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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I think we can easily fix this. Sent from my iPad On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN
Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address 41.81.20.209 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com [196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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Okay. In the same breath, would you be able to fix the routing of the 197.x.x.x towards 196.200.26.x, please?? On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 19:49, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we can easily fix this.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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I think this is problem is recent and serious! all this easter weekend i've been having timeouts while browsing local sites, yet sites outside .ke are loading normally.... On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Okay. In the same breath, would you be able to fix the routing of the 197.x.x.x towards 196.200.26.x, please??
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 19:49, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we can easily fix this.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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is this why YouTube buffers that much nowadays,or my fair usage policy become more fair for the operator. Is there any way of forcing YouTube to load form outside KE, ie bypass the local caches
I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago with some folk about the governance of KIXP. I made some recommendations about 8yrs ago regarding the setup of a structure that would allow for the unfettered growth and resilience of the exchange. It is sad that individuals at that time who wanted to control the exchange resisted these. Now, when we are faced with these, and other symptoms of the root cause, some of us can only shake our heads. (Yes, I am doing a lot of that lately) Pole kwetu, Mblayo On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>wrote:
I think this is problem is recent and serious! all this easter weekend i've been having timeouts while browsing local sites, yet sites outside .ke are loading normally....
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Okay. In the same breath, would you be able to fix the routing of the 197.x.x.x towards 196.200.26.x, please??
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 19:49, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we can easily fix this.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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@Brian, would you mind sharing these recommendations? It doesn't hurt to know :-) On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago with some folk about the governance of KIXP. I made some recommendations about 8yrs ago regarding the setup of a structure that would allow for the unfettered growth and resilience of the exchange. It is sad that individuals at that time who wanted to control the exchange resisted these. Now, when we are faced with these, and other symptoms of the root cause, some of us can only shake our heads. (Yes, I am doing a lot of that lately)
Pole kwetu,
Mblayo
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>wrote:
I think this is problem is recent and serious! all this easter weekend i've been having timeouts while browsing local sites, yet sites outside .ke are loading normally....
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Okay. In the same breath, would you be able to fix the routing of the 197.x.x.x towards 196.200.26.x, please??
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 19:49, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we can easily fix this.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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Well Peter, As mentioned, about 7 or 8 years ago, when I was still on the board of directors of TESPOK, I suggested a governance structure that gave KIXP independence from TESPOK, it's 'mother' institution. The main rationale here was to ensure that KIXP maintains a separate, independent existence, regardless of what happened to TESPOK. This was during a TESPOK strategy meeting where the key message was "The African ISP is dead, long live the African ISP" based on a paper by Russell Southwood of Balancing Act Africa. The essence of which was that with the onslaught of mobile operators going into internet access provision, the only way that ISPs would survive would be through consolidation via mergers/acquisition or a complete redefinition of business focus and strategy. What was evident to me (but seemingly not to others) was that as the ISP industry transformed, there would be fewer players, and thus, less democracy - especially with regards to governance issues. At the same time, KIXP was attracting plenty of interest from non-ISPs and already had non-ISP members such as KENIC, KRA and others - it was evident that the interest would continue, especially as the sector evolved with greater participation from content creators, hosting companies, data-centres etc... KIXP would become the de-facto facility for providing industry actors with data interconnection and interchange. For those of you unfamiliar with KIXP's history - we had to register a company KIXP Ltd, and file for an IXP license from CCK, in order to become operational after the forced closure of the IXP in 2000. My proposal was that KIXP be given full autonomy, have a board of directors appointed by members in full standing, and be run as a business, similar to LINX in the UK, and other successful IXPs around the world. As part of my proposals I shared the attached diagram (which I have just found in my archives). The Board would identify and appoint a CEO, who would then identify suitable staff to meet organisational growth. Being a business, some implied issues were self-sustainability, a business plan with clear growth, and social or financial returns for the 'shareholders'. My proposals fell upon deaf ears and it is sad for me now to see a frail and seemingly weak KIXP that cannot seem to consistently engage newcomers to the industry with the benefits of local traffic exchange. A simple question - how many of the TEAMs/SEACOM/EASSY bandwidth-holders are peering at KIXP? As mentioned by someone else, some of our traffic is being exchanged in exotic places like Mumbai, London etc... So, I continue shaking my head... Brian On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brian, would you mind sharing these recommendations? It doesn't hurt to know :-)
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago with some folk about the governance of KIXP. I made some recommendations about 8yrs ago regarding the setup of a structure that would allow for the unfettered growth and resilience of the exchange. It is sad that individuals at that time who wanted to control the exchange resisted these. Now, when we are faced with these, and other symptoms of the root cause, some of us can only shake our heads. (Yes, I am doing a lot of that lately)
Pole kwetu,
Mblayo
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>wrote:
I think this is problem is recent and serious! all this easter weekend i've been having timeouts while browsing local sites, yet sites outside .ke are loading normally....
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Okay. In the same breath, would you be able to fix the routing of the 197.x.x.x towards 196.200.26.x, please??
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 19:49, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we can easily fix this.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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Well surely im sure everyone gets that this is a technical issue yes? At least the one wash and the original post raised was a technical issue. Very few managers on kenyan isp's know what an ixp is to interfere with it. Sadly we have realised that of late (last eanog) some technical people don't. Most are new. Which makes it more serious because technical folk should 'get' kixp. We will/can fix this. Might take some time but education is easy. Policy, politics?, not so much. This technical lack of awareness we can fix. Most of the rest we leave to someone else. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 8 Apr 2012, at 19:47, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Well Peter,
As mentioned, about 7 or 8 years ago, when I was still on the board of directors of TESPOK, I suggested a governance structure that gave KIXP independence from TESPOK, it's 'mother' institution. The main rationale here was to ensure that KIXP maintains a separate, independent existence, regardless of what happened to TESPOK.
This was during a TESPOK strategy meeting where the key message was "The African ISP is dead, long live the African ISP" based on a paper by Russell Southwood of Balancing Act Africa. The essence of which was that with the onslaught of mobile operators going into internet access provision, the only way that ISPs would survive would be through consolidation via mergers/acquisition or a complete redefinition of business focus and strategy. What was evident to me (but seemingly not to others) was that as the ISP industry transformed, there would be fewer players, and thus, less democracy - especially with regards to governance issues.
At the same time, KIXP was attracting plenty of interest from non-ISPs and already had non-ISP members such as KENIC, KRA and others - it was evident that the interest would continue, especially as the sector evolved with greater participation from content creators, hosting companies, data-centres etc... KIXP would become the de-facto facility for providing industry actors with data interconnection and interchange.
For those of you unfamiliar with KIXP's history - we had to register a company KIXP Ltd, and file for an IXP license from CCK, in order to become operational after the forced closure of the IXP in 2000. My proposal was that KIXP be given full autonomy, have a board of directors appointed by members in full standing, and be run as a business, similar to LINX in the UK, and other successful IXPs around the world. As part of my proposals I shared the attached diagram (which I have just found in my archives). The Board would identify and appoint a CEO, who would then identify suitable staff to meet organisational growth. Being a business, some implied issues were self-sustainability, a business plan with clear growth, and social or financial returns for the 'shareholders'.
My proposals fell upon deaf ears and it is sad for me now to see a frail and seemingly weak KIXP that cannot seem to consistently engage newcomers to the industry with the benefits of local traffic exchange.
A simple question - how many of the TEAMs/SEACOM/EASSY bandwidth-holders are peering at KIXP? As mentioned by someone else, some of our traffic is being exchanged in exotic places like Mumbai, London etc...
So, I continue shaking my head...
Brian
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote: @Brian, would you mind sharing these recommendations? It doesn't hurt to know :-)
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote: I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago with some folk about the governance of KIXP. I made some recommendations about 8yrs ago regarding the setup of a structure that would allow for the unfettered growth and resilience of the exchange. It is sad that individuals at that time who wanted to control the exchange resisted these. Now, when we are faced with these, and other symptoms of the root cause, some of us can only shake our heads. (Yes, I am doing a lot of that lately)
Pole kwetu,
Mblayo
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote: I think this is problem is recent and serious! all this easter weekend i've been having timeouts while browsing local sites, yet sites outside .ke are loading normally....
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: Okay. In the same breath, would you be able to fix the routing of the 197.x.x.x towards 196.200.26.x, please??
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 19:49, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: I think we can easily fix this.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Apr 2012, at 18:41, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
I think I mentioned this some time ago. Kenyan ISPs don't know KIXP exists.
Or maybe they get more $$ by not using KIXP somehow?
Regard's
Brian Ngure
On 7 Apr 2012 14:14, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
WAN
Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address 41.81.20.209 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com [196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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Hi Wash,
From your trace, it seems AccessKenya are advertising "specific" IPs as highlighted, which will definitely be used to reach your destination. I doubt there's anything Safcom(*41.81.20.209) *can do about this.
13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com<http://tenge-2-1-bp_core01.accesskenya.com/>[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net<http://ix-4-1-1.core1.mlv-mumbai.as6453.net/> * [209.58.105.142]* <---------------- ./bernard On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
WAN Configuration Type Connection Type 3G/UMTS Login Status Connected Signal Status -40 DBm Connection Uptime 17:19:48 IP Address* 41.81.20.209 * Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Gateway 10.64.64.64 DNS 1 196.201.208.2 DNS 2 209.244.0.3 DNS 3
C:\Users\Washington>tracert 196.200.26.114
Tracing route to 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com [196.200.26.114] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms 2 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 66 ms 78 ms 68 ms 196.201.217.2 4 66 ms 78 ms 108 ms 196.201.217.3 5 107 ms 68 ms 78 ms 192.168.161.110 6 137 ms 229 ms 138 ms 192.168.128.134 7 108 ms 70 ms 77 ms 192.168.128.5 8 145 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.5 9 159 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.153.13 10 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms 192.168.128.77 11 158 ms 158 ms 148 ms if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.25] 12 98 ms 128 ms 168 ms 196.201.208.43 13 158 ms 148 ms 148 ms TenGE-2-1-BP_CORE01.accesskenya.com[196.207.31.146] 14 210 ms 217 ms 218 ms ix-4-1-1.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105.142] 15 1178 ms 196 ms 158 ms 196.200.26.114.accesskenya.com[196.200.26.114]
Trace complete.
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Brian Ngure -
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John Gitau -
Kinuthia Ngugi -
Odhiambo Washington -
Peter Karunyu